Civil War..as big as I can make it. (2 Viewers)

[Firebat]

Boy Joe you were not kidding when you said BIG.....I don't think I have ever seen a dio this big......Another groundbreaker in the hobby......What will be next. Alex

 

[playsetaddict]

Boy Joe you were not kidding when you said BIG.....I don't think I have ever seen a dio this big......Another groundbreaker in the hobby......What will be next. Alex

It can't get too much bigger...unless I connect this dio with the western town dio that is back beyond the rebel fortifications.
Hmmmmmm...the rebs have to go somewhere.....

 

[Warrior]

Thanks. George. I was hoping you would see the thread. It's been fun. I can't do the orderly troop formations like you do so beautifully with the smaller guys, but I did get accross the sense of there being alot of troops in action.

You're right about how well the Conte figures do drama. No one else has caught up to him in that regard yet, but The Collector's Showcase figures keep on getting better and better and ever more dramatic...and their faces photograph so well. Now if only I could afford some First Legion Guys. They aren't very dramatic, but they sure is pretty.

I'll see you next Friday.

Take care,

Joe

It's funny how when you posted the pictures of this layout with all the plastic figures and I commented about how great the terrain would look loaded with painted figures, you took it to the next level and I was right, it looks awesome with all the painted figures.

The one thing I can't do well with the smaller scale guys is replicate close quarter fighting like you've done here, it is so dramatic the way you laid it all out, I can here the music from Glory playing in the background as the 54th MA storms into Battery Wagner........................will see you on Friday, take care and thanks again for posting the pictures............

 

[Scott]

It can't get too much bigger...unless I connect this dio with the western town dio that is back beyond the rebel fortifications.
Hmmmmmm...the rebs have to go somewhere.....

Nice!

 

[Go for Broke]

I used to really like your WWII dios, but this is your best ever. Awesome.

 

[playsetaddict]

 

[playsetaddict]

I am having trouble with Photobucket again. I have posted a number of new pictures on my website. http://playsetaddict.com/Civil War Big as I Can Make It.html

I would appreciate it if you would scroll down to parts 4 and 5 and then, if you have the know-how to do it, copy a photo you like and post it on this thread. Only one of the photos in Part 5 has been posted here. There are also a few in Part 4 that I wanted to post here but was thwarted by an "Unkown Error" on PB. Thanks,

Joe

 

[The Lt.]

I am having trouble with Photobucket again. I have posted a number of new pictures on my website. http://playsetaddict.com/Civil War Big as I Can Make It.html

I would appreciate it if you would scroll down to parts 4 and 5 and then, if you have the know-how to do it, copy a photo you like and post it on this thread. Only one of the photos in Part 5 has been posted here. There are also a few in Part 4 that I wanted to post here but was thwarted by an "Unkown Error" on PB. Thanks,

Joe

Sent you off an email Joe you should now be able to post your pictures photobucket resolved the problem they were having which was effecting everyone........The Lt.

 

[playsetaddict]

Sent you off an email Joe you should now be able to post your pictures photobucket resolved the problem they were having which was effecting everyone........The Lt.

It is working again. How refreshing that this wasn't my passive aggressive computer getting personal.

My last series of pictures were attempts to use lighting and effects to increase the dramatic feel of the pictures. Familiar scenes but a diffferent feel.

 

[desk11desk12]

I'm going to try to use as much of my Civil War Collection as possible in this set-up before I'm done. For starters i have my painted plastic Yanks advancing of the Fortifications manned mainly by Conte Rebels.

O to borrow Fubar's Civil War forces....

Everything about this thread is GREAT!!!

Carlos

 

[playsetaddict]

Everything about this thread is GREAT!!!

Carlos

Thanks, Carlos. While watching your video again I was struck by how little overlap our two collections have. Now If we could just put them together....

 

[playsetaddict]

This picture is one of my favorites. Sometimes they just work.

I'm not sure whether I'll be able to carry this thread forward until after I get back from Chicago with whatever new stuff I obtain.

 

[playsetaddict]

I picked up the ONTC Hardtack and Coffee set on eBay. The other figures and the tent are by Barzso.
OTSN tomorrow. HooHoo!

 

[mestell]

Another nicely staged and photographed scene Joe . . . . hope to see you at teh OTSN show tomorrow . . . .
:smile2: Mike

 

[CHuDWah]

WOW! Beautiful! Fantastic! Gorgeous! There just aren't enough superlatives to describe this, and all your other, dios as well as your photography! The battle action is awesome, especially the hand-to-hand - and I really like the behind-the-lines details like the farmhouse/field-hospital.

But artillery is my favorite so, with all due respect, some hopefully constructive criticism of this scene:

You have men on the limber and caisson but no drivers - each pair of artillery horses had a driver riding the nearside animal. The crew usually walked or rode saddle horses rather than riding on the ammo boxes. A four-horse team generally was the minimum and that was in the Confederacy where animals were in shorter supply - Union teams usually comprised six horses. You have four animals pulling a gun, a limber, AND a caisson - such a hitch may have existed but I've never seen or heard of it. Usually it was a gun OR a caisson in addition to the limber - either combination would weigh close to two tons. I doubt those four poor horses could move all three at a walk, much less a gallop!

 

[Scott]

WOW! Beautiful! Fantastic! Gorgeous! There just aren't enough superlatives to describe this, and all your other, dios as well as your photography! The battle action is awesome, especially the hand-to-hand - and I really like the behind-the-lines details like the farmhouse/field-hospital.

But artillery is my favorite so, with all due respect, some hopefully constructive criticism of this scene:

CTS sells the full rig as a set and advertizes it as all three vehicles in tow. I purchased extra riders and a third set of horses to get the set closer to "authentic." Unless you can find the old Britains 3 men sitting figures, the one Marx figure is the only one that can sit on the Limber chest.

That's a "toy" version of the Union retreat across the Cub Run Bridge as 1st Bull Run.

 

[NY Collector]

WOW! Beautiful! Fantastic! Gorgeous! There just aren't enough superlatives to describe this, and all your other, dios as well as your photography! The battle action is awesome, especially the hand-to-hand - and I really like the behind-the-lines details like the farmhouse/field-hospital.

But artillery is my favorite so, with all due respect, some hopefully constructive criticism of this scene:



You have men on the limber and caisson but no drivers - each pair of artillery horses had a driver riding the nearside animal. The crew usually walked or rode saddle horses rather than riding on the ammo boxes. A four-horse team generally was the minimum and that was in the Confederacy where animals were in shorter supply - Union teams usually comprised six horses. You have four animals pulling a gun, a limber, AND a caisson - such a hitch may have existed but I've never seen or heard of it. Usually it was a gun OR a caisson in addition to the limber - either combination would weigh close to two tons. I doubt those four poor horses could move all three at a walk, much less a gallop!

IMHO you are incorrect. The ratio was one limber = one item "towed. Also IMHO that is poor looking Caisson.

 

[Scott]

IMHO you are incorrect. The ratio was one limber = one item "towed. Also IMHO that is poor looking Caisson.

The CTS model is a sturdy toy. The one in playset addict's photo has the spare wheel missing.

Let's see the options.....three models including the CTS one, plus a "real" one at Gettysburg.

 

[NY Collector]

The CTS model is a sturdy toy. The one in playset addict's photo has the spare wheel missing.

Let's see the options.....three models including the CTS one, plus a "real" one at Gettysburg.

Your photos illustrate that there are far better caissons out there.

 

[CHuDWah]

IMHO you are incorrect. The ratio was one limber = one item "towed.

I don't understand your comment, but...

Period photos commonly show a limber paired with a gun or less commonly a limber with a caisson, but I've never seen one with all three included in the combination. Whatever, data re weight of ACW artillery is a bit hard to come by. From what I've put together from several online sources, a Model 1857 weighed about 2,400 pounds, a fully loaded caisson weighed about the same, and a fully loaded limber weighed around 1,400 pounds. So, in a four-horse team pulling a gun and limber OR a caisson and limber, each animal would be pulling about 1,000 pounds. Again from period pictures, artillery horses appear to be similar to modern standardbreds rather than heavy draft animals (it would make sense to sacrifice some pulling power for speed and maneuverability in battle) - so, the animals would weigh in the 900 - 1,200 pound range. How much a horse can pull depends on a number of factors such as condition of the animal, terrain, speed, etc, etc. But using the general rule-of-thumb that a horse can "pull its own weight" for a sustained period, a gun/limber OR a caisson/limber combination would be close to the team's weight limit. I stand by my opinion that adding another 2,400 pounds in the form of a caisson or a gun, respectively, would overtax a four-horse team.