Figarti JS2 and Tank Riders (3 Viewers)

Hi Guys
This must be one of the best tanks i have seen including the poses of the tank riders
Could this be done in winter white wash
George you are the expert in Eastern front what kind of camos did the Russians have was it just olive green
Regards Scott
 
Hi Guys
This must be one of the best tanks i have seen including the poses of the tank riders
Could this be done in winter white wash
George you are the expert in Eastern front what kind of camos did the Russians have was it just olive green
Regards Scott

If it had any paint, it was often green.:D Sometimes just primer. Often whitewashed in winter (or with snow or bedsheet camo)

But they did have multiple camo schemes.

Here are some links - there are too many camo schemes to describe in words.

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?TSW-001

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?EXP-049

http://www.aviapress.com/viewonekit.htm?ARV-005

Terry
 
Those new Soviet pieces are really nice. I especially like the officer of the tank riders. The red piping on his uniform really make it pop. In the past many of the Soviet troops have been accused of having rather bland uniforms ( thus disappointing sales for manufacturers ). This initial release by Figarti looks very promising. I eagerly await further developments. :cool:
 
Here is an excerpt from the Russian instructions on how to camoflauge a tank for winter. Unlike the German's use of whitewash, the Russians often used oil based paint.

In winter, tanks are painted all white when the aim is to avoid observation, and in two colors with large spots when the aim is to avoid identification. As a rule, all-white paint is employed in level, open country characterized by a lack of variegated color. Two-color disruptive winter paint is used where the ground presents a variety of color, where there are forests, underbrush, small settlements, thawed patches of earth, etc.

One-color camouflage paint is applied to all parts of the tank in one or two coats. For the paint, zinc white or tytanium white is used only with an oil base, and slight amounts of ultramarine coloring. For the lack of anything better, the tanks may be painted with chalk dissolved in water.

Painting in two colors with large spots can be undertaken in two ways: one is to paint only part of the tank surface, leaving about 1/4 or 1/3 of the tank's surface in the original green; another is to repaint the tank entirely in two colors, either white and dark gray, or white and gray-brown.

When the weather is cold, painting should take place in a warm place, since paint applied when the temperature is 10° below zero Fahrenheit is too hard to be applied.

In winter, as in summer, it is necessary to avoid mechanical repetition of patterns and colors. For example, in painting the tanks of a platoon, one or two tanks are painted white, a third in white irregular stripes leaving parts of the protective green paint as it is, the fourth with white and dark gray spots, and finally, the fifth with white and grayish-brown spots.

c. Covers and Ground Masks

For winter tank camouflage, one may use nets made of cord which have fastened to them irregular white patches of fabric, about 1 yard across. A large all-white cover also may be used.

When using white winter covers, it is necessary to pay attention to the degree of whiteness of the materials used, for even if a little yellow shows or if part of the material is soiled, it will sharply outline the cover and the tank against the background of pure white snow. A simple method to improve this camouflage is to place a thin layer of snow on the cover.

In winter, ground masks are also used. But the construction of these camouflage masks involves special considerations dependent on the character of the background. The principal camouflage materials employed are irregularly shaped pieces of white fabric or painted white matting. In addition to the white patches, dark patches should be fastened to the material to give the appearance of bushes, tree tops, or other natural ground features. For dark patches one may use tree branches and other similar materials. As with covers, the use of white patches alone, or of a combination of white and dark patches, will depend entirely on the terrain and the coloration of the surroundings.

To attach the patches to the mask, they are frozen on after wetting the material with water.
 
. The red piping on his uniform really make it pop. In the past many of the Soviet troops have been accused of having rather bland uniforms

That started happening in mid-42. After Stalin lost yet another large pocket at Kharkov & the Germans were rolling on to Stalingrad & the Caucasus oilfields, he thought it might be a good time to bring back some regalia & instill some pride
 
Hi Guys
This must be one of the best tanks i have seen including the poses of the tank riders
Could this be done in winter white wash
George you are the expert in Eastern front what kind of camos did the Russians have was it just olive green
Regards Scott

Scott,
The vast majority of Soviet tanks were done in Russian Green, some were whitewashed for winter, others had two tone green and brown camo, others had three tone green, brown and tan/yellow camo, I'd venture to guess virtualy none of the JS II's had any camo other than the basic Russian Green paint.....................
 
i want a button down JS2.
something for my fall of berlin jerries to shoot at.:)

I recall reading somewhere that the JS2 would not have had the mounted MG in Berlin. Apparently it snagged on the streetcar wires or something along those "lines", but that is where mine is going anyway.
 
I recall reading somewhere that the JS2 would not have had the mounted MG in Berlin. Apparently it snagged on the streetcar wires or something along those "lines", but that is where mine is going anyway.

thanks for the info mate.:)
i think the MG should be removable.
 
I recall reading somewhere that the JS2 would not have had the mounted MG in Berlin. Apparently it snagged on the streetcar wires or something along those "lines", but that is where mine is going anyway.

I hadn't heard that. I'm surprised there were many streetcar lines still standing during the Battle of Berlin.

Terry
 
I recall reading somewhere that the JS2 would not have had the mounted MG in Berlin. Apparently it snagged on the streetcar wires or something along those "lines", but that is where mine is going anyway.

They got close though...if you have the Russian Tankomaster book on the JS series, look at photo 142; translated it says: column of IS-2 tanks in Berlin. April 1945. (The photo is a column of IS-2 tanks with the white band on the turret & HMG on top.

But you can never be too certain. I remember modelers covering the Yom Kippur War would never put these HMGs on their T-54/55 tanks for the longest time because all photos of the time showed them without it. Then a whole slew of pics from the Chinese Farm came out showing KO'd T-54/55s with them on indeed.

Similar story with the Magach tanks. Never was there a pic found of a M48/60 Magach with .50 cal on top...but a recent history book had a story of a tanker who took his tank back to the forward depot to exchange his .30 for a .50 (.50 was better for shooting at the missile teams)

Can never be too sure with cupola machine guns
 
I recall reading somewhere that the JS2 would not have had the mounted MG in Berlin. Apparently it snagged on the streetcar wires or something along those "lines", but that is where mine is going anyway.

Look what I found...pictures from Berlin from a Russian site I downloaded sometime ago.

Carlos

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Thats one hot looking AFV its caused alot of problems..........:D,for the Germans to..........:)
 
Got a super quick turnaround from Clive at Grey Goose.
Huuuuuge beast of a tank, very imposing.

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