First Legion Stug III Ausf F/8 (1 Viewer)

[fmethorst]

The first combat unit to receive the Tiger II was Panzerkompanie (Fkl) 316 which operated as a component of Panzer Lehr Regiment. In January 1944 this unit was re-named 1.s.Pz.Kp (Fkl). This unit received 5 Tiger Ausf. B's (Porsche-Turm Fgst. No. 280001-280005) on March 14, 1944 at the Kaisersteinbruch training grounds. The Pz.Div.Lehr transfered to France in late April 1944. On May 18 1944 Pz.Div.Lehr ordered the 1.s.Pz.Kp. (Fkl) to revert to the reliable StuG III due to technical problems with the Tiger Ausf. B's. On D-Day all 5 Tiger Ausf. B's were in Chateaudun. The standing order was to ship the tanks back to Germany or to destroy them if there was no other way of preventing their capture by the allies. On July 15, 1944 the vehicles were detached from Pz.Div.Lehr and shipped to the southern part of the French Eure et Loire sector. It appears that repairs were carried out there and the vehicles were pronounced partially combat ready. On Aug. 13, 1944 the tanks returned to Chateaudun with orders to help defend the city. All 5 were lost between Aug. 15-18, 1944.

The second unit to receive the Tiger II was 1./s.H.Pz.Abt.503 which received 12 Porsche-Turm (Porsche Turret) Ausf. B's on June 16, 1944 at the Ohrdruf training grounds.

The third unit to receive the Tiger II was 3./s.H.Pz.Abt.503 which received 12 Porsche-Turm (Porsche Turret) and 2 Serien-Turm (Series Turret) (14 total) Ausf. B's on July 31, 1944 at the Mailly le Camp training grounds.

The first SS unit to receive the Tiger II was 1./s.SS-Pz.Abt.101 which received 14 Serien-Turm (Series Turret) Ausf. B's on Aug.1, 1944 at the Sennelager training grounds.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

What tank would you like to see next Terry

I would like to see a Russian T-34 or KV1 if we are talking about the FL Stalingrad series, although I think Matt said the first 2 AFVs would be German??

Terry

 

[Phantom Warrior]

The first combat unit to receive the Tiger II was Panzerkompanie (Fkl) 316 which operated as a component of Panzer Lehr Regiment. In January 1944 this unit was re-named 1.s.Pz.Kp (Fkl). This unit received 5 Tiger Ausf. B's (Porsche-Turm Fgst. No. 280001-280005) on March 14, 1944 at the Kaisersteinbruch training grounds. The Pz.Div.Lehr transfered to France in late April 1944. On May 18 1944 Pz.Div.Lehr ordered the 1.s.Pz.Kp. (Fkl) to revert to the reliable StuG III due to technical problems with the Tiger Ausf. B's. On D-Day all 5 Tiger Ausf. B's were in Chateaudun. The standing order was to ship the tanks back to Germany or to destroy them if there was no other way of preventing their capture by the allies. On July 15, 1944 the vehicles were detached from Pz.Div.Lehr and shipped to the southern part of the French Eure et Loire sector. It appears that repairs were carried out there and the vehicles were pronounced partially combat ready. On Aug. 13, 1944 the tanks returned to Chateaudun with orders to help defend the city. All 5 were lost between Aug. 15-18, 1944.

The second unit to receive the Tiger II was 1./s.H.Pz.Abt.503 which received 12 Porsche-Turm (Porsche Turret) Ausf. B's on June 16, 1944 at the Ohrdruf training grounds.

The third unit to receive the Tiger II was 3./s.H.Pz.Abt.503 which received 12 Porsche-Turm (Porsche Turret) and 2 Serien-Turm (Series Turret) (14 total) Ausf. B's on July 31, 1944 at the Mailly le Camp training grounds.

The first SS unit to receive the Tiger II was 1./s.SS-Pz.Abt.101 which received 14 Serien-Turm (Series Turret) Ausf. B's on Aug.1, 1944 at the Sennelager training grounds.

Excellent detail. I knew the Panzer Lehr got them first but not exactly when. And the definition of "operational" is really up for debate.

Terry

 

[The Breaker]

I know the question is for Terry, but I would like to see a Panzer IV with a globular single baffle muzzle brake similar to one in a famous photo from Stalingrad. It shows the tank sitting above a trench filled with German infantry.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I know the question is for Terry, but I would like to see a Panzer IV with a globular single baffle muzzle brake similar to one in a famous photo from Stalingrad. It shows the tank sitting above a trench filled with German infantry.

Wow. Is that ever getting specific and technical. Only the Ausf F version of the Panzer IV had the 75 mm KwK L/43 with the single baffle spherical muzzle brake. Less than 450 were produced before the Ausf G with the longer 75 mm KwK L/48 with a double baffle muzzle brake started in production. With almost 2000 built, the Ausf G Panzer IV was Germany's main battle tank and workhorse of the Panzer divisions.

Why the Ausf F? Because of the photo? Or do you just like single baffle spherical muzzle brakes?

Terry

 

[Blowtorch]

I know the question is for Terry, but I would like to see a Panzer IV with a globular single baffle muzzle brake similar to one in a famous photo from Stalingrad. It shows the tank sitting above a trench filled with German infantry.

aka Ball muzzle break...is on the current Figarti DAK IVF2...which I am now thinking of repainting for the 'Grad

 

[Phantom Warrior]

aka Ball muzzle break...is on the current Figarti DAK IVF2...which I am now thinking of repainting for the 'Grad

The F1 had the ball or spherical muzzle brake. The F2 was renamed the Ausf G early in it's production and it had a double baffle muzzle brake.

Here's a question. What gun and muzzle brake is on the Figarti Panzer IV winter version??? The Ausf G 75 mm double baffle muzzle brake.

Terry

 

[The Breaker]

Wow. Is that ever getting specific and technical. Only the Ausf F version of the Panzer IV had the 75 mm KwK L/43 with the single baffle spherical muzzle brake. Less than 450 were produced before the Ausf G with the longer 75 mm KwK L/48 with a double baffle muzzle brake started in production. With almost 2000 built, the Ausf G Panzer IV was Germany's main battle tank and workhorse of the Panzer divisions.

Why the Ausf F? Because of the photo? Or do you just like single baffle spherical muzzle brakes?

Terry

Actually I prefer the double baffle muzzle brake but for Stalingrad line I prefer the ball single baffle. The gritty,dusty, war torn First Legion Germans and Russians seem to jump from pages of Eastern Front books why not a Panzer IV (the Stug III however is an excellent first choice).

 

[uksubs]

The first combat unit to receive the Tiger II was Panzerkompanie (Fkl) 316 which operated as a component of Panzer Lehr Regiment. In January 1944 this unit was re-named 1.s.Pz.Kp (Fkl). This unit received 5 Tiger Ausf. B's (Porsche-Turm Fgst. No. 280001-280005) on March 14, 1944 at the Kaisersteinbruch training grounds. The Pz.Div.Lehr transfered to France in late April 1944. On May 18 1944 Pz.Div.Lehr ordered the 1.s.Pz.Kp. (Fkl) to revert to the reliable StuG III due to technical problems with the Tiger Ausf. B's. On D-Day all 5 Tiger Ausf. B's were in Chateaudun. The standing order was to ship the tanks back to Germany or to destroy them if there was no other way of preventing their capture by the allies. On July 15, 1944 the vehicles were detached from Pz.Div.Lehr and shipped to the southern part of the French Eure et Loire sector. It appears that repairs were carried out there and the vehicles were pronounced partially combat ready. On Aug. 13, 1944 the tanks returned to Chateaudun with orders to help defend the city. All 5 were lost between Aug. 15-18, 1944.

The second unit to receive the Tiger II was 1./s.H.Pz.Abt.503 which received 12 Porsche-Turm (Porsche Turret) Ausf. B's on June 16, 1944 at the Ohrdruf training grounds.

The third unit to receive the Tiger II was 3./s.H.Pz.Abt.503 which received 12 Porsche-Turm (Porsche Turret) and 2 Serien-Turm (Series Turret) (14 total) Ausf. B's on July 31, 1944 at the Mailly le Camp training grounds.

The first SS unit to receive the Tiger II was 1./s.SS-Pz.Abt.101 which received 14 Serien-Turm (Series Turret) Ausf. B's on Aug.1, 1944 at the Sennelager training grounds.

Great stuff Frank

 

[Sahara]

Did FL ever say what the cost of this Stug will be?

 

[Warrior]

Did FL ever say what the cost of this Stug will be?

This is not etched in stone, but Matt told me he expects the price to come in around 295.00 or so, so we're talking less than 300.00 for both versions of the tank.

I will have them for sale at OTSN along with a few other surprizes..........

 

[Spitfrnd]

This is not etched in stone, but Matt told me he expects the price to come in around 295.00 or so, so we're talking less than 300.00 for both versions of the tank.

I will have them for sale at OTSN along with a few other surprizes..........

I hope some of those surprises are Napoleonic George.

 

[Warrior]

I hope some of those surprises are Napoleonic George.

Sadly, no.............otherwise, I'd encourage you to hop in your car and make the 18 hour drive.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Sadly, no.............otherwise, I'd encourage you to hop in your car and make the 18 hour drive.

Thanks George. Oh well, it will nonetheless be wonderful for you. I guess I will have to wait for post show "surprises".

 

[Warrior]

Bill,
Maybe I'll have some surprizes for the Dedham MA show (which is moving to Burlington this year)...........

 

[Warrior]

This is not etched in stone, but Matt told me he expects the price to come in around 295.00 or so, so we're talking less than 300.00 for both versions of the tank.

I will have them for sale at OTSN along with a few other surprizes..........

Just like I said, the price is not etched in stone; it is actually 299.95.

That said, IT IS under 300.00 just like I said, sorry for the misinformation..............

 

[nasirkasmani]

This is not etched in stone, but Matt told me he expects the price to come in around 295.00 or so, so we're talking less than 300.00 for both versions of the tank.

I will have them for sale at OTSN along with a few other surprizes..........

I hope some of those surprises are Napoleonic George.

Sadly, no.............otherwise, I'd encourage you to hop in your car and make the 18 hour drive.

both versions of the tank eh?

surprises but not Napoleonic? sorry Spitfrnd, it looks like its down to either
samurais or Stalingrad.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Bill,
Maybe I'll have some surprizes for the Dedham MA show (which is moving to Burlington this year)...........

Oooooo, that would be nice.

 

[FirstLegion]

Just like I said, the price is not etched in stone; it is actually 299.95.

That said, IT IS under 300.00 just like I said, sorry for the misinformation..............

Thanks George for clearing that up. We tried to do all we could to keep the model price as low as we could to make it accessible to the most people. For those who see it at Chicago or to the lucky few who are getting it sooner than the actual release, I do sincerely hope you enjoy it. I feel like an expectant father about to give birth for the first time.

Oh, and as for what George will be showing at Chicago, we had hoped to have the Wurttembergers there as a Napoleonic surprise, but we needed one more week. So Chicago suprises will be all Stalingrad all the time plus George will have Uxbridge and Orange, the Prussians, and all of our Napoleonic and WWII releases.

To those who are going, make sure you stop by George's room(s) to see the Stalingrad diorama he'll have on display. It's finally finished and Rod knocked it out of the park on this one, so even if you don't collect First Legion figures, you won't want to miss it as it will be one of the highlights of the show. If you think you've seen it from the images on our site or that Rodrigo has posted, until you've seen the factory interior, you haven't seen anything yet. I like it so much I am having trouble with the thought of selling it....(seriously).

Best,

Matt

 

[Louis Badolato]

Matt,

Great job keeping the Stug under $300. That makes it competitive price wise with the better Figarti vehicles like the Grant, Lee and Priest. I look forward to seeing it in person in Chicago. If it looks as good in person as it does in the photos one will be accompanying me on the flight home after the show.