Ambush at Apache Wells (1 Viewer)

[TomNT]

I'm a bit each way on the figure bases topic. I don't like lying down or prone position figures (firing a rifle, machine gun etc) and kneeling position figures with fixed bases. They are totally unnecessary in my opinion, as they don't support figures in this position (especially the prone position) and it detracts from the presentation of the figure. If it's possible to not have bases without them toppling over then I would be happy to see more standing baseless figures. Removable bases as suggested by Wayne is a good option but I''m still happy to see some standing figures with fixed bases.

Tom

 

[waynepoo]

I'm a bit each way on the figure bases topic. I don't like lying down or prone position figures (firing a rifle, machine gun etc) and kneeling position figures with fixed bases. They are totally unnecessary in my opinion, as they don't support figures in this position (especially the prone position) and it detracts from the presentation of the figure. If it's possible to not have bases without them toppling over then I would be happy to see more standing baseless figures. Removable bases as suggested by Wayne is a good option but I''m still happy to see some standing figures with fixed bases.

Tom

I am saying give the collector the option, someone in a factory has to attach the bases, if the bases are provided unattached ( the figure would still have the pins ) then the collector has the extra option to do either...has to be cheaper and has the advantage of an extra marketing tool for the makers a win, win as they say. Having been involved in creating some large scale dioramas figures with without the bases would've allowed more creativity as well as saved much work and time...no doubt about it.

 

[OzDigger]

I am saying give the collector the option, someone in a factory has to attach the bases, if the bases are provided unattached ( the figure would still have the pins ) then the collector has the extra option to do either...has to be cheaper and has the advantage of an extra marketing tool for the makers a win, win as they say. Having been involved in creating some large scale dioramas figures with without the bases would've allowed more creativity as well as saved much work and time...no doubt about it.

Not a bad idea, I wonder if Andy would consider that option.

 

[marco55]

The base option has been talked about for many years on many threads.
Mark

 

[OzDigger]

And will for many years on, have no doubt

 

[waynepoo]

Not a bad idea, I wonder if Andy would consider that option.

I did raise the question with him last Brisbane dinner and he did hear me out, fair enough to, but what he did say was the brand on the underside of the bases was important to K&C, a fair point. What I believe whenever I raise this issue is most think I am saying is get rid of the bases all together, not so, just provide them unattached so the buyer then can then decide to do as he pleases.

 

[TomNT]

I am saying give the collector the option, someone in a factory has to attach the bases, if the bases are provided unattached ( the figure would still have the pins ) then the collector has the extra option to do either...has to be cheaper and has the advantage of an extra marketing tool for the makers a win, win as they say. Having been involved in creating some large scale dioramas figures with without the bases would've allowed more creativity as well as saved much work and time...no doubt about it.

Yes, figures coming with unattached bases is a good option although Robin does raise a good point in saying that it can be hard to match up the bases to the figures, especially if K&C followed CS's lead and released all standing figures with removable bases. You could potentially have hundreds of figures over a period of time with removable bases and unless you are good at cataloging your collection, you'll be spending time matching the bases to each figure if you have separated them for display and/or diorama purposes. Still, it's a good idea and having that option is certainly worthwhile.

Tom

 

[waynepoo]

Yes, figures coming with unattached bases is a good option although Robin does raise a good point in saying that it can be hard to match up the bases to the figures, especially if K&C followed CS's lead and released all standing figures with removable bases. You could potentially have hundreds of figures over a period of time with removable bases and unless you are good at cataloging your collection, you'll be spending time matching the bases to each figure if you have separated them for display and/or diorama purposes. Still, it's a good idea and having that option is certainly worthwhile.

Tom

A minor issue, simply put a sticker on bottom of the base and number it...........::wink2: it's what we did at the college and the figures stood in sand for two years and we had no issues when we removed them.

 

[Jack]

A minor issue, simply put a sticker on bottom of the base and number it...........::wink2: it's what we did at the college and the figures stood in sand for two years and we had no issues when we removed them.

Apart from figuring out who owned them!

 

[waynepoo]

Apart from figuring out who owned them!

Hey, that happens when someone uses the same coloured stickers or none at all...............:rolleyes2:

 

[marco55]

Keep the base in the box it came in.If the did come unattached to the figure I'm sure there would be a slot cut in the foam for it.
Mark

 

[Baymax]

I hope they continue with bases.

 

[jazzeum]

It's possible that separate bases could be a cost factor; that's a question for Andy to answer.

As far as identifying one base from the other, this can be solved by putting the set number on the underside of the base. First Legion does this and I find it helpful.

 

[villagehorse]

People are blown away at all the TS shows I attend when they handle figures for the first time with the weight aspect. I place them in their hand and watch their expression as they realise they have something substantial, no doubt the bases play a role here. It certainly does for me. Something about value for money, if it's heavy it must be worth more, whether true or false remains to be seen. Robin.

 

[Desertkiwi]

People are blown away at all the TS shows I attend when they handle figures for the first time with the weight aspect. I place them in their hand and watch their expression as they realise they have something substantial, no doubt the bases play a role here. It certainly does for me. Something about value for money, if it's heavy it must be worth more, whether true or false remains to be seen. Robin.

Like you Robin, I love weighty figures and AV's too, there's something quite special about the heaviness of an item which seems to suggest greater value......not sure why?

 

[waynepoo]

People are blown away at all the TS shows I attend when they handle figures for the first time with the weight aspect. I place them in their hand and watch their expression as they realise they have something substantial, no doubt the bases play a role here. It certainly does for me. Something about value for money, if it's heavy it must be worth more, whether true or false remains to be seen. Robin.

Never advocated getting rid of the bases, just giving collectors the option to use their figures to better effect in dioramas if they wish, everyone wins as I see it, you still have the bases just attach them if you wish or not, how hard can that be? I understand the weight thing, but for me..honestly how many collectors walk around carrying their figures all day! The value for money equals the sculpt and painting for me not weight. Just give people the choice..... best of both worlds.
Wayne.

 

[TomNT]

Never advocated getting rid of the bases, just giving collectors the option to use their figures to better effect in dioramas if they wish, everyone wins as I see it, you still have the bases just attach them if you wish or not, how hard can that be? I understand the weight thing, but for me..honestly how many collectors walk around carrying their figures all day! The value for money equals the sculpt and painting for me not weight. Just give people the choice..... best of both worlds.
Wayne.

The other side of the coin Wayne is that many collectors would not want to have to attach the bases to figures. They want to buy a figure complete and not have to attach or even glue it in if they never want to use it in a dio. You and me and many others do want to use our figures in dio's but many collectors will never do that and only display there figures in a display case. Just my thoughts and again, I would like baseless figures where possible.

Tom

 

[marco55]

It's not that hard to glue or pin a couple of feet to a base.Hell even I can do that.{eek3}^&grin
Mark

 

[TomNT]

It's not that hard to glue or pin a couple of feet to a base.Hell even I can do that.{eek3}^&grin
Mark

Yeah, me to but many collectors may not want to do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against removable bases but I can see many collectors wanting figures without the hassle of gluing bases.

Tom

 

[Baymax]

I would certainly not buy figures with removable bases. I have broken figures in accidents and the pins they are on would not be enough to allow them to stand and would need additional engineering from companies which would add to cost. These are display items and most people will show them on cabinets, shelves desks not in diorama or ''display'' settings so bases and sturdy bases are vital even a removable base would see accidental knocking over increase and damage occur to expensive figures.

I guess weight is a mental issue because I find heavy items incur greater shipping costs are harder to display shelves needing extra support and cabinets being worried when multiples are displayed. I would like to see weight reduced for some king and country items like tanks they have with guns and I hope they change further. all the other companies jjd, tcsand fl release lighter tanks