I was definately turned off to all the neg stuff that was going on. I would just check in time to time, to see what was going on. I truly believe this fourm has the best and sometimes the worst discussions on the topics. The Moderators do a good job keeping the threads from explodeing. We all need to think out what we are typeing, I found how you say something, and what you really mean, get lost by someone who is passinate about that subject. I think Pat Wade is an excellent Moderator, and did a great job of stopping the ACW thread.