Hi
I would not say everything is more expensive in the UK but certainly a lot of things are, but the US also have import duty and sales tax [by the way in the UK we do not have VAT/sales tax on books/papers/Kids clothes/non luxury foods.
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Hi
I would not say everything is more expensive in the UK but certainly a lot of things are, but the US also have import duty and sales tax [by the way in the UK we do not have VAT/sales tax on books/papers/Kids clothes/non luxury foods.
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Re: Dispatches pictures coming through! (P-47 Thunderbolt Squadron correction)
because........... When a US dealer works with HK they BUY in US $ as that is the TAGGED trading currency to HK. So items are priced in US$, and bought in US$ meaning no differance or LOSS in currency exchange and cost.
From the UK we buy in HK doller so there is an exchange loss and also a fee.
Also imports into USA dont have the same shipping or import costs as in UK. There is about 23% added to an item before it even hits the UK. Then Her Majesty adds her 20% tax to all the above. As most global logistic firms are USA operated the fees for shipping are a lot lower. Sometimes even our orders from HK come through the states!!!!
The US has this little bubble around it (at the moment) where the currency is used around the world and your goverment (at the moment) does not import much so import fees are low. As we are an Island and Import nearly everything the UK goverment sees this as an easy tax.
I keep saying at the moment as i have read a few fiancial papers that are saying:-
1, US goverment looking at the potential to introduce a VAT (VAlue added tax) instead of a state tax
2, HK have talked about Detagging the US$ from the HK$ as in HK goverment
3, Imports are increasing to USA as more and more manafacturing is coming in from ROW, this then means the goverment will look at more tax on items coming in fromROW
So this is all before we look to make ANY money in the UK!!
Tony
because........... When a US dealer works with HK they BUY in US $ as that is the TAGGED trading currency to HK. So items are priced in US$, and bought in US$ meaning no differance or LOSS in currency exchange and cost.
From the UK we buy in HK doller so there is an exchange loss and also a fee.
Also imports into USA dont have the same shipping or import costs as in UK. There is about 23% added to an item before it even hits the UK. Then Her Majesty adds her 20% tax to all the above. As most global logistic firms are USA operated the fees for shipping are a lot lower. Sometimes even our orders from HK come through the states!!!!
The US has this little bubble around it (at the moment) where the currency is used around the world and your goverment (at the moment) does not import much so import fees are low. As we are an Island and Import nearly everything the UK goverment sees this as an easy tax.
I keep saying at the moment as i have read a few fiancial papers that are saying:-
1, US goverment looking at the potential to introduce a VAT (VAlue added tax) instead of a state tax
2, HK have talked about Detagging the US$ from the HK$ as in HK goverment
3, Imports are increasing to USA as more and more manafacturing is coming in from ROW, this then means the goverment will look at more tax on items coming in fromROW
So this is all before we look to make ANY money in the UK!!
Tony
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Whilst I appreciate that FX and transportation are a factor to explain why items are more expensive in the UK - one thing is far less clear.
FL, CS, WB, JJD and TG are exactly the same as KC with regards to being manufactured in China and imported to the UK. Therefore, they all have FX, transport and various duties to pay.
However, below is a table of products with US v UK pricing; interesting how only KC appears to charge more in sterling than dollars.
WB British 24th Foot At-The-Ready #1 $28.00 £22.99
CS Old Guard Prone $32.50 £30.00
FL English Archer $49.95 £45.00
TG Prisoner Normandy $57.00 £46.00
JJD Highlanders Charging with Musket #2 $70.00 £50.00
KC Aussie Sign Painter $35.00 £35.95
Cheers
Gazza
Whilst I appreciate that FX and transportation are a factor to explain why items are more expensive in the UK - one thing is far less clear.
FL, CS, WB, JJD and TG are exactly the same as KC with regards to being manufactured in China and imported to the UK. Therefore, they all have FX, transport and various duties to pay.
However, below is a table of products with US v UK pricing; interesting how only KC appears to charge more in sterling than dollars.
WB British 24th Foot At-The-Ready #1 $28.00 £22.99
CS Old Guard Prone $32.50 £30.00
FL English Archer $49.95 £45.00
TG Prisoner Normandy $57.00 £46.00
JJD Highlanders Charging with Musket #2 $70.00 £50.00
KC Aussie Sign Painter $35.00 £35.95
Cheers
Gazza
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Gazza,
Very interesting comparision regarding prices between US & UK for other manufacturers but K&C. In Canada, Ontario where I live, we pay US retail price ( after convert to Canadian $) then + 13% Harmony Sale Tax. Our dollar had surpassed US dollar for past few days so it's all good for us here ( but not for small bussiness though....)
Gazza,
Very interesting comparision regarding prices between US & UK for other manufacturers but K&C. In Canada, Ontario where I live, we pay US retail price ( after convert to Canadian $) then + 13% Harmony Sale Tax. Our dollar had surpassed US dollar for past few days so it's all good for us here ( but not for small bussiness though....)
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Gazza
i hope the weather in Nowwhere is a lot better than that in England where its cold again!!
Good comparison and now a little harder for me to explain as we dont deal with any of these guys. So dont know what the dealer rate is.
here is a couple of guesses though
TG is a UK based firm and are a manafacturer so there is no middle man that would explain them, a lot of costs taken in house. And of course marketing directive will of course to be lower than K&C
WB similar scenario make in China but send to WB in UK
FL i think have a UK director (happy to stand corrected) so i guess be worked out in their pricing again to
JJD, CS, smaller company and range and i guess the supply cost is lower??
Gazza as i say a couple of guesses there opposed to fact know hows......so dont shoot me if wrong as i say calculated guess.........would be easier if i stocked them and saw the dealer price.
As much as we are K&C UK we are OPERATION UK Ltd trading as K&C UK and as such we buy from K&C as a dealer and then price from there. Some guys think we and K&C are the one of the same thing!! but we are not.
If the guys above price with all the factors that we have to take into account and they get what they get then good on them..........I know from talking to a few of the UK dealers who sell the forementioned makers say there is not much in it for a living!!!
Pays the bills!!
Tony
Gazza
i hope the weather in Nowwhere is a lot better than that in England where its cold again!!
Good comparison and now a little harder for me to explain as we dont deal with any of these guys. So dont know what the dealer rate is.
here is a couple of guesses though
TG is a UK based firm and are a manafacturer so there is no middle man that would explain them, a lot of costs taken in house. And of course marketing directive will of course to be lower than K&C
WB similar scenario make in China but send to WB in UK
FL i think have a UK director (happy to stand corrected) so i guess be worked out in their pricing again to
JJD, CS, smaller company and range and i guess the supply cost is lower??
Gazza as i say a couple of guesses there opposed to fact know hows......so dont shoot me if wrong as i say calculated guess.........would be easier if i stocked them and saw the dealer price.
As much as we are K&C UK we are OPERATION UK Ltd trading as K&C UK and as such we buy from K&C as a dealer and then price from there. Some guys think we and K&C are the one of the same thing!! but we are not.
If the guys above price with all the factors that we have to take into account and they get what they get then good on them..........I know from talking to a few of the UK dealers who sell the forementioned makers say there is not much in it for a living!!!
Pays the bills!!
Tony
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Thanks Gazza, excellent outstanding point and have to agree with you totally, one thing that confuses me is how WBritains can charge the same price when the exchange rate is taken into account and not K & C.
The price of K & C has been the subject of many posts on this forum and it can get pretty heated and normally goes the same way - the post is moved on to another subject to deflect it, do not know if this is on purpose or not?
I buy K & C but tend not to buy from K & C from the UK distributors because there is another thing that confuses me? Why can dealers selling K & C offer a higher discount than the UK distributors, I am not just talking about ebay as well.
Thanks Gazza, excellent outstanding point and have to agree with you totally, one thing that confuses me is how WBritains can charge the same price when the exchange rate is taken into account and not K & C.
The price of K & C has been the subject of many posts on this forum and it can get pretty heated and normally goes the same way - the post is moved on to another subject to deflect it, do not know if this is on purpose or not?
I buy K & C but tend not to buy from K & C from the UK distributors because there is another thing that confuses me? Why can dealers selling K & C offer a higher discount than the UK distributors, I am not just talking about ebay as well.
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Guys, just to take a short ride back to the beginning of this thread, I'd like to add my 1/2 pence on the brilliance of this roll out of new figures. I am a Waterloo NAPS range collector only, but also take at least 1 foot figure from every other range/sub range for an "Other Ranges" group I have. From this dispatch I easily added 4 figures to my buy list for this collection. As stated on another thread, it keeps me from getting bored. Here's that thread link that has a 1 year old pic of what I mean. It's become more extensive since. Look at the first pic and I hope this works.:smile2:
http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/fo...ce-More-into-the-Waterloo-Breach-dear-Friends.
I'll be adding possibly EA60 - Aussie, but will hold and hope more to follow, either IF16 or 21 -very happy K&C brought out some fighting Italians, looking at the new Napoleon in Egypt range, maybe 002, but will wait to see the fill in first. And IMHO, the most stunning looking range addition, the SOE. These things completely blow me away. I think the sculpting on these are phenominal, and can't wait to see one in hand. Just WOW!! Thinking either 004 or 011, though the mounted officer is off the charts in my opinion. It might be the first time, I'd consider a non foot soldier for this collection.
Andy and K&C gang, you really did a fantastic job on this one. Thanks much and cheers.........
Joe
http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/fo...ce-More-into-the-Waterloo-Breach-dear-Friends.
I'll be adding possibly EA60 - Aussie, but will hold and hope more to follow, either IF16 or 21 -very happy K&C brought out some fighting Italians, looking at the new Napoleon in Egypt range, maybe 002, but will wait to see the fill in first. And IMHO, the most stunning looking range addition, the SOE. These things completely blow me away. I think the sculpting on these are phenominal, and can't wait to see one in hand. Just WOW!! Thinking either 004 or 011, though the mounted officer is off the charts in my opinion. It might be the first time, I'd consider a non foot soldier for this collection.
Andy and K&C gang, you really did a fantastic job on this one. Thanks much and cheers.........
Joe
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Nice!!! I like your approach. I have often thought of doing something like what you do with buying figures from all those ranges. It is getting harder to do that with all the offerings on the market and rising prices. I must say, they do look great together. I have figures from lots of ranges, but nothing like you (and no lacrosse trophies - although my best friend is a lacrosse ref). Your Waterloo dio looks terrific too. Thanks for sharing again.
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Duke,
Thanks for your comments as always! Although this kite is interesting and quite good looking, I completely agree with you in regards to the selection-I was really hoping to see one of the numerous versions from Zemke's Wolfpack from the
56th FG! With great pain I am respectfully not purchasing this Warbird which is a first for me other than the DAK versions as I do not collect from that theatre of operations. Maybe we will get lucky next time as Andy always has a surprise or "Hun Out Of The Sun" ready to dispatch!
Check Six Indeed!
Marc aka Beaufighter & dh98 #1 Yank Fan
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Think your right a "Hun Out Of The Sun" P47 would of been a better choice
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6th Wisconsin........Thanks much for the kind words. I just peaked at your albums looking for your pics, and found some interesting battlefield relics and a great night firing cannon pic that's pretty wild. Do you have any collection pics? Looking at members' collections/dios is what I enjoy best about the forum.
I'm glad you like the soldier placement weave around the LAX trophies. Lacrosse is my other jealous mistress. Besides my main job, I coach middle school LAX, volunteer PAL coach and a lot of private paid lessons, which affords me THIS jealous mistress. Coaching is a nice skill to have and will come in handy for retirement.
As far as managing costs on the collections, It's certainly getting more difficult, and the discussions on the forum prove that out for many of us. And the fact for me is upon retiring in a little over a year, the major multiple buys for the NAP area will cease. But with this "Other Range" collection, I'm sure it'll be easy to keep up with no more than 2 or 3 foot soldiers a month to keep that fresh, and me happy.
All the best.............Joe
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Joe, I do not have any other collection photos at this time. I seem to never have time to do it, but one of these days soon I hope to do some of that. I don't really have much in the way of finished dioramas. For now I have mini dios setup on shelves but without all the landscaping in place. I do have plans to eventually finish up ones I have been putting together of Pickett's penetration of the Angle at Gettysburg, an AWI battle using First Legion figures, a mostly K&C RAF airfield, Battle of Berlin, Ancient Egypt, paratroopers on D-Day, Burnside Bridge, the 2nd Wisconsin at Gettysburg, the 6th Wisconsin at Antietam, Battle of the Bulge, and landings on D-Day and D+1. Too much going on at once!!!! I have also started dabbling in Napoleonics. I collected only Civil War for 7 years, and as you can see that has changed a bit. I wish I could also do China.
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6th..........Wow, that's a mouthful of ranges.......I admire the guys who collect a little of many ranges.....it has to keep it interesting for you. I'll give you a suggestion on the shelf mini dios. Buy some different color roll grass mats from Woodland Scenics. You can do a lot with those without getting too expensive. maybe add a little buildarama/jg miniature/H&A pieces/trees and it makes for a great scene. A good example of that is on the K&C threads that Capital Ron started for NAPPERS. He has glass shelf cabinets, but added some of the above and spiced it up in spots. Naturally, you need the time, and I too understand about that. Hopefully, it will come. Here's the thread. http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/showthread.php?22364-K-amp-C-Napoleonic-Corner/page22
Good luck with it.............Joe
Good luck with it.............Joe
I liked the winter armoured car, but the thunderbolt just didn't pull mt trigger.Maybe it looks better in person...Ron
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Re: Dispatches pictures coming through! (P-47 Thunderbolt Squadron correction)
Hey Peiper007,
So do you have a regular ebay uk supplier who offers discount then?. Am often scanning ebay for good deals etc^&cool.
All the best
Rob
Hey Peiper007,
So do you have a regular ebay uk supplier who offers discount then?. Am often scanning ebay for good deals etc^&cool.
All the best
Rob
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Re: Dispatches pictures coming through! (P-47 Thunderbolt Squadron correction)
I can here the K&C axe sharpening as we post
Mitch
I can here the K&C axe sharpening as we post
Mitch
I do know of ebay suppliers and non ebay suppliers who offer 10% - 15% discount, I just want to know why they can on their margins and K & C who sell directly not offer discounts, however i have bought about £250 per month on average in the last 4 years.
Will not tell anyone because the golden goose could be hit with that axe, I think there are a few 'ringer' on the forum.
I will admit most of my purchases are from the US as i get more for my money, with prices being $ = £ and in some case things are priced higher in £s than in $s.
For our colonial cousins check out both US and UK websites for prices.
It has been nice to be part of the forum but me thinks my comments may mean I disappear in night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will not tell anyone because the golden goose could be hit with that axe, I think there are a few 'ringer' on the forum.
I will admit most of my purchases are from the US as i get more for my money, with prices being $ = £ and in some case things are priced higher in £s than in $s.
For our colonial cousins check out both US and UK websites for prices.
It has been nice to be part of the forum but me thinks my comments may mean I disappear in night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!