Dead and wounded figures; for or against? (1 Viewer)

[Louis Badolato]

This is the set I was referring to...you can see him holding the severed head...

That is an old Glossy K&C set from 1988.

 

[Rob]

Dear Rob:

I agree 100% relative to your comments noted above. If you are displaying military sets on a book shelve and there is no idea of trying to show a battle scene I can see that you may not want to show casualty figures. I too would like to see some casualty sets for new D-Day sets by K&C. They had some in the past, but now these older K&C sets cost too much on eBay!

"Iron Brigade" / Gary

Gary, my thoughts exactly. The original D Day set not only goes for a fair few quid on ebay, but (and no offence to those who disagree) because quality has moved on I don't think they go quite as well with the more recent US D Day sets. I do hope Andy may revisit this set in the future as they really are vital in a dio scene.

Rob

 

[6th Wisconsin]

I buy lots of dead and wounded. Honestly, I find the horrors of war repulsive, and I am very sensitive on certain issues regarding flags, emblems, etc., but it really is hard to create an effective battle scene in which no one is getting hurt. Sometimes even one nicely placed wounded or dead figure can add a lot of drama to a grouping. I have been working on a Pickett's Charge setup for nearly 10 years, a little at a time. Can you imagine how that would look with no casualties? I have incorporated at least 20 dead and wounded into that diorama alone.

 

[Guy]

Gary, my thoughts exactly. The original D Day set not only goes for a fair few quid on ebay, but (and no offence to those who disagree) because quality has moved on I don't think they go quite as well with the more recent US D Day sets. I do hope Andy may revisit this set in the future as they really are vital in a dio scene.

Rob

Casualties or wounded figures are a necessity
If you want to make a dio of a real battle scene then you need wounded and/or dead soldiers.They add realism to any dio depicting a confrontation between enemies.It is up to the collector and/or dio maker to use them as subtle as possible
guy

 

[mestell]

Since my main interest in our hobby is setting up action oriented diorama scenes to photograph I do favor the use of casualty figures and wish that there were more available to choose from. Here's a photograph of a section of a scene I just posted this morning showing a Confederate frontal assualt that is 33 inches in length and is comprised of 58 figures. Notice the 4 casualty figures - certainly gives the viewer the feeling that these soldiers are taking enemy fire as any assualt on a defensive position would. I don't believe this photo would be as intriguing without the wounded presence. Please pardon my use of Wm Britian sets on a King & Country thread . . . . .
Mike

 

[Lewey Gun Vick]

My two cents worth; I would prefer dead/wounded figures, however I'd prefer more wounded figures. Also I like the figures to be able to fit into more of a firefight scenario so only 1 KIA and 1-4 WIA are really needed to make the scene realistic.

Cheers!
Vick

 

[Rob]

Well I must say I thought it may be a bit closer than this, but it seems so far the Yes vote is well out weighing the no vote.

Rob

 

[bearybones]

Unfortunately, you can't have a realistic war scene from any era, without having some dead and wounded soldiers in the scene. It seems there are fewer to choose from for the Medieval era, than from most other time periods. King and Country gave us a few wounded knights and one wounded and one dead Saracen. Conte has a number of dead figures in their medieval range, which I have also added to my diorama. I'm guessing that dead figures are not among the best sellers.

 

[bearybones]

Mike, that's a beautifully made Confederate frontal assault. Just fantastic. I always enjoy looking at your outstanding work. Thanks for showing us.

George

 

[CrawlingGuy]

Marx and Airfix both made numerous dead and wounded poses for sale to kids.

The Marx "medical" GI set [presently a "lost" mold?] that came with the Battleground playset was always my favorite.

How do you depict Custer's Last Stand, D-Day landings, or Pickett's charge for example with no dead or wounded? I suppose you could do the opening seconds, but then the scene becomes absurd with no casualties.

However, somebody didn't like the poses it would seem as both the Airfix dead Gurkha and the shot American paratrooper disappeared from later sets and the Marx "medical" WWII GI mold is "lost"[?].

When I consider the most moving combat photography and paintings I've ever seen, they invariably include the cost of war.

 

[Iron Brigade]

Gary, my thoughts exactly. The original D Day set not only goes for a fair few quid on ebay, but (and no offence to those who disagree) because quality has moved on I don't think they go quite as well with the more recent US D Day sets. I do hope Andy may revisit this set in the future as they really are vital in a dio scene.

Rob

Dear Rob:

Thanks for reply back. Yes, certainly any K&C sets made prior to 2003 were not as as detailed as the figures since 2003. It is less costly to buy the current ever increasing prices of the currents K&C sets Vs buying the old retired D-Day sets on eBay. I look forward to seeing more "ACTION" D-Day sets in 2011, perhaps in time for D-Day, June 6th?

Best regards, Gary

 

[OldDragon]

As a pre-20th century collector, I would buy " casualty" figures ... although not in the numbers as other actions, such as standing & firing, advancing, marching etc etc.

I find that casualty figures add greatly to my displays ... for instance the crawling grenadier in the Sgt Evert set. In battle scenes, there are not enough of concussed, disorientated, dazed, crawling, falling, tumbling over poses.

One other observation I like to share .. is that I generally avoid "flat dead & lying on a base" figures, not because of anything .. IMHO these are too one dimensional and are sometimes difficult to display with the flat bases. I prefer figures that are "slumped over" without the bases which has been done.

My 2 cents.

OD

 

[Napoleon1er]

CAn not have a dio without them. We need more, in my opinion. Like a group of guys under cannon fire. I think it is dishonorable to the people who died to ignore the sad reality of war.

 

[Beaufighter]

Absolutely 100% for manufacturing them (casualties/wounded soldiers and or civilians, etc.) to include in a historical TS display.

Hang Tough,
Beaufighter

 

[Deitz]

Wounded and dead soldiers add so much to a set-up. I hope Andy continues to make them.

Brian

 

[OzDigger]

I'm not against Dead or Wounded figures as I know they would be useful in some dioramas but as I don't use diorama displays I have no need for them.

 

[old tank]

Yes dead and wounded and surrending figures are needed
for real effects for dioramas, I have all of K.C. that have
been made.

 

[Rob]

There have in recent times been some very good dead and wounded figures.The dead German figure in the Normandy HJ releses is very good as is the German casualty in one of the Big Red 1 sets. The recent British wounded figure with medic from the D Day range is a very realistic set and helps make a great scene.

Rob

 

[breslau]

I'm all for dead and wounded - you can't separate casualties from the battlefield. But like another post said, I can't imagine they would be a big seller. As an aside, I'd like K & C to do a field hospital and everything associated. Also have captured enemy soldiers being cared for by their captors medical staff.

 

[Normandy1944]

I think casualty figures can make a diorama more realistic







Harrie