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JJDESIGNS NEWS UPFATE 8th MARCH 2021
THE AGE OF ARTHUR
ANGLO SAXON/DANISH SHIELDWALL
THE BATTLE OF HASTINGS 1066

The Battle of Hastings took place on the 14[SUP]th[/SUP] October 1066. Although the numbers on each side were about equal, William had the advantage of having both cavalry, infantry and many archers.
Harold had only foot soldiers, and few archers. The English formed a shield wall along a ridge, and were initially so effective that the invading Norman army was repeatedly thrown back with heavy casualties.

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The battle opened with the Norman archers shooting uphill at the English shield wall, …to little effect.
The uphill angle meant that the arrows either bounced off the shields of the English or overshot their targets and flew over the top of the hill.
The lack of English archers actually hampered the Norman archers, as there were few English arrows to be gathered up and reused.
After the failed attack from the archers, William sent the spearmen forward to attack the Shieldwall. The infantry was unable to force any openings in the shield wall, which would have been taken advantage of by the supporting Norman cavalry.
A general retreat began, which was blamed on the Breton division on William’s left.
The English forces had already began to break their solid shieldwall defensive position on the left and pursue the fleeing invaders.

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In the battles between the Anglo-Saxons and the Danes in England, most of the Saxon army would have consisted of the inexperienced Fyrd, which was a militia composed of free peasants. The shield wall tactic suited such soldiers, as it did not require extraordinary skill, being essentially a shoving and fencing match with weapons.
The front ranks would have been made up of select warriors, such as Houscarls and Thegns, who carried heavier weapons and wore armour. However the vast majority of opponents in such battles were armed with spears, which they used against the unprotected legs or faces of their opponents. Often soldiers would use their weapons to support each other by stabbing and slashing to the left or the right, rather than just ahead. Short weapons such as the ubiquitous Seax, could also be used in the tight quarters of the wall.
Archery and thrown missiles were limited and occurred in opening stages of battles, but were rarely decisive to the outcome.

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Relatively lightly trained fyrdmen gained morale from being shoulder-to-shoulder with their comrades, but often fled once this was compromised. Once the wall was breached, or the commander was lost, it could prove difficult or impossible to re-establish a defensive line, and panic usually set in among the defenders.
Although the importance of the cavalry in the Battle of Hastings signaled the end of the shield wall tactic, massed shield walls would continue to be employed right up to the end of the 12[SUP]th[/SUP] Century, especially in areas that were unsuitable for large scale mounted warfare, such as Scandinavia, and Scotland.

Though there were attempts at outflanking or turning flanks there was basically an alarming absence of tactical sense. Once opposing shield walls collided it was merely might, determination and often numbers which decided the day, the loser generally suffering considerably in the rout.

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In the early Saxon period and as late as the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] century it was regarded as a disgrace for retainers to leave the field of battle alive if their lord had been killed, unless the victory was theirs. Such men as did were declared “nithing” and no longer existed in the eyes of the law. The heavy slaughter of Vikings at Stamford Bridge in 1066 was probably a result of many of the Vikings resolution to die with their king.

Saxon battle-cries recorded by the 12[SUP]th[/SUP] century historian Wace, which were supposed to have been used at Hastings were “Olicrosse” (Holy Cross), “Godamite” (God Almighty, and “Ut, Ut” (Out, Out). It is also recorded that there were two Saxon traditions when describing their battle formations. Whenever Kentish men accompanied the King in battle, theirs was the right to strike the first blow, and that it was also the right of Londoners to guard the King’s person and standard.

There are 10 new Anglo Saxon shield wall figures, which should be available the second half of this year.
Three of these figures were previewed previously.

These new figures will be especially welcome to those who have recently started to collect this series.


Best wishes and many thanks
john jenkins
 
What a treat:D The sculpts are absolutely fantastic, and very appreciated that all 10 figures seems to have different poses!

Niels
 
I'm definitely going to collect all of these to extend my shieldwall. I am hoping that John will offer each of these 10 figures in two different paint finishes. Just when you think it can't get any better . . . WOW!
👏 Mike
 
This line just gets better and better-great sculpts !
 
Looks great! By comparison, the JJD Saxon shield wall poses are much more realistic and dynamic than FL's Viking shield wall.

Joe
 
Dang, I've been resisting to buy any toy soldiers. These sculpts are excellent and drawing me in.
 
An excellent addition to what is a great series. I will be adding to my Alfred's warriors shield wall to stop the viking hordes. I am not too up on the clothing and the weaponry of the time, have read a lot about the battles and history of the time but have realised my knowledge on clothing and the weaponry as many on the forum, but i see no reason why these new figures cannot be used for King Alfred period! Any advise would be appreciated. I am building up my Saxon Fyrd, but think these new Houscarls and Thegns could add a bit backbone to the shield wall.
 
John Jenkins is the best thing that has happened to toy soldiers ever. I love these. Like Mike. E said I hope we get 2 paint jobs so I can have a bigger shield wall
 
John Jenkins is the best thing that has happened to toy soldiers ever. I love these. Like Mike. E said I hope we get 2 paint jobs so I can have a bigger shield wall

Agree, thnk John will if past releases are anything to go by.
 
Those are magnificent. John really has captured the brutality of war in that era. I wish that I could collect everything he does but alas no such luck. There is only so much space.
 
this particular grouping...
makes a very ominous obstacle for any combatants...

get my "point"?
 

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I'm definitely going to collect all of these to extend my shieldwall. I am hoping that John will offer each of these 10 figures in two different paint finishes. Just when you think it can't get any better . . . WOW!
👏 Mike
For me personally offering these 10 figures in two different paint finishes, does not hold a lot of attraction. I own every single Hastings figure including different paint finishes, and so far it has been making sense, so I could build a like size shieldwall on both sides of the command group. But as I understand it, these 10 new figures combined with the 7 figures previewed in the November 16th 2020 news update will constitute the breaking of the shieldwall line pursuing the fleeing Breton knights on the left wing of the Norman attack (November 16th and 23rd news updates), which was possibly a tactical feint by the Bretons.

Niels

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this particular grouping...
makes a very ominous obstacle for any combatants...

get my "point"?

Or maybe they are angry because they have had a bill throught the post because 'they've got mail'.

I know the above is stretching it, but so is the middle figure.
 
Ouch! Some of these puns make me want to post something political, just to close this thread. - Trust me, it would be for our own good. :wink2:
 
An impressively arrayed shield wall for sure :salute:: - Awesome even {eek3}

But I find it hard to accept that there would have been a kneeling front row of warriors. A very, very precarious position to fight in close up I would have thought - especially if armed with spears. Also taking into account the ebb and flow pushing of the opposing shield walls.

I know W Britain and First Legion also include kneeling figures in their shield walls but still........

These are exceptional figures and I will be adding them to my shield wall - just not the kneeling figures.

Roy
 
Ouch! Some of these puns make me want to post something political, just to close this thread. - Trust me, it would be for our own good. :wink2:

Yes they are PUNishing, i thought this threat would have been stopped anyway as there is way too much saxon violence on it.
 
An impressively arrayed shield wall for sure :salute:: - Awesome even {eek3}

But I find it hard to accept that there would have been a kneeling front row of warriors. A very, very precarious position to fight in close up I would have thought - especially if armed with spears. Also taking into account the ebb and flow pushing of the opposing shield walls.

I know W Britain and First Legion also include kneeling figures in their shield walls but still........

These are exceptional figures and I will be adding them to my shield wall - just not the kneeling figures.

Roy

They might have been kneeing to first protect from the barrage of arrows and spears, while also protecting the wall in a defensive position from peole getting too close if the enemy was attacking and could use the spear to stab at legs as the enemy walked or ran at the wall.
My PT instructors always used to tell us during training if he is a 'big bloke' take his legs away, the bigger they are the less they tend to protect their legs [ankles and knees]. To us a phase - sweep the leg.

Plus if it close on fighting it would have been difficult to get the spear jabbing down to the ground......

Just a thought.
 
To me they look as if the formation had been partially broken by a previous wave, and they're trying to pick themselves up and restore the integrity of the wall while another wave is just about to strike. The figures have a real sense of urgency in their body mechanics. In their desperation they are counter attacking from their partially restored formation rather than focusing on absorbing the force of the next wave.
Joe
 

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