Girls of the Garrison (1 Viewer)

[King & Country]

I have found a few more 'gals' to go on the NAP battlefield ...

First Legion

but this is more of what I'd like to see..... more realistic to the times ...

Also First legion.

John

Well John, call me old-fashioned if you will, but I'd rather be caught in the sack with that comely young bird than that blowsy old bag...realistic or not!!!

Andy.

 

[Obee]

Well John, call me old-fashioned if you will, but I'd rather be caught in the sack with that comely young bird than that blowsy old bag...realistic or not!!!

Andy.

Well said, Andy,

OK, these figures have prompted some discussion, so hopefully you can also make some of the more 'matronly' ladies as well, and keep all collectors happy

I'd love to see some nursing and caring NAP poses, and they could also fit in with P&M series, much like the other young lady,

and I think what you did for nursing figures in the WW1 & WW2 series are wonderful, so please, let that flow onto NAPS as well ???

John

 

[OzDigger]

Maybe we could see these in future releases..... {sm3}

View attachment 217425

Hey Andy, bring on the Naughty Nazi girls, will be very popular, maybe even better sellers than Adolf.

 

[Vicknor]

Hey Andy, bring on the Naughty Nazi girls, will be very popular, maybe even better sellers than Adolf.

Is the one on the right a laser eyed zombie?

 

[OldDragon]

I think it is important to note that there is documentation for French officers' mistresses wearing form fitting cavalry uniforms. I do take historical issue with the waistcoat and the cut of the trousers, but the concept is completely accurate. That said ...

" Pauline Fourès was born in southern France on March 15, 1778 to and married Jean-Noel Fourès, a cavalryman who was on leave from military duty. When Jean-Noel was called back to active duty during the couple's honeymoon, Fourès accompanied him on the French army's trip to Egypt. As the soldiers' spouses were not permitted to come on the transport ship, Fourès wore a Chasseur uniform to disguise herself,[2] successfully remaining undetected for 54 days until the expedition's arrival in Alexandra." from Wikipedia.

This should put some historical context to it should Andy decided to do such a figure ... Hoping he will.

Bests
OD

 

[King & Country]

Well said, Andy,

OK, these figures have prompted some discussion, so hopefully you can also make some of the more 'matronly' ladies as well, and keep all collectors happy

I'd love to see some nursing and caring NAP poses, and they could also fit in with P&M series, much like the other young lady,

and I think what you did for nursing figures in the WW1 & WW2 series are wonderful, so please, let that flow onto NAPS as well ???

John

I agree with all your suggestions and ideas John...But there are still only 24 hours in a day and 7 days in a week...

Some of what you are talking about are actually 'in the works'...However, no company can or should try to do everything for everyone (recipe for an early demise)...

But just, for a moment, consider the large number of civilians (Men, women and children) that K&C have released in the last 10 years or so..I reckon it's more than the rest of our competitors combined!
And as I said there's more in development...

Best wishes and enjoy the weekend! Andy.

 

[Patton]

Hey Andy, bring on the Naughty Nazi girls, will be very popular, maybe even better sellers than Adolf.

Looking at the pictures provided I would agree that a Naughty nazi girl without shorts would be better than Adolf in shorts.:salute::

I want Ilsa on my shelf ^&grin^&grin

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Well John, call me old-fashioned if you will, but I'd rather be caught in the sack with that comely young bird than that blowsy old bag...realistic or not!!!

Andy.

Hi Andy,
Thanks for the figurines promised. And well delivered. Perhaps it's the uniform rather than the shape of the wearer that is contentious...Marshall Massena's mistress travelled with him in his coach at Wagram dressed in...a dragoon's uniform. But that's just history and I prefer the Hussar uniform. Magnificent. I will finish the diorama and keep my word.
Don't forget the Hussar with squeeze box
Kind regards, Bob

 

[Napoleon1er]

I want Ilsa on my shelf ^&grin^&grin

I had to look up who Isla is, and I am more than a bit disgusted.

A friend of mine died two days ago. He was a WWII veteran who was wounded on D-Day and at the Bulge. After the liberation of Buchenwald, he served as its acting commander. One of his most memorable experiences at the camp was when a group of former prisoners arrived at his office and demanded to speak with him. They placed a purse, a belt, and a couple of other leather objects on his desk. They told him that Isle Koch, the wife of the former Commandant, had ordered these and many more objects made from the skin of dead prisoners.

Isle wasn't very sexy - you can look up pictures of her - but I think she would make a far more accurate representation of SS woman than this Isla. Anyone want Isle on their shelf?

 

[The Military Workshop]

and the good news is Andy has confirmed these figures will be available to all dealers.

 

[Patton]

All tongue in cheek mate.

I wanted a stylized Ilsa on my shelf not Ilse.

I had to look up who Isla is, and I am more than a bit disgusted.

A friend of mine died two days ago. He was a WWII veteran who was wounded on D-Day and at the Bulge. After the liberation of Buchenwald, he served as its acting commander. One of his most memorable experiences at the camp was when a group of former prisoners arrived at his office and demanded to speak with him. They placed a purse, a belt, and a couple of other leather objects on his desk. They told him that Isle Koch, the wife of the former Commandant, had ordered these and many more objects made from the skin of dead prisoners.

Isle wasn't very sexy - you can look up pictures of her - but I think she would make a far more accurate representation of SS woman than this Isla. Anyone want Isle on their shelf?

 

[Artillery_crazy]

Well my two cents on this....

To go down this lane, will make some few folks happy, but for sure will keep the young collector away from the cabinets/shop shelfs ...or are we considering going back to the 80´s and 90´s wen the XRated VHS tapes were at the back of the shop! The example shown here made by First Legion is of very questionable taste....at least on my book.

Now and again these limited series of sexy figures come up....Andrea, Verlinden and others just to mention two, did runs for this niche market....As a matter of fact if you go to e-bay now you will find a few offerings...
My intnent to collect is to do so preserving the accuracy and the Historical period details that existed at the time....These seductive girls dressed ( meagerly dressed {sm4}{sm4} ) would have never existed, as already said in this thread, they are a present day illustration of a period and dress code that was not there in the first place ...
So since I wish my collection to be laid out at my cabinets without any XRated section, that need to be rushed a side when my kids, wife, grand kids or visitors come in to admire them,I will not be considering them in my collection!

A side effect that maybe was not taken in account in this discussion is that it may lead some parents to usher their kids away from a stand that provides these offerings, hence taking away a potential new generation of collectors...

Using John´s words as mine..." I'd love to see some nursing and caring.... poses,..." with actual historical backing as to picture real camp followers! There are numerous examples of these ladies that supported the troops on the field, bringing them water at the front line, dress the wounded or fixing uniforms and food....Some even became war heroes and got citations....In some cases did not have specially tailored uniforms, but in others as during the NAP and later on the Napoeon III period army had specially designed uniforms and a certain number of " water ladies " ( Cantineers/Cantineres ) were alotted to the Regiments.....

Happy Collecting to us all....:salute:::salute:::salute::
Cheers
Artillery Crazy

Well said, Andy,

OK, these figures have prompted some discussion, so hopefully you can also make some of the more 'matronly' ladies as well, and keep all collectors happy

I'd love to see some nursing and caring NAP poses, and they could also fit in with P&M series, much like the other young lady,

and I think what you did for nursing figures in the WW1 & WW2 series are wonderful, so please, let that flow onto NAPS as well ???

John

 

[White Knight]

There will most certainly be a very sexy (and very lethal) 'Milady de Winter'...That's a promise!!!

Thank you, that sounds great and I already look forward to her (I'll try to contain my excitement at the beginning of each month in hope that she may be part of that month's release). :salute::

 

[King & Country]

Well my two cents on this....

To go down this lane, will make some few folks happy, but for sure will keep the young collector away from the cabinets/shop shelfs ...or are we considering going back to the 80´s and 90´s wen the XRated VHS tapes were at the back of the shop! The example shown here made by First Legion is of very questionable taste....at least on my book.

Now and again these limited series of sexy figures come up....Andrea, Verlinden and others just to mention two, did runs for this niche market....As a matter of fact if you go to e-bay now you will find a few offerings...
My intnent to collect is to do so preserving the accuracy and the Historical period details that existed at the time....These seductive girls dressed ( meagerly dressed {sm4}{sm4} ) would have never existed, as already said in this thread, they are a present day illustration of a period and dress code that was not there in the first place ...
So since I wish my collection to be laid out at my cabinets without any XRated section, that need to be rushed a side when my kids, wife, grand kids or visitors come in to admire them,I will not be considering them in my collection!

A side effect that maybe was not taken in account in this discussion is that it may lead some parents to usher their kids away from a stand that provides these offerings, hence taking away a potential new generation of collectors...

Using John´s words as mine..." I'd love to see some nursing and caring.... poses,..." with actual historical backing as to picture real camp followers! There are numerous examples of these ladies that supported the troops on the field, bringing them water at the front line, dress the wounded or fixing uniforms and food....Some even became war heroes and got citations....In some cases did not have specially tailored uniforms, but in others as during the NAP and later on the Napoeon III period army had specially designed uniforms and a certain number of " water ladies " ( Cantineers/Cantineres ) were alotted to the Regiments.....

Happy Collecting to us all....:salute:::salute:::salute::
Cheers
Artillery Crazy

Appreciate your thoughts 'AC'...But generally speaking these are 'Big Boys Toys' and we should not have to worry too much about the anxious parents or the shocked 'kiddie Winkies' getting overly traumatised by a couple of scantily attired Napoleonic Hussies displaying their finer attributes...It's just a wee bit of fun on a very bloody toy soldier battlefield!

Besides, last time I looked, a little bit of 'bum'n' tit' never hurt anybody...historically speaking or otherwise...Best wishes, Andy.

 

[Larry Allen]

Well my two cents on this....

So since I wish my collection to be laid out at my cabinets without any XRated section, that need to be rushed a side when my kids, wife, grand kids or visitors come in to admire them,I will not be considering them in my collection!

Cheers
Artillery Crazy

I find it interesting that .. as toy soldiers collectors .. we find it acceptable to collect solders / people shooting one another, stabbing other soldiers with swords and knives. We see Indians scalping soldiers and battlefield casualties and Barbarians holding up the heads of Roman soldiers. We have sets that show wounded and bloodied figures and much more.

YET ... view a low cut neckline and that is call """ XRated """ ... ???^&confuse.

Have we become so desensitized to violence that these stir little to no emotion yet we are traumatized by a bit of whimsy?

I totally respect your decision to buy or not buy any figure. But why would you feel it necessary to "rush aside" these figures so the kids, wife and such wouldn't be offended ..... while the violence of war is perfectly acceptable to view.

So what I am lead to believe is that it is far worse to see a tiny bit of breast then to see the horror of war? {sm2}
If that is true than that is a SAD state of affairs.

--- LaRRy

 

[ivanmoe]

Googled "Romantic Era Paintings" and this came up:

Seriously, wasn't a bit of bosom an element of fashion around the turn of the century^&confuse

-Moe

 

[Larry Allen]

IN REPLY to the Private Email ... the answer to your question (and comments) is NO, I will not be purchasing these Napoleonic figures as I have no interest in that era or series .....

However:

ANDY .. if you consider making WWII Japanese, Geisha; or maybe camp girls (or comfort girls) for the current JN series; or dancing girls for Boyington's fly-boys; or shore leave girls for the USN series sailors .... I'll put my order in immediately. {sm4} {sm3}

--- LaRRy

 

[Artillery_crazy]

I understand you, Larry and this also puzzles me!!.... but that is how the fabric of our society has been woven....
I am not against the tiny bit of breast...I refer to the figure as a whole show more than just that, compounded with the historical deviation.
If it were just the tiny bit if breasts....history books and historically accurate figures abound...specially in the fashion of the French First Empire....The ladies in court.{sm4}{sm4}
As to why we accept the " collecting people shooting one another, stabbing other soldiers etc..." I am no shrink but I guess we were brought up reading about military campaigns..on Combat, Commandos to mention a few of the magazines one would buy at News Stands...We enjoyed Cow Boys and Indians " fights " in our back yards, some of our first toys have been toy soldiers.... Watched war movies since early stages ... Desert Rats and Combat, Bonanza, The Adventures of Daniel Boone , Star Wars etc...to name a few.So yes, we are accustomed to seeing guns, knives, soldiers and such. On the other hand the .... " concern" as to seeing flesh....is part of our Victorian/Puritan Heritage....and social decôr..I guess.....

Excluding the " accepted art "- the classics from Ancient Reme, Greece and later the Romantic/Classic of the 18th/19th Centuries with their paintings and statues....any other form of " exposure " specially to the small guys...(Those that we want to see grow into collecting so as to give our Hobby a future), is not well seen.
It may sound silly to us, but to certain significant groups and specially if they have children it is an issue.

But as it has been said over and over again...one collects what one likes......Thanks for initiatives as these that the " Fantasy - Erotic " segment of miniature collecting would exists....
I am more old school and prefer to collect pure armies and significant military events.....

I respect those that want to broaden the " toy soldier collecting " that is fine, but frankly would not see Joe Smith buying his 12-year-old son as one of his first toy soldiers one of the very nice looking Hussaries....( Need to say they are very nice indeed, but given that they are not historically aligned, I pass ).

Voila!.Vive la Guerre......

Cheers,
Artillery_Crazy

I find it interesting that .. as toy soldiers collectors .. we find it acceptable to collect solders / people shooting one another, stabbing other soldiers with swords and knives. We see Indians scalping soldiers and battlefield casualties and Barbarians holding up the heads of Roman soldiers. We have sets that show wounded and bloodied figures and much more.

YET ... view a low cut neckline and that is call """ XRated """ ... ???^&confuse.

Have we become so desensitized to violence that these stir little to no emotion yet we are traumatized by a bit of whimsy?

I totally respect your decision to buy or not buy any figure. But why would you feel it necessary to "rush aside" these figures so the kids, wife and such wouldn't be offended ..... while the violence of war is perfectly acceptable to view.

So what I am lead to believe is that it is far worse to see a tiny bit of breast then to see the horror of war? {sm2}
If that is true than that is a SAD state of affairs.

--- LaRRy

 

[Colonel RNZIR]

excellent work Andy.
Detailing very good, and the uniforms aren't bad either.
Might have to fly over to Peter's store to inspect them.
i remember on the parade ground, the RSM barking Chests Out.:salute::

 

[OzDigger]

I had to look up who Isla is, and I am more than a bit disgusted.

A friend of mine died two days ago. He was a WWII veteran who was wounded on D-Day and at the Bulge. After the liberation of Buchenwald, he served as its acting commander. One of his most memorable experiences at the camp was when a group of former prisoners arrived at his office and demanded to speak with him. They placed a purse, a belt, and a couple of other leather objects on his desk. They told him that Isle Koch, the wife of the former Commandant, had ordered these and many more objects made from the skin of dead prisoners.

Isle wasn't very sexy - you can look up pictures of her - but I think she would make a far more accurate representation of SS woman than this Isla. Anyone want Isle on their shelf?

I suspect he was refering to the fictional "Isla She Wolf of the SS" rather than Isle Koch.