Early Pz.IV (1 Viewer)

[IXEC]

Looks GOOD . . .^&cool

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Very nice detail and weathering.

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

I'm sure Wayne will be happy! :smile2:

 

[notascoldasbastogne]

That Looks AWSOME!!! {bravo}}

 

[uksubs]

Look very nice

 

[Mitch]

I presume the inverted Y means its 1st Panzer division???
Mitch

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I presume the inverted Y means its 1st Panzer division???
Mitch

From late 1940 to 1942. Primarily a Barbarossa insignia for the 1st Panzer Division

Terry

 

[chocolate mousse]

This is turning into a good year for my eastern front!

 

[lancer]

Nice looking job of an icon of German armor. -- Al

 

[Blowtorch]

stunning. wish it had the turret stowage bin

 

[Phantom Warrior]

stunning. wish it had the turret stowage bin

Unfortunately it's an Ausf D and the storage bins didn't appear until Ausf. E.

Terry

 

[Blowtorch]

Unfortunately it's an Ausf D and the storage bins didn't appear until Ausf. E.

Terry

they didn't retrofit? how stubborn of them

 

[Phantom Warrior]

they didn't retrofit? how stubborn of them

They may have done some retrofits - I don't know. But keep in mind, the short barrel Ausf. D was the first large production number model and was soon being replace by the Ausf E which was the last of the sort barrel Pz. IV. So retrofitting an Ausf. D may not have been too common. Rather than retrofit, old Pz. IV chssis may have been used to make tank destroyers, etc.

Terry

 

[Blowtorch]

They may have done some retrofits - I don't know. But keep in mind, the short barrel Ausf. D was the first large production number model and was soon being replace by the Ausf E which was the last of the sort barrel Pz. IV. So retrofitting an Ausf. D may not have been too common. Rather than retrofit, old Pz. IV chssis may have been used to make tank destroyers, etc.

Terry

Think we'll see a DAK version?

 

[Mitch]

I thought by then some were painted yellow? I know the 1st PD had some changes from its birth. what is Figarti saying this AFV is covering??
Mitch

QUOTE=Phantom Warrior;471790]From late 1940 to 1942. Primarily a Barbarossa insignia for the 1st Panzer Division

Terry[/QUOTE]

 

[Blowtorch]

what is Figarti saying this AFV is covering??
Mitch

does the uniform provide a clue? not an expert in those myself...but gut feeling is 1942. I think 1PD was one of the broken divs in the quieter northern fronts in 42. But it may have given some of it's tanks to a unit in the southern offensive area. maybe this guy is looking for his new unit

 

[Rob]

Very nice indeed, great release from Figarti.

Rob

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I thought by then some were painted yellow? I know the 1st PD had some changes from its birth. what is Figarti saying this AFV is covering??
Mitch

QUOTE=Phantom Warrior;471790]From late 1940 to 1942. Primarily a Barbarossa insignia for the 1st Panzer Division

Terry

[/QUOTE]

If you mean dunkelgelb (dark yellow) that replaced grey as the base colour in February 1943. Production of Ausf D ended May 1941. Unless the Pz. IV. Ausf. D was painted a desert colour for North Afrika, it would have been grey. Figarti says it is an Ausf. D. from the Battle of France in 1940. But I don't think the simplified Division symbols (yellow inverted Y) were used in the Battle of France. I think the 1st PD symbol at the battle of France was a thick "X". It would have been repainted to the inverted Y in time for Barbarossa in June 1941.

Terry

 

[Mitch]

Terry..

I am talking about the divisional markings. I thought, though I am probably wrong and its from memory that the X was later 41 onwards and the inverted Y was earlier. Did the 1PD not have another emblem div marking somewhat like a tree very early?? Your probably near your resources and I am going from memory but, I can't recal them being white for France
Mitch


If you mean dunkelgelb (dark yellow) that replaced grey as the base colour in February 1943. Production of Ausf D ended May 1941. Unless the Pz. IV. Ausf. D was painted a desert colour for North Afrika, it would have been grey. Figarti says it is an Ausf. D. from the Battle of France in 1940. But I don't think the simplified Division symbols (yellow inverted Y) were used in the Battle of France. I think the 1st PD symbol at the battle of France was a thick "X". It would have been repainted to the inverted Y in time for Barbarossa in June 1941.

Terry[/QUOTE]

 

[Blowtorch]

Figarti says it is an Ausf. D. from the Battle of France in 1940.

with that uniform?