Christchurch Earthquake's 2nd Anniversary Today (1 Viewer)

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On this day back in 2011, a 6.3 magnitude quake struck our third largest city, Christchurch, killing 185 people, injuring hundreds more and damaging huge parts of the city. many of the victims were students and visitors from overseas. The quake itself is classed as an after-shock and a result of the 7.1 quake that hit in September 2010.

The cities doing it tough with over 1300 buildings demolished so far and large tracks of land within the city limits considered too unstable to build on.

My thoughts today are with those still living there and those who have come far and wide from around the globe, to help with the rebuild...:salute::

Not trying to sound too sombre........ but it's a timely reminder of how nasty nature can really be and puts into perspective whats really important in life.

Thinking of ya Christchurch on this special day!
 
Good thread Toddy, people should remember what Mother Nature can do as a cyclone wiped out Darwin in 1974 (Cyclone Tracy) and it took many years for the city to recover and rebuild.

The poor buggers In Christchurch are still doing it tough and I can only imagine what it would be like to live in a city or anywhere for that matter where you don’t know when or how big the next quake will be!

Tom
 
Good thread Toddy, people should remember what Mother Nature can do as a cyclone wiped out Darwin in 1974 (Cyclone Tracy) and it took many years for the city to recover and rebuild.

The poor buggers In Christchurch are still doing it tough and I can only imagine what it would be like to live in a city or anywhere for that matter where you don’t know when or how big the next quake will be!

Tom

Cheers Tom, for those kind words mate, yes it was an emotional day for many. Most countries seem to get hit with some type of 'curve ball' from mother nature.....heck look at you guys over there, if it's not flaming fire storms, it's a deluge from above.......

Funny you mention Cyclone Tracy, I was only a knee high to a grasshopper when that nasty hit and yet I still remember the black & white TV footage.

It was also really nice to see ChCH residents show their appreciation for the emergency services that attended, both from locally and abroad, particularly the USAR teams that came from everywhere and the 200 Aussie cops that were flown over to help out.....awesome stuff....:salute::
 
On this day back in 2011, a 6.3 magnitude quake struck our third largest city, Christchurch, killing 185 people, injuring hundreds more and damaging huge parts of the city. many of the victims were students and visitors from overseas. The quake itself is classed as an after-shock and a result of the 7.1 quake that hit in September 2010.

The cities doing it tough with over 1300 buildings demolished so far and large tracks of land within the city limits considered too unstable to build on.

My thoughts today are with those still living there and those who have come far and wide from around the globe, to help with the rebuild...:salute::

Not trying to sound too sombre........ but it's a timely reminder of how nasty nature can really be and puts into perspective whats really important in life.

Thinking of ya Christchurch on this special day!

I'm thinking of them too - especially my daughter and her husband and my two Grandchildren - who still live there in a patched up house ( she actually calls it "The Shed" now - 'cos the plywood temporary frame has replaced the brick outer skin of the house which fell off. Apparently - she has been the unfortunate victim in an internal argument between her insurers and the "Earthquake Commision" on who pays to repair it!

Bottom line is - two years on - they appear to be still arguing - and the bricks remain off. So................in addition to living through two winters in what is really a large plywood clad shed - they are still suffering from "Beauracracy at work" ( or not at work actually - laying bricks^&grin).

She tells me that there are STILL some folks though - who don't even have a shed - and are still living rough and homeless! My thoughts and best wishes are with them all - except the bureaucrats and the insurers - who deserve an almighty boot in the right place! johnnybach
 
I'm thinking of them too - especially my daughter and her husband and my two Grandchildren - who still live there in a patched up house ( she actually calls it "The Shed" now - 'cos the plywood temporary frame has replaced the brick outer skin of the house which fell off. Apparently - she has been the unfortunate victim in an internal argument between her insurers and the "Earthquake Commision" on who pays to repair it!

Bottom line is - two years on - they appear to be still arguing - and the bricks remain off. So................in addition to living through two winters in what is really a large plywood clad shed - they are still suffering from "Beauracracy at work" ( or not at work actually - laying bricks^&grin).

She tells me that there are STILL some folks though - who don't even have a shed - and are still living rough and homeless! My thoughts and best wishes are with them all - except the bureaucrats and the insurers - who deserve an almighty boot in the right place! johnnybach

Yeah it's really sad.....as you're probably aware Johnny, the situation with your daughter & her family is not unusal in ChCh. Many residents feel trapped, due to financial problems associated with insurance payouts and lenghty arguments with beauracrats over whether your property should be bulldozed or repaired, plus the cost of rental properties has skyrocketed to the extreme.

It's not just a question of walking away, when your only asset is your house and the powers at be can't make up their minds what to pay you......as you say it's been two very long years and it snows in ChCh during the winter and can get very cold.

On the positive side, things are progressing and the rebuild is in full swing, but they're still years away from getting it back to anything what it used to be.
 
Mate you do realize NZ was once connected to Australia mate and it was a earthquake that sent you mob adrift..................^&grin
Na dinkum mate was a sad day for our Bro,s across the ditch just a pity the All blacks weren't in a training camp.............{eek3} :wink2: ^&grin.
Sad day mate but the ANZAC spirit was strong that day.
 
Yeah it's really sad.....as you're probably aware Johnny, the situation with your daughter & her family is not unusal in ChCh. Many residents feel trapped, due to financial problems associated with insurance payouts and lenghty arguments with beauracrats over whether your property should be bulldozed or repaired, plus the cost of rental properties has skyrocketed to the extreme.

It's not just a question of walking away, when your only asset is your house and the powers at be can't make up their minds what to pay you......as you say it's been two very long years and it snows in ChCh during the winter and can get very cold.

On the positive side, things are progressing and the rebuild is in full swing, but they're still years away from getting it back to anything what it used to be.

All makes for a very stressfull situation, similar but not the same issues in Queensland regarding rebuilding of homes damaged by flood. The main difference is you never know if further earthquakes are likely, but you can guarantee your house will be flooded if is has in the recent past.
 
It must be truelly frustrating for the people caught in the middle of an arguement between mindless beauracrats and heartless insurance companies (which imo are no more than legalized thieves). It is my socialist tendencies that dictate that the Government should impose the peoples will on the insurance companies and force them to pay up regardless of any fine print rubbish, but that would be too easy and right and like most Governments they are probabily as incompetent as ours.
Wayne.
 
Yeah it's really sad.....as you're probably aware Johnny, the situation with your daughter & her family is not unusal in ChCh. Many residents feel trapped, due to financial problems associated with insurance payouts and lenghty arguments with beauracrats over whether your property should be bulldozed or repaired, plus the cost of rental properties has skyrocketed to the extreme.

It's not just a question of walking away, when your only asset is your house and the powers at be can't make up their minds what to pay you......as you say it's been two very long years and it snows in ChCh during the winter and can get very cold.

On the positive side, things are progressing and the rebuild is in full swing, but they're still years away from getting it back to anything what it used to be.

I have been there since the big one ( even experienced a couple of aftershocks myself) - and seen first-hand what is going on with repairs - both the temporary ones and completed. I think that the main thing that strikes me - is the complete arbitrariness of how it's being done. Where my daughter and family live, you can see fully restored houses now - standing next to properties that will have to be demolished ( Red Stickered), and those that are repairable - but will cost a lot to fix. I keep in contact with my family by skype every week - and get updates regularly on developments ( usually - nothing ) for the last two years.

The decisions were mostly made within six months - which houses were repairable - and which weren't - and then the fun and games began - with those whose houses were to be fixed first began. Looks to me from afar, that the easiest fixes were done first ( Government then claims credit in the "numbers fixed game"). The credibility of the assesors and builders - and where contracts have been awarded has also been highly contentious in local newspapers.

Bits of work have been done on their house - ( like re-connecting sewerage pipes - which were broken). Temporary wood cladding was put on - which NOW looks like it will have to be replaced AGAIN - because of the length of time it's been on - and the temp fix has deteriorated over two winters. And all because of the bickering between the EQ Commision and Insurers over who pays for what. ( Note that this changes from time to time - as my daughter used to make regular phone calls to check on progress of their case. They have learned not to bother anymore - as they speak to different people each time - who give them contradictory information - and then "the runaround").

The whole thing has not been handled well at all, in my opinion. People who complain get nowhere - because there is nowhere else to go with their complaints about delay. Even letters to the Newspa[pers go unanswered and unpublished - there's just too many of them. I will just remind folks that 730 days and nights have passed since the big earthquake came - and there is still not one brick stood upon another in their house. The kids have decorated the "temporary" plywood outer walls with chalk drawings - and newspaper is stuffed in the cracks. Interestingly, you can check on the kids language developing - as their spelling and drawing improve over time!;)

But they are among the luckier ones - they have a roof! I saw people living ( if you can call it that), in the sand-dunes near Brighton Pier - and that was a year on - it is now two! I sincerely hope it is fixed by next year - as I intend to visit again - hopefully to help decorate a plastered brick walls.

It is a scandal - no more - and no less - and no doubt about it. Some of the people involved in the decision-making in Government organisations and private insurance companies - who gladly took ( and continue to take) the premiums should be heartily ashamed of their performance - or in my daughter';s case - lack of it!. The phrase " Couldn't run a knees-up in a brewery" come to mind here.

I should sign off as "Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells"^&grin - but I'll stick to johnnybach. Don't forget the story folks - you never know - it could be your turn next - as Our Aussie friends mention. And thanks to all for thinking about them - by the way. jb
 
I have been there since the big one ( even experienced a couple of aftershocks myself) - and seen first-hand what is going on with repairs - both the temporary ones and completed. I think that the main thing that strikes me - is the complete arbitrariness of how it's being done. Where my daughter and family live, you can see fully restored houses now - standing next to properties that will have to be demolished ( Red Stickered), and those that are repairable - but will cost a lot to fix. I keep in contact with my family by skype every week - and get updates regularly on developments ( usually - nothing ) for the last two years.

The decisions were mostly made within six months - which houses were repairable - and which weren't - and then the fun and games began - with those whose houses were to be fixed first began. Looks to me from afar, that the easiest fixes were done first ( Government then claims credit in the "numbers fixed game"). The credibility of the assesors and builders - and where contracts have been awarded has also been highly contentious in local newspapers.

Bits of work have been done on their house - ( like re-connecting sewerage pipes - which were broken). Temporary wood cladding was put on - which NOW looks like it will have to be replaced AGAIN - because of the length of time it's been on - and the temp fix has deteriorated over two winters. And all because of the bickering between the EQ Commision and Insurers over who pays for what. ( Note that this changes from time to time - as my daughter used to make regular phone calls to check on progress of their case. They have learned not to bother anymore - as they speak to different people each time - who give them contradictory information - and then "the runaround").

The whole thing has not been handled well at all, in my opinion. People who complain get nowhere - because there is nowhere else to go with their complaints about delay. Even letters to the Newspa[pers go unanswered and unpublished - there's just too many of them. I will just remind folks that 730 days and nights have passed since the big earthquake came - and there is still not one brick stood upon another in their house. The kids have decorated the "temporary" plywood outer walls with chalk drawings - and newspaper is stuffed in the cracks. Interestingly, you can check on the kids language developing - as their spelling and drawing improve over time!;)

But they are among the luckier ones - they have a roof! I saw people living ( if you can call it that), in the sand-dunes near Brighton Pier - and that was a year on - it is now two! I sincerely hope it is fixed by next year - as I intend to visit again - hopefully to help decorate a plastered brick walls.

It is a scandal - no more - and no less - and no doubt about it. Some of the people involved in the decision-making in Government organisations and private insurance companies - who gladly took ( and continue to take) the premiums should be heartily ashamed of their performance - or in my daughter';s case - lack of it!. The phrase " Couldn't run a knees-up in a brewery" come to mind here.

I should sign off as "Disgusted, Tunbridge Wells"^&grin - but I'll stick to johnnybach. Don't forget the story folks - you never know - it could be your turn next - as Our Aussie friends mention. And thanks to all for thinking about them - by the way. jb

Johnny, I think you've hit the nail on the head when it comes to the bureaucrats & insurance companies dragging the chain, quite frankly they need a kick up the backside. Both groups especially the Government are very good at putting positive spin on everything, but when you've got folks still living in 'red stickered' houses or in the 'red-zone' after two years something is very wrong.

Unfortunately you'd like to think the media would do more about this, but it appears they have grown tired of the subject and it doesn't sell newspapers like it did.

To be fair though, rebuilding the city is a massive undertaking and one that stretches the imagination at times and in a strange sort of way has brought the cities residents closer together, even businesses seem to help each other out a lot more and as one journalist put it, 'there's a much greater spirit of collaboration' in the city now.

It must be pretty special seeing the kids grow up through their drawings and you must be looking forward to catching up with them all again soon. Hopefully, fingers crossed the insurer's etc would have finally got off their hands by then.......?

Cheers Toddy
 
Johnny, I think you've hit the nail on the head when it comes to the bureaucrats & insurance companies dragging the chain, quite frankly they need a kick up the backside. Both groups especially the Government are very good at putting positive spin on everything, but when you've got folks still living in 'red stickered' houses or in the 'red-zone' after two years something is very wrong.

Unfortunately you'd like to think the media would do more about this, but it appears they have grown tired of the subject and it doesn't sell newspapers like it did.

To be fair though, rebuilding the city is a massive undertaking and one that stretches the imagination at times and in a strange sort of way has brought the cities residents closer together, even businesses seem to help each other out a lot more and as one journalist put it, 'there's a much greater spirit of collaboration' in the city now.

It must be pretty special seeing the kids grow up through their drawings and you must be looking forward to catching up with them all again soon. Hopefully, fingers crossed the insurer's etc would have finally got off their hands by then.......?

Cheers Toddy

Yea to that Bro - jb
 

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