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I got this in yesterday's delivery...

the first of the British 1812 Artillery crew set releases...

a 3 figure set with more to come as I understand...

maybe coming out bi-monthly with the UC artillery crews...

I really like the shading on the pants...

I used the British 6 pounder from his French Indian War series...

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Michael:

These are great. Thanks for the update and photos...that is it; I am ordering these!

One trifling little observation regarding the gun (don't hate me for it)...by the Napoleonic period, British field guns almost exclusively had adopted William Congreve's block trail design (with the exception of very heavy guns, i.e., 24 pounders). So the gun is right for F&I or a captured French gun of this period, but not strictly correct as a light British Napoleonic field gun.
 
Scarlet Pimpernel said:
Michael:

These are great. Thanks for the update and photos...that is it; I am ordering these!

One trifling little observation regarding the gun (don't hate me for it)...by the Napoleonic period, British field guns almost exclusively had adopted William Congreve's block trail design (with the exception of very heavy guns, i.e., 24 pounders). So the gun is right for F&I or a captured French gun of this period, but not strictly correct as a light British Napoleonic field gun.
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Nicholas........yea........

I actually mentioned I was using a 6 pound artillery piece from the FIW in the first post...I guess I'm gonna have to break down and buy 8 more guns for an artillery battery I'm making....


sheeeeeeeesh...the cost of being accurate...hehehehe....:eek:
 
mikemiller1955 said:
I got this in yesterday's delivery...

the first of the British 1812 Artillery crew set releases...

a 3 figure set with more to come as I understand...

maybe coming out bi-monthly with the UC artillery crews...

I really like the shading on the pants...

I used the British 6 pounder from his French Indian War series...

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100_9677.jpg


100_9679.jpg


100_9675.jpg
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Nice additions to your 1812 collection Michael and nicely presented....Papa Zulu
 
Mike,

Is the artillery battery and dio you are planning American or British?

If an American battery, I think you can add whatever FIW 6-pounders you already have to the display and buy the new American 8-pounders to fill it out to total 8-guns. Both would be 2-tailed.

By 1812, the British guns would have the Congreve block trail design - a single baulk or (single tail). For an 8-gun British battery, in addition to John's 6-pounder, I would consider adding a few 9-pounders or 12-pounders from other manufacturers.
 
Fraxinus said:
Mike,

Is the artillery battery and dio you are planning American or British?

If an American battery, I think you can add whatever FIW 6-pounders you already have to the display and buy the new American 8-pounders to fill it out to total 8-guns. Both would be 2-tailed.

By 1812, the British guns would have the Congreve block trail design - a single baulk or (single tail). For an 8-gun British battery, in addition to John's 6-pounder, I would consider adding a few 9-pounders or 12-pounders from other manufacturers.
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The battery itself will be manned by the US side...these FIW 6 pounders would probably get me by...but I think I really need to buy 4 of the newer 6 pounders...I just called and left you a message...hope you're feeling okay.
 
That's a very nice JJD set acquisition Michael for your 1812 collection. I know you will have lots of fun with it. Nice photos of it also.
:) Mike
 
Mike,

The new American guns are the 8-pounders, so I think you need to buy those, not the new 6-pounders which are British guns. The advantage for you is that the 1812 8-pounders might work well for FIW.
 
Fraxinus said:
Mike,

The new American guns are the 8-pounders, so I think you need to buy those, not the new 6-pounders which are British guns. The advantage for you is that the 1812 8-pounders might work well for FIW.
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I see that now...for some reason I just assumed they were 6's also...I do see they are 8's now...
 
Osprey released the book Niagara in 2009 (or something like that title) It covers the Battle of Chippawa. I looked at in briefly, but did not buy it.

Anyone have any idea on the artillery units on each side? WHat size guns were used?
 
from Wikipedia...

Scott was already advancing from Street's Creek. His artillery (Captain Nathaniel Towson's company, with three 12-pounder guns) deployed on the portage road and opened fire. Riall's own guns (two light 24-pounder guns and a 5.5-inch howitzer) attempted to reply, but Towson's guns destroyed an ammunition wagon and put most of the British guns out of action.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chippawa
 
For the American gun, I had guessed from the show photos that it was a 12-pounder. JD labelled it as a 8-pounder (I was fine and happy). But I can't find any reference to American's using 8-pounders. The standard seems to be 6-pdrs and 12 pdrs.

Can anyone find a reference to American 8-pounders, especially at Chippawa?
 
He's talking about a wargame but this guy says................

http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/chippawa.htm


Unbrigaded:
Towson's Command, U.S. Artillery Corps
2 Medium Guns (6 pdr. & Biddle's 12 pdr.)
1 Howitzer (5.5 inch)
Ritchie's Command, U.S. Artillery Corps
1 Medium Guns (6 pdr.)
1 Howitzer (5.5 inch)
 
Could find that yet but...

Elting, John R. Amateurs to Arms:A military history of the war of 1812

"Captain Nathaniel Towson's company, with three 12-pounder guns"


6s and 12s will do it.
 
Michael:

I'm not sure what that reference means exactly..."two light 24-pound guns." Do they mean that they were set on field carriages, as 24-pound guns are idea for siege and might otherwise be set on siege carriages? In any case, I need to dig around, but it seems to me that a British regiment would typically be supported by 6 and 9 pounders and 5.5 howitzers, at least in the European engagments of this period. Anything larger would have been used typically only in siege, as in the siege of Badajoz (1811). I am no expert on the War of 1812, and I am not doubting the reference, but it does seem unusal. I will see if I can find another reference.

mikemiller1955 said:
from Wikipedia...

Scott was already advancing from Street's Creek. His artillery (Captain Nathaniel Towson's company, with three 12-pounder guns) deployed on the portage road and opened fire. Riall's own guns (two light 24-pounder guns and a 5.5-inch howitzer) attempted to reply, but Towson's guns destroyed an ammunition wagon and put most of the British guns out of action.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chippawa
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Nicholas...

it was just a small refernce fro the Wikipedia source to artillery at Chippewa that I hoped might help Ken...

I posted the link of the source...

I'm no expert on anything...except "cut and pasting"...:D
 
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