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Or aka K&C side by side comparison. There is a size difference in person. In the picture not so noticeable .{sm4}{sm4}{sm4} More pictures to follow showing detail and some figures next to them.
 
Not a bad looking Winter Tiger by Collectors Showcase....Very Impressive.....Looks to be very well done.......Nicely weathered.......Need more photos to show the size differences and ratio to figure sizes.
 
Vezzolf said:
Not a bad looking Winter Tiger by Collectors Showcase....Very Impressive.....Looks to be very well done.......Nicely weathered.......Need more photos to show the size differences and ratio to figure sizes.
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Vampire thanks for the pics.......I am all over this......

They are both well done, but the TCS Tiger is the best match for the main stream 1/30th figures ( Figarti, K&C, TGM )

TGM / TCS is probably the absolute best match.


If you want to get technical TCS new larger size has rendered most other vehicles useless, if you want proper proportion in main stream 1/30th AFV's .

Once you see the proper proportion you will see how excellent it looks, I ran all of this by my 89 year old father and he noticed the difference when I showed him various comparisons.


BUT........... I am having success with some Figarti, K&C & TGM AFV's with FL

Actually I am going downstairs now and try my FL Germans with the K&C Tiger.


We have not done any scenes with the proper matchups yet, but they are coming. Alex
 
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Actually both companies need to go to weathering school as none of them are really up to snuff. Both companies have pluses and minuses. The TCS Tiger which is mine and on display will get the full KV treatment in the next month or two depending on a couple of scenarios that are coming into play. Their is another comparison shot coming.
 
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Actually both companies need to go to weathering school as none of them are really up to snuff. Both companies have pluses and minuses. The TCS Tiger which is mine and on display will get the full KV treatment in the next month or two depending on a couple of scenarios that are coming into play. Their is another comparison shot coming.
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Could you do a thread and show some of your KV Treatments......I am going to work them over myself. Alex
 
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Firebat said:
Could you do a thread and show some of your KV Treatments......I am going to work them over myself. Alex
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What and give all my secrets away?????? Alex I am sure yours are going to be wonderful. Hope to see them soon. It maybe awhile before I get to mine. Should be another interesting thread coming soon though.
 
kilted vampire said:
What and give all my secrets away?????? Alex I am sure yours are going to be wonderful. Hope to see them soon. It maybe awhile before I get to mine. Should be another interesting thread coming soon though.
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I just want to see the finished product......No.... you cant be giving away those secrets :wink2:


I am doing a TCS King Tiger Now, just having a problem with some research for the senario I want to place it in. Alex
 
The TCS looks way to clean for my liking i wish companies would offer highly weathered,weathered and clean,yeah i know impossible but just a thought nice shots KV thanks for posting them.
 
Firebat said:
I just want to see the finished product......No.... you cant be giving away those secrets :wink2:


I am doing a TCS King Tiger Now, just having a problem with some research for the senario I want to place it in. Alex
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Oh all right then. I do show progress though.
 
KV...

Nice dio sets.
Mitch


I cannot see where the compatibility comes from at any angle it dwarfs the K&C version like the last wittmann version did as they are the same size? one is overly large and one is nigh enough spot on 1/30th scale give or take a mm or so. The CS is also incorrectly painted among a few things for the version it depicts. The weathering is rather poor and in that part there are just streak lines for what is supposed to be weathering.

Asthetically, it looks ok at first glance but, not on scrutiny for more than longer than the glance I mentioned. K&C's is the choice of the two although, its not free from error its a better model and the weathering is better.

That's my opinion of it as a collector and painter

Alex....

Why you continue to state ''mainstream'' 1/30th is confusing the CS tiger fits with the larger figures because its not 1/30th just like CS figures and K&C are not 1/30th so, they are a similar size. the use of mainstream just adds to the confusion of a topic that really is not confusing at all.
Mitch
 
It's really nice to see the two tigers side-by-side. While the CS tiger is larger, I must say that I like the details of the CS, esp. the back section. Thanks for sharing side-by-side shots. I really like the winter diorama as well. That PAK 40 looks awesome in the snow scene.
 
Kilted Vampire,

The SdKfz 222 in the background looks very nice. It appears to be the Normandy version. Do you know if that is correct?

The CS Tiger will go well next to my CS Winter Tiger (few historical errors aside). I like the commander figure. He appears very well done.
 
If I didn't see it discussed previously, please excuse my question, but how would you compare the quality between the tanks?
 
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If I didn't see it discussed previously, please excuse my question, but how would you compare the quality between the tanks?
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That is a tough question, because you are going to get a lot of different answers. As was mentioned neither is perfect, but both are nice.

I dont think any manufacturer has bad quality at this point.

I am making my choice totally due to size. I have a formula that is working very well for me..... TGM figures with TCS vehicles.


Mitch

Mainstream Figures (Size) IMO are K&C, Figarti and TGM which are more or less in the ballpark with each other..........not Conte, FL, TCS or Britains due to their varied ( Some big some small ) size / scale.

I dont see the confusion, it is clear as a bell to me and where I was confused for a while I now have things sorted out.

It is taking a lot of mixing and matching, but I have developed formulas that are working well for me.

Yes I know what I stated above even has other variables, but I think you get the idea.
 
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The CS Winter Tiger will work much better in terms of size/ scale with CS, K/C and TG figures and maybe Figarti.....Not with FL....Also I prefer the Style of the CS Tiger....it seems to have better weathering, tracks, and detail....Seems that more can also be done with the CS version to customize/paint it to the desired style then the K/C version....Also I prefer the traditional stowage bin in the rear of the turret.
 
Alex...

Maybe its the continuing use of 1/30th which causes the confusion when actually much of it is not 1/30th no matter how much its dressed up as being covered by that scale.

I would not have placed Figarti in the same bracket as K&C and TG myself. Your formula as you state surprises me TCS armour with TG figures. Considering that K&C are practically the same as TG to many collectors eye you could easily say that TCS armour works well with them and, then you could throw in Figarti.

I am not sure its an exact science as you mention some of Britain's and TCS figures being different sizes but, you can equally say that about K&C look at their bulge figures which, are some of the biggest figures they make in their WWII. I have heard lots about Britain's recently for me, they really don't do enough WWII for me to come into the equation (though what they have done is very good)

I still don't think trying to change the size of AFV's will solve any issues that are discussed the Tigers here is a prime example
Mitch

Firebat said:
That is a tough question, because you are going to get a lot of different answers. As was mentioned neither is perfect, but both are nice.

I dont think any manufacturer has bad quality at this point.

I am making my choice totally due to size. I have a formula that is working very well for me..... TGM figures with TCS vehicles.


Mitch

Mainstream Figures (Size) IMO are K&C, Figarti and TGM which are more or less in the ballpark with each other..........not Conte, FL, TCS or Britains due to their varied ( Some big some small ) size / scale.

I dont see the confusion, it is clear as a bell to me and where I was confused for a while I now have things sorted out.

It is taking a lot of mixing and matching, but I have developed formulas that are working well for me.

Yes I know what I stated above even has other variables, but I think you get the idea.
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This thread was started for comparison of two products.

As I stated you will get many answers regarding preference either way.

Disregarding paint, quality, detail etc. there is only one definite statement that can be made..... The TCS Tiger is much larger.

So I am going with the definite....... I am advising those who are confused, that the TCS Tiger ( For those of you who are interested in Figure to AFV proportion) is the best match for those who like K&C, Figarti and TGM figures.

I am going one step further to say the figures I choose to use are TGM. I cant go any further than that, because I would then have to state my reasons.

That cant be done on this forum because it will start a fight.

I also want to find matchups for my FL figures, that is a bit more complex, I am finding matchups here and there, but that is another topic. Alex
 
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Hunter Rose said:
Kilted Vampire,

The SdKfz 222 in the background looks very nice. It appears to be the Normandy version. Do you know if that is correct?

The CS Tiger will go well next to my CS Winter Tiger (few historical errors aside). I like the commander figure. He appears very well done.
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Believe it or not that is the "winter" version! I am glad you guys like these. I have a new winter diorama on commission to start soon. I will use it for a few shots in the future.

In regards the size I would like a Tiger not a Tiger cub. It is a great looking tank and that is the most important thing to me. It fits in well with what I have. It will get the full treatment perhaps sooner rather than later. It just looks massive even by itself. This could be in part due to the fenders giving it a broader stance. It is only a bit taller than the K&C version.
 
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