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Rob

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Guys,

Am looking for some advice re painting Revell /Airfix aircraft. I'm looking for a colour of paint I could use for the wings/ walked upon areas where paint has been worn away. Would any of you be able to offer any advice as to which colour to use for this? Any advice would be really most gratefully received.

Also apologies if I do not reply for a day or two, please do not think me rude but with the new policy I am having to count every post and am running short before policy starts.

Again thanks in advance guys

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Rob
 
My suggestion is that you have people email or pm you while we have to live with this absurd and a-s-sinine policy, unless pms are also limite as well :rolleyes2:
 
Rob...

If you are wanting the metal effect showing through Vallejo do colours like oily steel and gunmeta grey which, is vey effective either before as an undercoat to areas you want weathered or, after wards as detail for chips etc on top of the colour. I have used both on AFV's and on aircraft and it works very well
Mitch
 
Rob, you would be best to use an aluminum type color for such wear.
 
Hi, Rob, there are 2 general methods to show paint chipping or wear. One is to lay down the natural metal color first, then the top color, and then remove the top color to simulate wear. The other is to lay down the top color and then apply the metallic color to simulate wear.

If you choose to lay down the metallic paint first, then there are a couple of different ways to remove it. One is to chip carefully with the tip of a knife blade and reproduce chipping and scuffing. You can also use a nylon scrubbing pad (3M, for example) or even steel wool (which requires a delicate touch).

Another method is called the salt technique. After laying down the metal color, apply water with a brush to the areas to be worn, then use large-grain salt (sea salt or kosher salt is good), let the salt crystals dry in place, then paint the top color. When the top color has dried, go back and remove the salt crystals. This will leave a pattern that simulates flaking paint. It's a popular technique among builders of WWII Japanese aircraft models, because it can be used to simulate the large patches of paint that flaked off the IJA's aircraft.

I've used it myself, but decided that it was too much effort for the result. Here are some shots of a Monogram Zero that I built and weathered:

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If you look at the areas towards the trailing edge of the wings, you can see smaller flecks of silver, which were created using the salt technique. Unfortunately, I had only table salt on hand, and what I had to do, because the crystals were so small that they dissolved, was to add water drop by drop to a pile of salt and make a paste, which I applied in a second pass over the metal color, using a toothpick to position the paste where I wanted it. I still didn't get the result I wanted, so I wound up taking a Prismacolor silver ink pen and applyin the ink over the top color, and spreading it with a toothpick and a brush. Here is the result on the fuselage:

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That brings me to the second method, applying the top color and then applying the metal color for wear. In this case, we use the drybrush technique to apply the metal color gradually to the surface, picking up the relief areas and building up color. Here is P-39Q in 1/48 by Eduard, on which I used drybrushing to reproduce the wear on the non-skid walkways along the wing roots:

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On the real aircraft, this walkway consisted of a piece of material almost like an asphalt shingle, coated with grid to give traction. But constant walking would wear through this, right down to the bare metal skin underneath. To drybrush, I use an old brush with a straight chisel tip. I dip the brush in the paint (I usually use Tamiya Flat Aluminum), then I drag the brush across a piece of paper towel, till I've removed most of the paint. Then I apply the paint to the model, using the same kind of dragging motion, just touching the surface. The point is to have the brush catch the higher areas of relief, like panel lines, rivet/fastener heads, or to apply very little paint in an area, like a panel, and gradually build it up till it looks like the higher point on the real thing, that would be likely to be stepped on/brushed up against or otherwise rubbed, removing the paint.

I hope that helps give you an idea of how to reproduce this look.

Prost!
Brad
 
Guys, can I thank you all for going to the trouble of offering me your help, its very much appreciated. I now have a wealth of colour's and techniques to choose from. Brad can I also thank you for going to the trouble of explaining how you go about things step by step, I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. Congratulations on the fine paint jobs you've done here.^&cool The rock salt technique is fascinating.

I now have several paint colours to choose from from both Vallejo and Humbrol, gradually getting together all the supplies and materials I need for my next project, I always enjoy this ' hunter gatherer ' stage!^&grin

Thanks again guys

Rob
 
You're very welcome, Rob, I'm glad to share anything I've learned with you. I look forward to seeing some photos of your models when you've finished!

I've got a number of classic Revell and Airfix 1/72 kits in my stash; they're fun to build. And Airfix' new releases and re-toolings of their classic subjects are some very nice kits indeed.

Prost!
Brad
 
Rob...

Adding to what has been said you can also use the hairspray technique. Any hairspray will do that your good lady may use will do. use it in the same manner as the salt technique applying it to a m odel surface and then paint over it allow to dry and remove the paint how you like. I have not used this on my repaints in this hobby and, now there are specific products that give that effect from Mig. Personally, I still prefer alcohol solution the best paint the surface allow to dry and add a small amount of the solution and remove with a stipple brush or, similar or, even a sponge to create great effects. I use this all the time when doing winter repaints etc
Mitch
 

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