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I have always considered the attached Brady portrait of Grant as one of the most iconic pictures of an ACW commander in the field. The ACW was not the first war to be photographed yet with this one picture Brady captured an image of perhaps the first modern no-fuss commander. Grant's pose with tilted back hat-ruffled brow-wearing a frown-fists clenched depicts a reluctant subject with no time for this darn cameraman and his new fangled picture contraption. This general needed to get back to his war fast and the picture perfectly portrays that.
Brady took the image of Grant at his forward command center in City Point Va but there is some debate on the exact date. However, the location can determine that it must have been sometime between the battle of Cold Harbor and the commencement of the siege of Petersburg plus it appeared as a lithograph on the front cover of Harper' Weekly dated July 16th 1864


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Whilst sorting through my old ACW stash I happened on this Britain's figure of Grant looking like a Barney Rubble wearing fancy dress and a full set (Some of these early figures from William Britain was not exactly their finest hour). But I was struck in how close the pose resembled the Brady portrait of Grant. There being no other single standing metal figures of Grant except this one and another early version from Britain's (Now theres a big hint Ken Osen) so it crossed my mind how about a small conversion to see if one could imitate in toy soldier form the Brady picture but in color rather than monochrome.

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But taking detailed measurements as a comparator of the figure against the picture of Grant proved the Britain's figure was too squat not much you can do about that plus his hat was not tilted back enough which would involve major surgery without achieving very much-so I shelved the project.
I returned to it recently whilst awaiting a new batch of ACW figures to arrive to carry on my dio thread.
Removing the right arm-remolding a new one-filled the torso gap-removed part of the base to get it closer to the tree-ground down the beard and cartoon face-aged the face with detailed dry painting.


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Dressed the scene next using a Britain's ACW tent and some spare canvas. Grant's folding campaign seat was scratch built using 3 or 4 of Britain's white plastic garden chairs. Appropriate ground scatter and tree trunk.

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There is a great story to tell in how Grant was persuaded to pose for this photo shoot but for that I would need other manufacturers figures rather than Britain's-such as Brady and Grant's aides/officers and I might have a go at that downstream on the Civil War Diaries thread.

Reb.
 
Once again very nicely done Bob and as always with a touch of class........Joe
 
Bloody hell Bob I don't quite know what to say :eek::eek::eek:

What a great project and story. The outcome certainly is magnificent and is a dead ringer for the original picture.
 
By jove my dear fellow, I think you've done it! Great show. Sometime between Cold Harbor and Petersburg . . . . . You will have to get the ONTC ACW-007 Civil War Photographer figure to add to this wonderful dio of "Butcher" Grant.
Mike
 

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By jove my dear fellow, I think you've done it! Great show. Sometime between Cold Harbor and Petersburg . . . . . You will have to get the ONTC ACW-007 Civil War Photographer figure to add to this wonderful dio of "Butcher" Grant.
Mike

Thanks Mike-Yeah I have him in my stash plus a few officer figures that could stand in for Grant's aides but that would mean using those instead of Britain's and I wanted specifically to post this on the Britain's thread-purely of course to support your sterling Britain ACW efforts on here. :D:D

Reb
 
Thanks Mike-Yeah I have him in my stash plus a few officer figures that could stand in for Grant's aides but that would mean using those instead of Britain's and I wanted specifically to post this on the Britain's thread-purely of course to support your sterling Britain ACW efforts on here. :D:D

Reb

I am not surprised that you already have the photographer. Although I prefer not to mix different makers figures, I have been impressed with what ONTC has produced and they do match up well with WB sets. When one realizes that Ken Osen used to be an ONTC partner it makes sense. What a way to start my Saturday - good coffee, great pictures, and terrific company. Huzzah!
Mike
 
".....darn cameraman and his new fangled picture contraption."

UK,

"New fangled?" Grant had his photo taken in the Mexican War. ;) ("WINK!")
 
Great conversion and picture,
WB must give us Melton Prior and Noggs Newman before they deal with Brady.
 
Bob

What a great post and an incredible conversion. You got me thinking and poking around and it seems those Virginia pines are an interesting part of Civil War iconography for photographers, painters, and 'architects'


Grant and the Virginia Pine--a few samples:

1. Grant and Staff at Cold Harbor with pine(1 a reversed printing)
2. Grant seated by pine with 2 officers
3. Grant seated by pine with staff
4. Modern painting of Grant and pine
 

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A number of Winslow Homer's paintings and illustrations show the Viriginia pines where he was assigned as Harper's Weekly's Special Artist.

1. The Sharpshooter (pine as perch for camo and seeing enemy)
2. Home Sweet Home (pine boughs on puptents)
 

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The Brady Grant Pine photo and dust jackets:

From
http://civilwarriors.net/wordpress/?m=200707


Without a doubt, my most difficult dealings with a press concerned the first volume of my Grant biography.* The press not only crafted its own title, Ulysses S. Grant: Youth to Appomattox, but insisted on showing Grant holding up that tree at Cold Harbor.* Mark Grimsley seems fond of that version, as he highlighted it on his own web page.* But I hated it.* It did not help that other people had used that image of Grant, including Geoffrey Perret: the fact is that I was tired of the image (which had also been used on the paperback edition of Let Us Have Peace).* Members of a discussion group dedicated to Grant agreed, and when yet another book came out with the Cold Harbor photo, I was able to substitute it with another one, which, by the way, is also a favorite of William S. McFeely, judging from this and this.* *The battle over the subtitle was even sharper, and it took some time for Ulysses S. Grant: Triumph over Adversity, 1822-1865, to triumph over blandness.*Brooks D. Simpson


Illustrations:
2 versions of Simpson's Grant bio cover--one Grant with tree and the other without
Simpson's earlier book on Grant using the pine tree photo
 

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ACW architecture and the ubiquitous pine tree

Log Cabin by ONTC:
 

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".....darn cameraman and his new fangled picture contraption."

UK,

"New fangled?" Grant had his photo taken in the Mexican War. ;) ("WINK!")

Well thanks for popping up again like the bad proverbial penny and I must bow again to your extensive knowledge on practically everything :mad:

There was me believing all these years that the Mexican War "photos" were daguerreotypes and the ACW photos were a development of the glass plate collodian process allowing paper photographs to be produced from glass negatives such as the Grant portrait. Well if that's wrong and it must be because you said so I stand corrected.

Reb.
 
Well thanks for popping up again like the bad proverbial penny and I must bow again to your extensive knowledge on practically everything :mad:

There was me believing all these years that the Mexican War "photos" were daguerreotypes and the ACW photos were a development of the glass plate collodian process allowing paper photographs to be produced from glass negatives such as the Grant portrait. Well if that's wrong and it must be because you said so I stand corrected.

Reb.

Yes! but at least the bloody limber was in the right place this time! :cool: (well would have been if there was a limber :rolleyes:)

Jeff
 
Well thanks for popping up again like the bad proverbial penny and I must bow again to your extensive knowledge on practically everything :mad:

There was me believing all these years that the Mexican War "photos" were daguerreotypes and the ACW photos were a development of the glass plate collodian process allowing paper photographs to be produced from glass negatives such as the Grant portrait. Well if that's wrong and it must be because you said so I stand corrected.

Reb.

Did you see the "wink" UK?
 
Well thanks for popping up again like the bad proverbial penny and I must bow again to your extensive knowledge on practically everything :mad:

There was me believing all these years that the Mexican War "photos" were daguerreotypes and the ACW photos were a development of the glass plate collodian process allowing paper photographs to be produced from glass negatives such as the Grant portrait. Well if that's wrong and it must be because you said so I stand corrected.

Reb.

When the fur has settled, could some-one perhaps Randy post a copy of one of those daguwhatchyoumacallits from the Mexican War.
 

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