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I rarely weigh in on this for a variety of reasons, but I feel like things are sufficiently calm right now for me to say a few words without appearing to dive into a brawl. I began collecting toy soldiers at a very young age with a couple of cheap Britains ceremonial figures I found at a train show with my father. I later picked up a boxed set of ceremonials at Epcot, which is when I found the Club advertisement and purchased a membership in 2005 at age 10. I saw other manufactures online, but their figures didn't have that magical, delicate feel that Britains had. Maybe it was the tendency to use more outlines and shading, maybe it was the bulkier proportions, I couldn't tell you. That is around the time I attended my first show. Meeting Richard Walker and Ken Osen was what really hooked me into this hobby. They took the time to talk with 10-year-old me and treated me with as much respect as the old men who approached their table. They talked to me about my interests and about figure production and gave me tips on diorama building. They corresponded with me via email and even asked me to write an article for the Standard. Their generosity with time and treasure was deeply meaningful, and it brought me into this wonderful hobby that subsequently introduced me to many wonderful friends and mentors, including a dear friend and mentor who has been one of my greatest teachers and who I see as significantly responsible for my academic/professional success.

I also have a pretty good idea of how spiteful and petty the toy soldier world can be sometimes. From the military to my the Jewish community, I know quite a bit about group dynamics, and the toy soldier world rivals every group I have experienced for its inane drama. I speak with Ken and Ericka Osen on a somewhat regular basis, and from time to time I respectfully and constructively offer criticism. For example, while I know that many factors contribute to the rising prices, I also know that the margin system in the toy soldier world is deeply flawed and hurts both customers and dealers and will eventually come back to bite manufactures. I also know that Ken and Ericka are profoundly good, caring, and hard-working people. I have heard of Ken speaking harshly once, for good reason, and even in his hottest Detroit moment, his temper did not approach the malice that many people regularly display here. He and Ericka deeply care about the product they produce: its accuracy, its quality, its moral implications. They strive to constantly improve, not simply because they want to do justice tot he company's storied name, but because making quality goods is a matter of self respect and respect for history in their minds. For those who actually followed the saga of WBritain's numerous sales and the struggles it has faced in recent years, these delays are unfortunate but eminently relatable.

I have waited a lot longer than however long y'all have been waiting for the 88 for luxury products. It gives me great pleasure to support artists and craftspeople as well as small-scale, ethical business people, so I have waited years and years for things I did not need because I would prefer that such artists and craftsmen prioritize impatient people who will make their lives difficult than me, who has all the time in the world. Very few things give me greater joy than arraigning figures on a diorama I have just finished; it recalls my fondest memories of making model train layouts and dioramas with my late father. That said, I would melt my entire collection in a split second, well over 1000 figures, possibly significantly more, if it meant helping out one of the kind people I have met in this hobby.

Sandor Farkas
 
I rarely weigh in on this for a variety of reasons, but I feel like things are sufficiently calm right now for me to say a few words without appearing to dive into a brawl. I began collecting toy soldiers at a very young age with a couple of cheap Britains ceremonial figures I found at a train show with my father. I later picked up a boxed set of ceremonials at Epcot, which is when I found the Club advertisement and purchased a membership in 2005 at age 10. I saw other manufactures online, but their figures didn't have that magical, delicate feel that Britains had. Maybe it was the tendency to use more outlines and shading, maybe it was the bulkier proportions, I couldn't tell you. That is around the time I attended my first show. Meeting Richard Walker and Ken Osen was what really hooked me into this hobby. They took the time to talk with 10-year-old me and treated me with as much respect as the old men who approached their table. They talked to me about my interests and about figure production and gave me tips on diorama building. They corresponded with me via email and even asked me to write an article for the Standard. Their generosity with time and treasure was deeply meaningful, and it brought me into this wonderful hobby that subsequently introduced me to many wonderful friends and mentors, including a dear friend and mentor who has been one of my greatest teachers and who I see as significantly responsible for my academic/professional success.

I also have a pretty good idea of how spiteful and petty the toy soldier world can be sometimes. From the military to my the Jewish community, I know quite a bit about group dynamics, and the toy soldier world rivals every group I have experienced for its inane drama. I speak with Ken and Ericka Osen on a somewhat regular basis, and from time to time I respectfully and constructively offer criticism. For example, while I know that many factors contribute to the rising prices, I also know that the margin system in the toy soldier world is deeply flawed and hurts both customers and dealers and will eventually come back to bite manufactures. I also know that Ken and Ericka are profoundly good, caring, and hard-working people. I have heard of Ken speaking harshly once, for good reason, and even in his hottest Detroit moment, his temper did not approach the malice that many people regularly display here. He and Ericka deeply care about the product they produce: its accuracy, its quality, its moral implications. They strive to constantly improve, not simply because they want to do justice tot he company's storied name, but because making quality goods is a matter of self respect and respect for history in their minds. For those who actually followed the saga of WBritain's numerous sales and the struggles it has faced in recent years, these delays are unfortunate but eminently relatable.

I have waited a lot longer than however long y'all have been waiting for the 88 for luxury products. It gives me great pleasure to support artists and craftspeople as well as small-scale, ethical business people, so I have waited years and years for things I did not need because I would prefer that such artists and craftsmen prioritize impatient people who will make their lives difficult than me, who has all the time in the world. Very few things give me greater joy than arraigning figures on a diorama I have just finished; it recalls my fondest memories of making model train layouts and dioramas with my late father. That said, I would melt my entire collection in a split second, well over 1000 figures, possibly significantly more, if it meant helping out one of the kind people I have met in this hobby.

Sandor Farkas

Sandor,

Spoken like the gentleman I know you to be. People should remember that this is a hobby, not a need, and exercise patience. I can't speak to every collector's experience, but my experiences with Ken and Erika mirror Sandor's. They are terrific people, and I know that they are making every effort to see this 88 makes it to collectors.

I the words of Aaron Rogers, R-E-L-A-X, relax.

Louis
 
Many people feel your disappointment, it is the hope that gets to you. I have vented much on the 88mm, but it is the prime example of the way Britains has declined.

if you want an 88mm try Eagle Design, no figures but the gun is great, so much i bought 2, 1 winter and 1 in grey.

Thanks for the tip on the Eagle Design 88.

For now, I will continue to wait on the Britain’s version.
 
Hey now; speak for yourself....................:wink2:^&grin:salute::{sm4}
They're like drugs man, I see a new release and say I gotta have that, and I better be quick as they said they're limited in number. Sometimes I wonder just how limited are they really {sm4}
 
Many people feel your disappointment, it is the hope that gets to you. I have vented much on the 88mm, but it is the prime example of the way Britains has declined.

if you want an 88mm try Eagle Design, no figures but the gun is great, so much i bought 2, 1 winter and 1 in grey.


I see a few WW2 SS about to arrive but I wonder If we have seen the last of WB releasing large amounts of figures covering all eras as in the Bachmann days. Since the spilt WB are just a much smaller operation with a few people covering a lot of roles , I am not banking on a lot of Naps figures in the near future which is just as well given the price of the new FL Retreat from Russia mounted figures:) its a pity WB didn't do something along the lines of this fantastic range.
 
I see a few WW2 SS about to arrive but I wonder If we have seen the last of WB releasing large amounts of figures covering all eras as in the Bachmann days. Since the spilt WB are just a much smaller operation with a few people covering a lot of roles , I am not banking on a lot of Naps figures in the near future which is just as well given the price of the new FL Retreat from Russia mounted figures:) its a pity WB didn't do something along the lines of this fantastic range.

I am really interested in the new J Jenkins Wellington in India series that is on their thread at the minute, he did a fantastic job with the Aztecs and the Saxons/Vikings i think his new Wellington in India range is a must and fair enough is a little before the Napoleonic ranges but still a great idea.

Agree on the FL Retreat from Moscow, I bought the first 28 sets and they were brilliant, not the sledges, too expensive. However, sold them all over the last couple of years as the FL prices meant I'd have to sell a kidney to buy, but seriously, in my opinion there were better value for money figures than that range so drew a line through it and got rid via Evilbay and recycled the funds into JJ and TG.
 
A post on the Facebook William Britain Collectors Group page indicates the 88 has arrived and should be available on the website in a few days. Good news for those of us waiting for it, I'm in the UK so might have to wait a bit longer. Positive news though 👍
 
A post on the Facebook William Britain Collectors Group page indicates the 88 has arrived and should be available on the website in a few days. Good news for those of us waiting for it, I'm in the UK so might have to wait a bit longer. Positive news though 👍

Agree good news, some collectors could get before the holidays and i am sure there will be loads of great forum posts.
 
I took this photo at the Dec 2018 London show, so there's at least one and hopefully more on the way soon!

Jeff

Well it took two years from when I took this, but hopefully worth the wait for those who need it. {sm3}

Jeff
 

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I am really interested in the new J Jenkins Wellington in India series that is on their thread at the minute, he did a fantastic job with the Aztecs and the Saxons/Vikings i think his new Wellington in India range is a must and fair enough is a little before the Napoleonic ranges but still a great idea.

Agree on the FL Retreat from Moscow, I bought the first 28 sets and they were brilliant, not the sledges, too expensive. However, sold them all over the last couple of years as the FL prices meant I'd have to sell a kidney to buy, but seriously, in my opinion there were better value for money figures than that range so drew a line through it and got rid via Evilbay and recycled the funds into JJ and TG.
Thanks for the J Jenkins tip I will look out of that , I've overlooked J Jenkins and t Gunn in the past as I've been very loyal to WB over the years and missed out on some great releases from these manufactures . Thats changed now as first the collectors club no shows then the complete lack of releases has got me buying elsewhere.

Ive got the sledges both are in a class of their own but as you say FL in the UK are too expensive (Why wasn't the UK included in the sale) and restrict what I can afford. I should follow your lead and sell off some of my WBs as I have box loads of un displayed figures ,however there resale prices don't look great.
 
A post on the Facebook William Britain Collectors Group page indicates the 88 has arrived and should be available on the website in a few days. Good news for those of us waiting for it, I'm in the UK so might have to wait a bit longer. Positive news though 👍

So the Navy Seals recovered the shipment from the Somali pirates? That's excellent news!:rolleyes:
 
The 88mm gun along with a number of other new items are now available through W. Britain, your hosts here at the forum or from your W. Britain dealer of choice.

So there you go.
 
Order confirmed via Ted of 19 new figures/sets (88 included) and 7 restocks of diorama items and 1 figure.
One they arrive, they will hit the Recent Releases on our site!
If they have not shipped to us by today, I would venture to guess these won't arrive until next week. Even though I appreciate FedEx delivering on the weekends, I would prefer they take this weekend off! :eek:

Julie
 
I ordered the 88mm gun today from Britains today. I'm excited to add it to my collection.

I tried to use my '20 Collector's Club Voucher but it didn't take (I ordered the gun anyway). I sent them a note. We'll see what happens. Not a huge deal but $15 is $15.
 

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