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I don't believe this 2011 movie has crossed the pond yet but for all you medieval history fans I thoroughly recommend Ironclad It got a very short run at some of the movie-houses earlier this year in the UK but has been released on DVD & Bluray this week.

It tells the true- but little known story- of King John's siege of Rochester Castle in 1215. John Lackland who was not one of our most cherished monarchs signed over his ancient feudal rights when forced by his barons to put his seal on the Magna Carter. The little known historical fact is that he reneged on the deal and with an army of Danish mercenaries he amassed at Dover marched to London to put down this bunch of rebel barons. He got as far as Rochester- an imposing Norman castle and keep on the banks of the river Medway- where a few of the rebels under the command of the Duke of Albany stood in his way holed up in the stronghold. John and his army laid siege on them for two months.

Is it a great movie? No but the filmmakers and actors get a 9 out of 10 from me for making it a downright enjoyable one. It is very very visceral and the fight choreography really is first class. Gallons of false blood is splashed across the camera lens as feet, hands and whole limbs are cut off with medieval ferocity. A superb bunch of Brit actors enhance the movie Brian Cox as Albany; Charles Dance as Archbishop Langton; Derek Jacobi and Kate Mara. But the brilliant actor Paul Giamatti as King John steals the show as he screams at the defenders "It's my castle and I WANT IT BACK".Almost Monty Pythonesque but his retribution on the rebels is far from lampooning. It's fearful.

As a young buck I attended grammar school at Rochester and used to take lunch in the castle gardens (when it wasn't tipping down with rain) subsequently, I got very familar with the large imposing Norman keep, which still to this day bear the scars of King John's siege and was extremely impressed with the re-creation of the castle (mostly CGI) in the film. Also they get it historically right in the film when John- after getting his men to mine tunnels under the castle- orders a few hundred pigs slaughtered and packed under the keep's support and set ablaze. Pig fat was constantly used during this period for setting fire to the wooden supports of fortifications.

Well worth a viewing if and when it gets to the States.

Reb
 
I don't believe this 2011 movie has crossed the pond yet but for all you medieval history fans I thoroughly recommend Ironclad It got a very short run at some of the movie-houses earlier this year in the UK but has been released on DVD & Bluray this week.

It tells the true- but little known story- of King John's siege of Rochester Castle in 1215. John Lackland who was not one of our most cherished monarchs signed over his ancient feudal rights when forced by his barons to put his seal on the Magna Carter. The little known historical fact is that he reneged on the deal and with an army of Danish mercenaries he amassed at Dover marched to London to put down this bunch of rebel barons. He got as far as Rochester- an imposing Norman castle and keep on the banks of the river Medway- where a few of the rebels under the command of the Duke of Albany stood in his way holed up in the stronghold. John and his army laid siege on them for two months.

Is it a great movie? No but the filmmakers and actors get a 9 out of 10 from me for making it a downright enjoyable one. It is very very visceral and the fight choreography really is first class. Gallons of false blood is splashed across the camera lens as feet, hands and whole limbs are cut off with medieval ferocity. A superb bunch of Brit actors enhance the movie Brian Cox as Albany; Charles Dance as Archbishop Langton; Derek Jacobi and Kate Mara. But the brilliant actor Paul Giamatti as King John steals the show as he screams at the defenders "It's my castle and I WANT IT BACK".Almost Monty Pythonesque but his retribution on the rebels is far from lampooning. It's fearful.

As a young buck I attended grammar school at Rochester and used to take lunch in the castle gardens (when it wasn't tipping down with rain) subsequently, I got very familar with the large imposing Norman keep, which still to this day bear the scars of King John's siege and was extremely impressed with the re-creation of the castle (mostly CGI) in the film. Also they get it historically right in the film when John- after getting his men to mine tunnels under the castle- orders a few hundred pigs slaughtered and packed under the keep's support and set ablaze. Pig fat was constantly used during this period for setting fire to the wooden supports of fortifications.

Well worth a viewing if and when it gets to the States.

Reb

Hey Bob, this sounds very good, will put it on the list. Rochester Castle is a great Castle and have been there more than once, well worth a visit.

Cheers

Rob
 
Thanks for the tip. It releases on NETFLIX July 26. It's in the queue.
 
.....It tells the true- but little known story- of King John's siege of Rochester Castle in 1215. John Lackland who was not one of our most cherished monarchs signed over his ancient feudal rights when forced by his barons to put his seal on the Magna Carter. The little known historical fact is that he reneged on the deal and with an army of Danish mercenaries he amassed at Dover marched to London to put down this bunch of rebel barons. He got as far as Rochester- an imposing Norman castle and keep on the banks of the river Medway- where a few of the rebels under the command of the Duke of Albany stood in his way holed up in the stronghold. John and his army laid siege on them for two months.

Is it a great movie? No but the filmmakers and actors get a 9 out of 10 from me for making it a downright enjoyable one. It is very very visceral and the fight choreography really is first class. Gallons of false blood is splashed across the camera lens as feet, hands and whole limbs are cut off with medieval ferocity. A superb bunch of Brit actors enhance the movie Brian Cox as Albany; Charles Dance as Archbishop Langton; Derek Jacobi and Kate Mara. But the brilliant actor Paul Giamatti as King John steals the show as he screams at the defenders "It's my castle and I WANT IT BACK".Almost Monty Pythonesque but his retribution on the rebels is far from lampooning. It's fearful.

As a young buck I attended grammar school at Rochester and used to take lunch in the castle gardens (when it wasn't tipping down with rain) subsequently, I got very familar with the large imposing Norman keep, which still to this day bear the scars of King John's siege and was extremely impressed with the re-creation of the castle (mostly CGI) in the film. Also they get it historically right in the film when John- after getting his men to mine tunnels under the castle- orders a few hundred pigs slaughtered and packed under the keep's support and set ablaze. Pig fat was constantly used during this period for setting fire to the wooden supports of fortifications.


Excellent critique of the movie. Blu-ray was super. Got to love high definition. I suppose that it saved on the graphic budget
and didn't add anything to the story line [only so much you can get into a two hour movie], but it showed Rochester Castle as
a somewhat remote fortification. When in fact it was surrounded by a centuries old city and a cathedral.

Still great action in spite of the shaky cam style.
 
Still great action in spite of the shaky cam style.

I thought that went out with "30 Something" back in the 90s.

Great King John! Paul Giamatti is right up there with Claude Rains, Ian Holm, and Peter Ustinov.
 
Caught this on DVD last night.

Good action movie that did not make the cinema in Oz. Had not heard of it until saw mentioned here.

Reb forgot to mention James Purefoy who is the lead role. He has previously missed out on getting the Bond role, was talked about as Flashman in a series to be produced by the Sharpe producers and was going to play Simon Templar in a new Saint TV series that did not go ahead.

Regards
Brett
 
Caught this on DVD last night.

Good action movie that did not make the cinema in Oz. Had not heard of it until saw mentioned here.

Reb forgot to mention James Purefoy who is the lead role. He has previously missed out on getting the Bond role, was talked about as Flashman in a series to be produced by the Sharpe producers and was going to play Simon Templar in a new Saint TV series that did not go ahead.

Regards
Brett

He also played Mark Antony in "Rome".

Martin
 
Saw this a few weeks back and definitely agree it was overall a good film. The only issue for me is that as mentioned before is that as Rochester Castle was made to look in such a remote location it didn't make sense why it was so important for King John to take it, as it looked like a very lonely outpost not worth the bother and with a garrison of only around 20 men.

The dane topdog was cool though he should have had more fight scenes!
 
This movie follows a familiar template that been around in films for decades..think 13th Warrior or even go back to the Magnificent seven.
A small band of warriors travel on horse back to some remote town,village,fort or castle to defend it!.
Now while some of the fights scenes were good in Ironclad it just felt like i had seen it all before....heck even the Saxon army reminded me of the one from the last King Arthur movie.
But its still worth watching.
 

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