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Hi Jeff - I'm really indulging myself - and learning what works as I go along. Glad you have liked one or two. How about this one then?

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I have wanted to take a picture of all of my pipers for quite a while. So, I gathered them up - with their Drum Majors out in front - and took this pic in front of well, need I tell you? Is it the "Mecca" for the World's pipers?

Edinburgh Castle.

On Parade are: Scots Guards, Argyle & Sutherlands, Black Watch, Gordon Highlanders, London Scottish and the Gurkhas. My lonely Seaforth Highlander is at the rear (must do something about that - and get him some chums!)

Johnnybach:salute::
 
Hello Trooper and/or Martin.

Could you please do me a big favour?

Could you please cast your eyes over this sketch that I have done and see what you think - as I have run into a possible slight problem.

Explanation: As you know, I have been working - with help and advice from yourselves - towards producing a Military Band of the Gordons circa 1871, in the last year that they would have been wearing the true white kilmarnock jackets which was changed to red in 1873. After 1855 (or '56 single breasted) the Kilmarnock jacket came in. In 1868 the cuffs were changed from French design - to the Gauntlet Cuff for Scottish Regiments.

Unfortunately, Simkin didn't draw or paint any of these Tunic jackets after 1864 - so all his illustrations show the French Cuff.

What I have tried to do, therefore, in my drawing below, is to put these cuffs on the 1864 jacket - to see whether they look right. I think that they do. Alternatively I could go with the plainer red-pointed cuffs that he (Simkin) shows on the Drill Jacket - which of course don't have the four kilmarnock flaps. I want my musicians in Review Order - which uses those four flap kilmarnock jackets - and so - therefore - the gauntlet cuffs.

Hope this makes sense so far - and what do you think to the uniform below??

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards johnnybach


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johnnybach said:
Hi Jeff - I'm really indulging myself - and learning what works as I go along. Glad you have liked one or two. How about this one then?

MassedPipers.jpg


I have wanted to take a picture of all of my pipers for quite a while. So, I gathered them up - with their Drum Majors out in front - and took this pic in front of well, need I tell you? Is it the "Mecca" for the World's pipers?

Edinburgh Castle.

On Parade are: Scots Guards, Argyle & Sutherlands, Black Watch, Gordon Highlanders, London Scottish and the Gurkhas. My lonely Seaforth Highlander is at the rear (must do something about that - and get him some chums!)

Johnnybach:salute::
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Another very good one Johnny! ^&cool This forum is a bit addictive as I expect your wife is finding out! ^&grin

Jeff :salute::
 
Hi Scott I have always believed that a picture saves a thousand words - so when trying to explain something complicated like this - it seems the easiest way to do it. I used to do water-colour tinted pen-and-ink sketches (buildings mostly - they don't move about!). But since starting to paint castings - I haven't pursued it.

i used to do nice churches - which people always seem to like. jb
 
Hi Johnny, I attach an illustration of the white jacket as worn prior to the introduction of the gauntlet cuff. Basically I think the later figure would have conformed to this in all details apart from the cuff. The jacket would not have had the red lace down the sleeve and the tassels on the sporran would have been black, not red. Not sure about the facing colour on the collar, I have been under the impression it was usually red. Trooper
 

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Hi trooper; - Thanks for your thoughts - and illustration of Rosshire Buff. Please see attachment below for one that I have of the Gordons.

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The one from this page to look at is "h". He is a Gordon's musician in 1864 - as drawn by Simkin. You can see that his facing colour is yellow edged with red piping on collar, epaulettes and cuffs, (the latter of course being the old French style - as it's 1864). His sporran has 5 red tassels - as he is a bandsman, and this is one of their distinctions at this time.

My thinking in producing my drawing was that when they adopted the gauntlet cuff in 1868, they would have retained all of the features of the old uniform - and just changed the cuff (which I can't find a picture of o the white jacket!). So, I reasoned, the colours of the old cuff - including the yellow facing colour would be retained, with perhaps the band's red piping in the button slashes of the new gauntlet cuff.

If I can't get any confirmation though, I will bring the date of my whole group forward to 1864 - and then go with the French cuff for every piece - as I think that most of the castings I have ordered have plain arms anyway - and I can just paint on any cuff detail that I want. I would certainly be on safer ground there - as I have your original picture of the band for details (including the old cuff) - and this illustration (above) for the colours.

I believe this plain arm will apply to most of the castings I've ordered - with the exception of one or two pieces. Those, I can alter by filing back the cuff - and painting to match the others.

So, I suppose it boils down to choosing my date - one of which I am certain is correct (1864) and the other which is "iffy".

Do you know - this discussion has worked - I think I will go with 1864 - after all! French cuffs it is!

Thanks yet again - it helps to talk things through. johnnybach
 
Trooper - forgot to add one more point - note that on my Gordons musician - Simkin HAS painted in a red lace strip on the arm holding the instrument. jb
 
I thought that this might prove to be a good picture - by putting my Royal Marine Colour Party and Band in front of a photo of Ark Royal.

As she is about to be scrapped - and the new one to replace her won't be ready for another ten years or so, ( Good example of forward planning there then!) - it will possibly be my last chance to see another like it!!

I'll try and find a Harrier for my next example of "forward planning". johnnybach

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johnnybach said:
I thought that this might prove to be a good picture - by putting my Royal Marine Colour Party and Band in front of a photo of Ark Royal.

As she is about to be scrapped - and the new one to replace her won't be ready for another ten years or so, ( Good example of forward planning there then!) - it will possibly be my last chance to see another like it!!

I'll try and find a Harrier for my next example of "forward planning". johnnybach

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Ah!...you can almost smell the sea and what's that? Fish 'n' Chips! ^&grin

:salute:::salute::

Jeff
 
Excellent set of figures and great backdrop to make them look even better than they are
Mitch
 
Hi Jeff & Mitch - broke my own "rule" then - by not telling who the Royal Marine figures were from. They are Asset of course, supplied as castings.

A particularly nice touch with these, is the side drummer with bugle at the side - or one with two sticks held onto the drum, whilst he plays the bugle. You also get a choice as to which rifle to use, so can fit them in with different time-periods - as the uniform hasn't changed too much. Lovely to paint too - though sadly, no-one eating fish and chips, Jeff (you would go and say that - can't get them here - and as soon as you think it - you want it!).

Anyhow - glad you liked it - with Ark Royal saying farewell. johnnybach:salute::
 
Continuing with the "mean and moody" theme - are this small Colour party of RAF Regiment personnel - along with my only female forces representative to date - marching at the rear. Asset once again - I have left these as matte finish, for once, as I think it shows the uniform better. Same thing applies to weapon choice here - so can fit in with most dates - I chose SLR's - to fit the plane.

Behind, a Harrier jump-jet takes off - yet another piece of kit to bid a fond farewell to. :confused:

Now where are the Falklands again?

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Definately my favourite sets that you have painted and posted to date. Superb stuff
Mitch
 
Thanks Mitch - and I know that I have shown these before - but with a bit of thought as to waht is going on behind - they take on a different look.

This one below, is of the Colour Party and Drum & Pipe Band of the London Scottish Regiment, circa 1990. The bridge behind for anyone interested in buying it is "Tower Bridge" - and NOT London Bridge. I'm sure it's up for grabs - as almost everything else appears to be in the UK now ( pssst wanna by a forest Johnny?)

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These are more from Asset - one of my favourite providers of castings - I chose SA80's for the escorts for this group - right at the back.
 
Hi Scott,

To be honest ( that's a familiar Welsh phrase - which actually means - yes, obviously) - I think that there needs to be more exposure of what really appeals to collectors, makers - well, you name it - whatever we are ! Let's all have a LOOK at what we enjoy with this hobby. TOY SOLDIERS.

If you can't see them - then - you don't know about them. I have found literally dozens of items that I would like to have - just by joining this forum - and learning how to show them. Perhaps because of where I have come from - I have found stuff that others don't know about too.

Please --- SHARE! You all have knowledge about the hobby.

Please - 'cos I want to know:-

IF you like something - please tell us - better yet - SHOW us. Then we can make informed choices about what we want to buy.

Here endeth MY impassioned plea . BUT HEY! they're only toy soldiers - okay?

johnnybach%^V
 
I agree with you one 100% jb. Until you joined I don't believe anyone has posted Asset figures except those from the show reports. For some reason there are quite a few memebers with (for whatever reason and unwillingness to share). Such a shame really as we could have some good discussions about the many different makers.

Mostly the forum is swayed by matt figures but in the collecting world I don't know how accurate that is though.
 
Hi Scott - Ah! - I see. Well I promise you one thing - as long as I am a member - I'll give an honest appraisal - and VIEW - of what I obtain and produce from what I like doing - and now I have learned (sort of) how to show them - I'll do that too - which is - producing a finished toy soldier from castings - just for the fun of it.

Honest Injun! okay? johnnybach.:salute::
 
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