Infamous Nazi camp guard dies (1 Viewer)

[Scott]

"......as a country ..." That's my point. Who initiates that act? The current govt.? The Defence Forces?

I've heard a certain public figure from the Vietnam era apologize in print and on TV and radio and you still hear a few.."well "X" didn't apologize to me!" when it's pointed out to people that "X" apologized.

 

[waynepoo]

To be honest I'm not really talking about how bad the bombing of Japan was, many countries suffered large loss of life through this form of Warfare, I'm talking about the systematic, deliberate, prolonged , torture murder and neglect of our captured serviceman and civilians and that of our allies in a manner unmatched in WW2. To be blunt I don't give a tinkers cuss if today's Japenese government has no link to the Imperial Japan of WW2 , they could as a country step forward and apologise in a genuine and heartfelt manner, if they had an ounce of decency or respect for the now fading surviors of our nations who suffered horrific treatment at the hands of their ancestors they should reach out to the victims and do it. Never mind the years gone by , never mind the why should they, etc etc , they should swallow their pride it and just do it, what they did was not an act of war it was torture of the defenceless. Just my view of course.

Rob

I have to totally agree with Rob here, the acts of the Japanese soldiers and saliors in the war were done under orders and general acceptance of the Japanese as a whole, they were condoned by the Imperial general staff and Emperor whose son sits on the throne today, a direct link to the past. The passing of time has not altered these facts.
Wayne.

 

[Rob]

I have to totally agree with Rob here, the acts of the Japanese soldiers and saliors in the war were done under orders and general acceptance of the Japanese as a whole, they were condoned by the Imperial general staff and Emperor whose son sits on the throne today, a direct link to the past. The passing of time has not altered these facts.
Wayne.

Yep, you're right mate, there is no right and wrong, just a massive wrong.

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Rob...

This topic came up not so long back and, while they should have apologised at least to the veterans much again, is down to the fact that they did not believe the way they waged war was illegal or, even wrong. I was shouted down by one poster for saying that it went against their code when I said it was part of their code.

I have spoken to a lot of far east brit veterans and, I would say nearly 90% still hate the japanese and want nothing to do with them. The last one I spoke too actually said what the japanese could do with their apology!!!

You do not get the hatred from western vets as you do from those who faught in burma and other places against the japanese. The IJA treat everyone with absolute harshness and brutality even their own troops.

I express an understanding of why they treat our prisoners of war the way they did when you look at the way they were raised and traditionally indoctrinated. while I still think a formal apology would be at least something don't expect one anytime soon. An apology to many veterans I know would be too little too late.
Mitch

 

[Scott]

I have to totally agree with Rob here, the acts of the Japanese soldiers and saliors in the war were done under orders and general acceptance of the Japanese as a whole, they were condoned by the Imperial general staff and Emperor whose son sits on the throne today, a direct link to the past. The passing of time has not altered these facts.
Wayne.

The Emperor is the link. It might still be the equivalent of forcing someone on the ground to say "uncle" except the Japanese aren't on the ground anymore and how sincere would it be anymore any way?

 

[Scott]

Yep, you're right mate, there is no right and wrong, just a massive wrong.

Rob

Considering "we" the Allies destroyed their military, good chunks of their cities and re-engineeered their society into a western representative government I'd say "we" won. I don't know how sincere an apology would be 65 years later for something the Japanese will most likely not do again.