Figure bases, want 'em with or without? (2 Viewers)

With bases or without?

  • With

    Votes: 23 65.7%

  • Without

    Votes: 12 34.3%
  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
ivanmoe

ivanmoe

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Thought that a poll might shed some quantitative light on collector preference in this regard. The poll assumes NO increase in RRP and that the set comes with a yet-to-be attached base.
 
Why not with or without? TCS has produced a number of figures with removable bases. The latest was the excellent George S. Patton 60mm figure. I can place the figure on or in armor without the base.

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I think both aspects have their pro's and con's. So long as the standing figures w/o the base can stand without taking a fall I am all for it.
It doesn't take much for a painted metal figure to tip over in a curio and suffer a paint chip !
Prone figures speak for themselves and for me look better without.

Wayne
 
PanzerAce1944 said:

It doesn't take much for a painted metal figure to tip over in a curio and suffer a paint chip !
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I'm completely open to the concept of removable bases. However, stability in the cabinet is pretty much non-negotiable. If I can't set a figure upright with a reasonable expectation of it remaining that way, I'll have to start collecting plastics.

-Moe
 
My opinion is that detached bases should be offered as an option. This may, of course, make it more expensive.
 
ivanmoe said:
See my comment from the opening of the thread.:)

-Moe
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The TCS figures I mentioned cost the same as figures with regular attached bases. Brian made the specificaly so they could stand within vehicles.

K&C has a different solution. The Karl Otto figure and some US Tanker figures are attached to a Jerry Can, Radio etc. The added weight satabilizes the figure.

1/18 scale figures by Dragon use clear plastic detachable bases. The bases have a peg that inserts into a hole in the foot of the figure. TCS did the same thing; but with two pegs into two feet.

I would design figures with Neodymium-Iron-Boron .125" diameter X .062 " thick discs molded into one foot. A small iron disc detachable base would be held by the magnet; or an iron plate could be the base of a diorama and all the figures would attach to the plate. The magnets cost about $.33 retail in packages of 3. The package costs more than the contents! The grip of the magnet is several ounces. You won't see figures falling over short of a large earthquake!
 
one thing you guys have never mentioned...

these pegs are small...short and thin...

and they are designed to fit snugly within the base holes to be secure...

removing and replacing them will eventually put a strain on the integrity of the metal...

if you have owned figures with swords and bayonets...
and experienced some bending in them from too much touching...
you already know this compromises the metal...

once they break off...

you're gonna have a hard time balancing that figure with or without a base...

secondly...

these mount pegs are only a few cm's long...they are not 1-2 inches long...

to stick them in foam board and hope they will stay balanced is dubious...

I like bases on most figures...

some figures I prefer no bases...

I prefer no bases on "dead" figures..."laying/kneeling firing" figures...etc...
but still a base with appropriate groundwork should be included in the box to give the buyer options...

if the design is a tripod configuration...maybe a musket as the third leg for balance...that's okay...
but again...still a base with appropriate groundwork should be included in the box...

even if they balance without a base...then a base should be included in the box...

two tiny little foot pegs will not guarantee they will stay upright on a foam base...
in fact...they probably wont...
 
I would design figures with Neodymium-Iron-Boron .125" diameter X .062 " thick discs molded into one foot. A small iron disc detachable base would be held by the magnet; or an iron plate could be the base of a diorama and all the figures would attach to the plate. The magnets cost about $.33 retail in packages of 3. The package costs more than the contents! The grip of the magnet is several ounces. You won't see figures falling over short of a large earthquake!



As Ready For Action already does. :)

Martin
 
mikemiller1955 said:
one thing you guys have never mentioned...

these pegs are small...short and thin...

and they are designed to fit snugly within the base holes to be secure...

removing and replacing them will eventually put a strain on the integrity of the metal...

if you have owned figures with swords and bayonets...
and experienced some bending in them from too much touching...
you already know this compromises the metal...

once they break off...

you're gonna have a hard time balancing that figure with or without a base...

secondly...

these mount pegs are only a few cm's long...they are not 1-2 inches long...

to stick them in foam board and hope they will stay balanced is dubious...

I like bases on most figures...

some figures I prefer no bases...

I prefer no bases on "dead" figures..."laying/kneeling firing" figures...etc...
but still a base with appropriate groundwork should be included in the box to give the buyer options...

if the design is a tripod configuration...maybe a musket as the third leg for balance...that's okay...
but again...still a base with appropriate groundwork should be included in the box...

even if they balance without a base...then a base should be included in the box...

two tiny little foot pegs will not guarantee they will stay upright on a foam base...
in fact...they probably wont...
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Agree with you here Mike, and Andy has pretty well laid the matter to rest anyhow, I will say one last thing on the matter...and this is from my point of view only. Apart from the large college dios I am involved with 100% of my dios are for a quick set-up to take pics and then post on the forum, therefore the issue of balance and staying upright is no real problem as they have to do so for only an hour or so at most, blu-tack will do the job just fine. For the more permanent dios yes you would need to glue them down, but if it's a permanent set up bases wouldn't matter would they? If the bases were provided separate and they were done correctly one would assume they would be a snug fit and therefore not loose, done right glue may not be needed. But as I say it is just what I would prefer and I think no one loses if done right.
 
mikemiller1955 said:
one thing you guys have never mentioned...

these pegs are small...short and thin...

and they are designed to fit snugly within the base holes to be secure...

removing and replacing them will eventually put a strain on the integrity of the metal...

if you have owned figures with swords and bayonets...
and experienced some bending in them from too much touching...
you already know this compromises the metal...

once they break off...

you're gonna have a hard time balancing that figure with or without a base...

secondly...

these mount pegs are only a few cm's long...they are not 1-2 inches long...

to stick them in foam board and hope they will stay balanced is dubious...

I like bases on most figures...

some figures I prefer no bases...

I prefer no bases on "dead" figures..."laying/kneeling firing" figures...etc...
but still a base with appropriate groundwork should be included in the box to give the buyer options...

if the design is a tripod configuration...maybe a musket as the third leg for balance...that's okay...
but again...still a base with appropriate groundwork should be included in the box...

even if they balance without a base...then a base should be included in the box...

two tiny little foot pegs will not guarantee they will stay upright on a foam base...
in fact...they probably wont...
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Good post and issues beyond the majority of collectors to fix and maintain. Collectors are in later years they want immediate collections and many seem not to want to fiddle with these expensive purchases. They are display items not toys and there is a difference
 
This one is too difficult for me to generalize and it depends on the figure.

For marching figures I prefer a base for stability and congruity, for certain fighting figures I prefer them without bases so that they can be used as tank riders etc.
 
Panzer ace said:
This one is too difficult for me to generalize and it depends on the figure.

For marching figures I prefer a base for stability and congruity, for certain fighting figures I prefer them without bases so that they can be used as tank riders etc.
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As Panzer Ace said, to generalize with a Base or No Base can't be done. :redface2:

It seems that many dioramas on this forum have demonstrated that a person can hide the base with ground cover, behind an object, using camera angles, using other figures, Photoshop and more. For those that want to have the base for a simple figure display, for example on a pedestal, the base is an asset. The only issues seem to be when a figure is to be placed on a vehicle or surface that is not "flat enough" to easily place the figure securely or to try to blend it in to a textured surface like a cobble stone street, a carrier deck, etc.

PLUS ... you just know, if they are separate, that you are gonna' lose the base on day!!

However, it seems that Andy and other manufactures are all ready addressing that issue.
I voted NO Base.

--- LaRRy
 
I voted no base but that doesn't mean I don't use them,I use them quite a bit.I just want to have the option to choose myself without having to try prying them off.
Mark
 
I voted 'No Base' which gives the option of attaching the included base if desired. I don't understand why so many voters want the base permanently attached, maybe they didn't fully understand that the base would be included with the figure in this scenario.
 
while polls have issues this one is clearly showing so far bases will thankfully remain in this hobby.
 
Baymax said:
while polls have issues this one is clearly showing so far bases will thankfully remain in this hobby.
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Did anyone at anytime say 'get rid of the bases'? were you not paying attention?............

 
Yeah I don't get it.Nobody said to get "rid"of the bases totally.Even though 2/3 said to keep the bases as is a large minority want the option.
Mark
 
I prefer with base....there is more stability to the figure when standing in the cabinet.....
A few without a base, but with something close the feet or so to provide some balance are welcome also...
Cheers
Luiz
 
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