A new PANTHER and tank riders. (2 Viewers)

[DM101]

The green is accurate too. Sorry, couldn't resist.:salute::

WS076 was a great classic set, but definitely shows its age. The sculpt is lacking a lot of detail compared to recent AFVs. What I'd like to see K&C do is an updated WS072. Basically the exact same configuration of WS072, just with the detail of the current tanks and the paint colors of the Jagdpanther/Panzer IV. That Panther would have been a homerun. Call it WS072SL2014

This set if done in the likes of WS072 would definitely cost more than $300 in today's terms :salute::

It has 2 half height crews 1 full height crew and a chest height radio operator not to mentioned the 4 accessories wheels attached {sm4}

 

[PanzerAce1944]

All hatches opened, has side armor and stuffed with tank crews and spare wheels.... I totally agree :salute::

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I like this Panther Myself ! Has a nice add on crew.

 

[uksubs]

Look like Kc got the idea from a Dragon model kit:wink2:

 

[Desertkiwi]

All hatches opened, has side armor and stuffed with tank crews and spare wheels.... I totally agree :salute::

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This was my first K&C tank purchase many moons ago and it sits pride of place in my meagre collection. Sure it's showing it's age a wee bit, but it's still an awesome model and the crew set it apart. The wonderful 4x man tank rider set of a similar vintage, also fit really well with it in my opinion.

Thanks for posting such a great pic of a K&C classic. {bravo}}

 

[Hunter Rose]

Look like Kc got the idea from a Dragon model kit:wink2:View attachment 151333

And that's the problem. Model kits are notorious for having box art with inaccurate colors especially for German tanks. When K&C charges $215+ for a tank, you think their research would be more Than just grabbing model box art and saying "make this". There are numerous threads on this forum that show examples of what German colors actually look like. To me it's inexcusable, and just plain lazy. There's no way I'm paying that much money for this model with such an inaccurate paint job.

 

[Sentaapua]

I`m certainly getting the Panther. I think I will not pick the tank riders because they seem too early war, and would`t fit properly in a Normandy display… Any thoughts?

 

[AIDMAN]

Shame..!! Nice tank, but what an awfull shade of green. I must admit i have the Jagdtiger which is also painted in the same green but this seems to me to be a wasted opportunity, This tank just screams out for an Ambush camo scheme!!, then i would have added it to my collection. Guess i will just have to make do with
the earlyer WS-072 Normandy Panther......No problem!!!!!!!!.



Steve

 

[uksubs]

Shame..!! Nice tank, but what an awfull shade of green. I must admit i have the Jagdtiger which is also painted in the same green but this seems to me to be a wasted opportunity, This tank just screams out for an Ambush camo scheme!!, then i would have added it to my collection. Guess i will just have to make do with
the earlyer WS-072 Normandy Panther......No problem!!!!!!!!.



Steve

Steve I like it that KC have done something different paint job wise to be honest but poor track detail will stop me from buying one I'm sorry to say

 

[Normandy1944]

O Boy o boys!

I love the new Panther Ausf G that's for sure!
But This is the first one of two Panther Ausf "G" models to be released ... a second will be available later in the year.

And that's the problem.
Is the second one a white' winter camouflage or maybe the beautiful Ambush pattern camouflage??
like this model>>>>>



Hope Andy can tell us what the second one will be?
Because the money tap is only open for a Panther Ausf G

So please Andy saved us from This drinking cup!!

Harrie^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse

 

[katana]

All the major players have now done respectable models of the late war (September 1944) Panther G. The tank riders are in early war uniforms and will not be accurate with this model Panther. Battle of the Bulge figures would be accurate. I feel the need to do a comprehensive comparitive review of the Panther G models from K&C, Collectors Showcase and Figarti. Anyone wish to guess into what order they will fall i.e. 1, 2 and 3? I find it amazing how many times a particular vehicle is introduced by one manufacturer only to be followed in rapid sucession by the other manufacturers. Originality and innovation seem to be obsolete as virtues in todays world! Regards

 

[Bombon]

Hopefully next time we'll get the late war Panther F

 

[Guy]

The Panther looks nice but that green color they chose is horrendous!

The green from the recent Jagdpanther and Panzer IV H was much more historically accurate. Why the switch back to this pastel green color on the Panther and recent Hanomag? Makes no sense. The dunkelgelb looks OK but the green is horrible. Same problem on Jagdtiger.

Hopefully they will release a winter version, as this summer one loses me on the paint job.

Late G's basic colour was "Olivgrun". In December 1944 a late war protocol called for an olivgrun base coat for all parts prior to delivery to the assembly plants where the dunkelgelb disruptive camo was applied
guy

 

[Guy]

Good points made ! If any part was needed and would properly fit, it was used ! Features such as this make the model stand out and give it its own distinction. To me for a late war Panther having a mixed road wheel or two thrown in is another example of thinking outside of the box for K&C. Nice group of German Infantry without bases =Versatility ^&grin
The Germans with the helmet covers look like they are straight out of a "Stalingrad" street battle !

There was 1 Panther factory ( can't remember if it was HNM or Daimler) that had a surplus of Tiger steel wheels . These wheels were used on the Panthers that left the factory ( rubber was in very short supply in 1944-45) The mixture of wheels in this model could well be a factory fitment. There are lots of picture examples on a German reference site called "Panther44"
guy

 

[Hunter Rose]

Late G's basic colour was "Olivgrun". In December 1944 a late war protocol called for an olivgrun base coat for all parts prior to delivery to the assembly plants where the dunkelgelb disruptive camo was applied
guy

No argument on the above.

But that green color as pictured on the Panther is not Olivegrun. It appears the same pastel green used on the Jagdtiger and recent Normandy Hanomag.

The green on the Jagdpanther and Panzer IV is an excellent rendition of Olivgrun. K&C needs to go back to using that color green.

 

[uksubs]

Originally Posted by PanzerAce1944
To me for a late war Panther having a mixed road wheel or two thrown in is another example of thinking outside of the box for K&C.
Don't think it is KC thinking out of the box mate more like KC getting Dragon 1/35 scale panther tank and copying it that all :wink2::salute::

 

[wayne556517]

Originally Posted by PanzerAce1944
To me for a late war Panther having a mixed road wheel or two thrown in is another example of thinking outside of the box for K&C.


Don't think it is KC thinking out of the box mate more like KC getting Dragon 1/35 scale panther tank and copying it that all :wink2::salute::

And IF they did mate i don't think there the only ones who do that.

 

[uksubs]

And IF they did mate i don't think there the only ones who do that.

Your correct there mate :salute::

 

[wwiibuff]

One word about the olivgrun choice here by K&C. On a late war Panther G it is very possible that the coloring could have been diluted by the crew to a lighter shade of green than normal. Thus this color by K&C is very possible and to suggest that it's not is unfair. It's ok to say that it's not one's preference, but to insist that it wasn't possible is not correct IMO.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

One word about the olivgrun choice here by K&C. On a late war Panther G it is very possible that the coloring could have been diluted by the crew to a lighter shade of green than normal. Thus this color by K&C is very possible and to suggest that it's not is unfair. It's ok to say that it's not one's preference, but to insist that it wasn't possible is not correct IMO.

In September 1944, the Panthers were not given a base coat of Dunklegelb but instead, the camouflage colours were sparingly applied in patches at the factory leaving a lot of the tank showing red oxide primer. October 31, 1944 the Panthers were coated only with red oxide primer with the camouflage colours applied sparingly in the field which could mean very watered down camo paint and large variations in colour were likely.

The steel wheels are better documented than field painting. In September 1944, M.A.N. used steel wheels in the last track position in the assembly of 33 Panthers Fgst.Nr. (chassis numbers) 121032 - 121055 and again in March/April 1945 for an unknown number of Panthers

Terry

 

[Jack]

All the major players have now done respectable models of the late war (September 1944) Panther G. The tank riders are in early war uniforms and will not be accurate with this model Panther. Battle of the Bulge figures would be accurate. I feel the need to do a comprehensive comparitive review of the Panther G models from K&C, Collectors Showcase and Figarti. Anyone wish to guess into what order they will fall i.e. 1, 2 and 3? I find it amazing how many times a particular vehicle is introduced by one manufacturer only to be followed in rapid sucession by the other manufacturers. Originality and innovation seem to be obsolete as virtues in todays world! Regards

That is quite interesting. I wonder how long it takes to move from 'let's do a Panther' to it hitting the shelves. It must be many months surely? I wonder if its more of a case of there being a perceived market opportunity that two or more manufacturers recognise and one is just quicker than the others. Perhaps having spent money on the research and development the others hold their version back a few months and then release it and rely on their collector base to do the rest. I have no idea of whether this is the case ... just a contribution to the discussion.