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mikemiller1955 said:
Al...

it's hard to believe that 21 liars have jumped on the gravy train...I gotta believe there is some truth to this story in the numbers of the woman that are stepping up...

I'm just amazed that so many never said anything before...21 women were "roofied" and didn't speak up...that baffles me...^&confuse

is/was Bill Cosby that powerful or did hush money keep this under the covers?
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Michael, the only thing that makes sense to me is money. Cosby had to make it worth their while to keep their mouths shut. Like I said earlier, 21 people is too many to pass off as liars just after publicity. Shame and embarrassment must play their part in a cover-up like this, but it only takes one leak to burst the dam. Maybe no charges will ever be placed and no trial ever take place, so he will never be proved to be guilty, but this is either one massive and well organized conspiracy against him or St. Peter is going to have some hard questions to be answered. -- Al
 
I'm playing the Devil's Advocate.Yes I can believe 21 women jumped on the bandwagon thinking they will get money maybe not from Cosby but from selling their stories to the media.Ask the police how many people confess murdering someone but haven't.I'm not saying that Cosby didn't mess with them but it's odd that all these women were in positions to be taken advantage of.They want their 15 minutes of fame if that's what you want to call it.:rolleyes2::rolleyes:
Mark
 
Really Brad.In this celebrity obsessed culture of ours you don't think 21 women out of 150 million would like for money and or fame?You ever seen groupies how they go wild just to be with a name.I'm not saying he didn't have relations with them but something don't ring right with this.My favorite was the one bawling like a baby caused he reached over and grabbed her right breast...in 1973!Gimme a break.I've known women who have been groped and they've slapped the guy (no it wasn't me:)or cussed them and were mad as hell but wasn't traumatized for 41 years.Oh yeah and right next to her was a lawyer ready to try to get her piece of the pie.
Mark
 
To understand why some of the victims in these sort of cases do not come forward it's worth considering the case that dominated the news in this country for months a while back. Jimmy Saville was a hugely popular DJ/TV personality in the 70's/80's. He was seen as an eccentric type of character always dressed in track suits, sporting huge cigars and dripping in gold he raised some 40 million pounds for charity with his work for hospitals and schools (places he frequented up and down the country- his status as a celebrity and fund raiser was such that these places not only welcomed him but gave him rooms for his own personal use) which included numerous marathons. There were rumours and accusations of abuse aimed at him during his life but they never came to anything. After his death hundreds of people came forward and the nation learned that according to Police he may have been one Britain's most prolific sexual offenders. Allegations were so shocking that they even included women and children abused in hospital beds, or as they came out of surgery or even in comas. Little wonder then that some of the hundreds of people who came forward after his death said the same thing, that it was Jimmy Saville they were talking about, this beloved tv personality who raised millions for kids hospitals and who had streets and coastal paths named after him......who would have believed them ?

Rob
 
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I remember when that happened Rob and you bring up a very good point but the Cosby thing just doesn't add up.There's something screwy here.
Mark
 
Toy Soldier Brigade said:
No charges will ever be filed unless someone comes forward to report an incident that occurred with in the last six years. The statute of limitations has long passed on the other cases.
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And that's my point. I'm skeptical that there's any real substance to any of these charges, or someone, at least one, should have been able to go to the police and press charges. The story becomes increasingly far-fetched. Network and production company employees are now alleged to have known about Cosby's alleged sexual assaults. It stretched the imagination to think that not one of any of them would have gone to the police.

This takes on the characteristic of conspiracy theories, that for the premise to be true, a large number of people have to have remained silent. That's usually where a conspiracy theory falls apart, and that quality--that so many people may have been involved but said and did nothing, makes me skeptical of these accusations.

I think a question that no one has asked is, why now? Why, all of a sudden, if Cosby was a life-long predator, are these stories coming out now? It seems to me that that should be Journalism 101.

Prost!
Brad
 
I still believe that this in entirely possible. It reminds me of the Catholic Priest Scandal. How many of them turned out to be "Life Long Predators" Very similar situations. Abused by a powerful figure in there lives. Hushed with with money. Victims in the mind set that who will believe me over this person that everyone loves and respects. One of the women in the Cosby cases did come forward years ago after here daughter confronted Cosby and claimed she was his daughter.
 
When all is said and done, and being the skeptic pessimist I am, I think the old phrase 'Where there is smoke, there is fire', fits like a glove. -- Al
 
Justice delayed is justice denied is a reality that works both ways. Making complaints to the media thirty years after the event is always something I find a bit hard to take. What makes me very guarded in any sympathy for Cosby is the lack of a public statement of innocence. If I was accused in this manner I would be in front of a camera ten seconds later declaring my total innocence, calling the women out as liars and starting to sue everyone ... you know ... the way Lance Armstrong did when they picked on him unjustly ... oh ...wait ... what was my point again?

Stilll, though, Cosby's response looks worse than the accusations.
 
Jack said:
Justice delayed is justice denied is a reality that works both ways. Making complaints to the media thirty years after the event is always something I find a bit hard to take. What makes me very guarded in any sympathy for Cosby is the lack of a public statement of innocence. If I was accused in this manner I would be in front of a camera ten seconds later declaring my total innocence, calling the women out as liars and starting to sue everyone ... you know ... the way Lance Armstrong did when they picked on him unjustly ... oh ...wait ... what was my point again?

Stilll, though, Cosby's response looks worse than the accusations.
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He's certainly got legal counsel, and I can imagine that his lawyers are advising or even controlling his public statements, with an eye to avoiding prejudicing any subsequent action, whether in the form of charges filed by someone against Cosby, or in the form of retaliation from Cosby.
 
theBaron said:
He's certainly got legal counsel, and I can imagine that his lawyers are advising or even controlling his public statements, with an eye to avoiding prejudicing any subsequent action, whether in the form of charges filed by someone against Cosby, or in the form of retaliation from Cosby.
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I read that his team of lawyers is planning to divert the blame to "Weird Harold"

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Rob said:
To understand why some of the victims in these sort of cases do not come forward it's worth considering the case that dominated the news in this country for months a while back. Jimmy Saville was a hugely popular DJ/TV personality in the 70's/80's. He was seen as an eccentric type of character always dressed in track suits, sporting huge cigars and dripping in gold he raised some 40 million pounds for charity with his work for hospitals and schools (places he frequented up and down the country- his status as a celebrity and fund raiser was such that these places not only welcomed him but gave him rooms for his own personal use) which included numerous marathons. There were rumours and accusations of abuse aimed at him during his life but they never came to anything. After his death hundreds of people came forward and the nation learned that according to Police he may have been one Britain's most prolific sexual offenders. Allegations were so shocking that they even included women and children abused in hospital beds, or as they came out of surgery or even in comas. Little wonder then that some of the hundreds of people who came forward after his death said the same thing, that it was Jimmy Saville they were talking about, this beloved tv personality who raised millions for kids hospitals and who had streets and coastal paths named after him......who would have believed them ?

Rob
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Obviously I can understand why the victims thought they wouldn't be believe. It's the celebrities who now say they new there was a problem that rile me!

Martin
 
I'm more concerned about the woman shot and killed by an illegal who had been deported five times.
A totally innocent woman on a family outing died.

Cosby was a known womanizer. His victims shouldn't be surprised.

However both should be castrated.
 
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