mikemiller1955
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They swept the defending champs...they are a good home team...they are peaking...it could happen...
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They swept the defending champs...they are a good home team...they are peaking...it could happen...
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I hate Miami but they are playing great D. Dallas is playing 110% and Miami still got a big one last night. All the NBA detractors should be watching this series. Playing at the highest level. Dirk is a man possessed. It's going to be a bitter pill for the loser of this series.
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Till I read this thread a few months ago, I had no idea there was a team in OKC.I thought you guys were pulling my leg or it was an inside joke. I'm Waaay out of touch with this game. UFC is still game though I think some of those NBA players- Artest- could make a good run in the octagon. {sm4}
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Chris...the new NBA is like the old Soviet Union...I had a hard time understanding franchises in Memphis and OK City...
now...where the heck is Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan...^&grin
Doug...Dallas's "inside the paint defense" was non existant in the first half...barely visible in the second half...Wade and Lebron drove the lanes time and time again in the early part of the game...Dallas has their backs to the wall...like you...I also don't like Miami...Dallas must take the next two and hope for a split in Game 6 or 7...should be a fun watch though
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Another great game last night. Dallas picked it up when it counted. They look outmanned but are playing hard. Game 5 is huge. A must win for the Mavs. Even if they go back to Miami 3-2 it's going to hard to close out on the road. Wade is playing at another level. Even makes James look average.
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Didn't watch last night, but read this morning that Lefraud scored 8 points last night, though that was a typo; I guess not.
Wow, way to come up big Lefraud.
This 2-3-2 format is a joke as it's now 2-2 and if it were heading back to Miami, if the Mavericks win, they get a shot to win it at home, now as Doug pointed out, Miami even if they lose game 5 and are down 3-2, they get to go home, just like the Lakers did last year where they won it in seven, I see the same thing happening this year should this play out again.
Off to the Garden tonight for game 4 of the Stanley Cup Finals, a must win for the Bruins or they are toast, although the Canucks have shown me nothing this series other than they are a bunch of dirty cheap shot artists and divers...................
Wow, way to come up big Lefraud.
This 2-3-2 format is a joke as it's now 2-2 and if it were heading back to Miami, if the Mavericks win, they get a shot to win it at home, now as Doug pointed out, Miami even if they lose game 5 and are down 3-2, they get to go home, just like the Lakers did last year where they won it in seven, I see the same thing happening this year should this play out again.
Off to the Garden tonight for game 4 of the Stanley Cup Finals, a must win for the Bruins or they are toast, although the Canucks have shown me nothing this series other than they are a bunch of dirty cheap shot artists and divers...................
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Extremely happy to see Dallas win...
feels almost as good as I got from the feeling of the Big 3 losing...
Lebron and Wade should develop that fake cough a little better now...that video was just fuel for Nowitzki...
Miami and Reilly must be scratching their heads...I hope it turns into the Curse of the Bambino for them...
Lebron stays a loser...maybe someday...but not today...
the city of Cleveland must be very, very, very happy tonight...^&grin^&grin^&grin
feels almost as good as I got from the feeling of the Big 3 losing...
Lebron and Wade should develop that fake cough a little better now...that video was just fuel for Nowitzki...
Miami and Reilly must be scratching their heads...I hope it turns into the Curse of the Bambino for them...
Lebron stays a loser...maybe someday...but not today...
the city of Cleveland must be very, very, very happy tonight...^&grin^&grin^&grin
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This.
I tuned in several times tonight and each time Dallas was up several points.
Watched the last four minutes; cannot recall a more enjoyable 240 seconds.................ok Miami fans, you can go back to doing what you've been doing the past six years..............
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Seriously...I'm really glad Dallas won...they shut out my Lakers...so I feel just a pinch better that they proved they were the best this year...
Dan Gilbert...owner of the Cavs...
About 15 minutes after the Dallas Mavericks defeated James and the Miami Heat in Game 6 on Sunday night, Gilbert sent a message on his Twitter page to Mavericks owner Mark Cuban — a statement that included a jab at James.
“Congrats to Mark C.& entire Mavs org.,” Gilbert wrote. “Mavs NEVER stopped & now entire franchise gets rings. Old Lesson for all: There are NO SHORTCUTS. NONE.”
I think the Dallas parade is Wednesday...Cleveland's parade is Thursday...^&grin
Dan Gilbert...owner of the Cavs...
About 15 minutes after the Dallas Mavericks defeated James and the Miami Heat in Game 6 on Sunday night, Gilbert sent a message on his Twitter page to Mavericks owner Mark Cuban — a statement that included a jab at James.
“Congrats to Mark C.& entire Mavs org.,” Gilbert wrote. “Mavs NEVER stopped & now entire franchise gets rings. Old Lesson for all: There are NO SHORTCUTS. NONE.”
I think the Dallas parade is Wednesday...Cleveland's parade is Thursday...^&grin
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I don't follow the NBA, but I really thought what Lebron did to Cleveland stunk on ice. Plus Dirk Nowitski comes across as a really good guy. So I am thrilled for Dallas (where I lived for 4 years) and even more thrilled for Cleveland (they must have been celebrating almost as hard as Dallas last night).
I also flipped to the game on and off, and watched the last few minutes. It seemed like all Lebron and Wade did in the last few minutes was chuck up 3's that missed.
So much for Lebron being better than Jordan. What was Scotty Pippen thinking?
I will say one thing in Lebron's defense. Jordan always had other all-stars around him, like Pippen, Horace Grant and later Dennis Rodman. He was always one of a big three. Plus, that piece of garbage Stern changed the defensive rules to favor him every year until he started winning championships, because it made the league tons of money. The rule changes included banning hand checking, and making it an illegal defense to send a double team to Jordan if they isolated him on one side of the floor (allowing him to play one on one against whoever was defending him). He never faced a zone defense is his career. The key to defending and defeating Lebron and Wade was Dallas' very effective use of the zone defense, which forced them out of the lane, and made them rely on their jump shots. This was something not available to teams trying to defend Jordan.
Which is why, in my book, there is no way Jordan can be called the best of all time. That honor goes unquestionably to Wilt Chamberlain. Sure Jordan won more titles, but Wilt dominated despite rule changes meant to prevent him from dominating (like the league instituting the paint and the three second rule), and he was playing against the all time greatest team, the Celtics of the 1960's. Jordan never faced a team with as many all stars as his Bulls had, while Wilt went up against a team with five Hall of Famers pretty much every year (the Celtics year in and year out, and even the Knicks teams that won in 69-70 and 72-73 had five hall of famers as starters). Despite rule changes meant to slow him down, and it being him versus the Hall of Fame, he is still the only player to ever average 50 points for a full NBA season, and 30 rebounds for a full NBA season. Finally, to those people who say all that matters is championships, than the greatest player of all time can't be Jordon - it has to be Bill Russell. He won a bunch more titles than Jordan (about twice as many, if memory serves). So if Wilt's statistical domination of Jordon is outweighed by Jordan's 6 titles, then Jordan's 6 titles are trumped by Russell's 11 titles in 13 years.
I also flipped to the game on and off, and watched the last few minutes. It seemed like all Lebron and Wade did in the last few minutes was chuck up 3's that missed.
So much for Lebron being better than Jordan. What was Scotty Pippen thinking?
I will say one thing in Lebron's defense. Jordan always had other all-stars around him, like Pippen, Horace Grant and later Dennis Rodman. He was always one of a big three. Plus, that piece of garbage Stern changed the defensive rules to favor him every year until he started winning championships, because it made the league tons of money. The rule changes included banning hand checking, and making it an illegal defense to send a double team to Jordan if they isolated him on one side of the floor (allowing him to play one on one against whoever was defending him). He never faced a zone defense is his career. The key to defending and defeating Lebron and Wade was Dallas' very effective use of the zone defense, which forced them out of the lane, and made them rely on their jump shots. This was something not available to teams trying to defend Jordan.
Which is why, in my book, there is no way Jordan can be called the best of all time. That honor goes unquestionably to Wilt Chamberlain. Sure Jordan won more titles, but Wilt dominated despite rule changes meant to prevent him from dominating (like the league instituting the paint and the three second rule), and he was playing against the all time greatest team, the Celtics of the 1960's. Jordan never faced a team with as many all stars as his Bulls had, while Wilt went up against a team with five Hall of Famers pretty much every year (the Celtics year in and year out, and even the Knicks teams that won in 69-70 and 72-73 had five hall of famers as starters). Despite rule changes meant to slow him down, and it being him versus the Hall of Fame, he is still the only player to ever average 50 points for a full NBA season, and 30 rebounds for a full NBA season. Finally, to those people who say all that matters is championships, than the greatest player of all time can't be Jordon - it has to be Bill Russell. He won a bunch more titles than Jordan (about twice as many, if memory serves). So if Wilt's statistical domination of Jordon is outweighed by Jordan's 6 titles, then Jordan's 6 titles are trumped by Russell's 11 titles in 13 years.
Nail on the head, Louis. I can't count the number of times I have gotten into "best player of all time" discussions with people who refuse to recognize what Chamberlain did and what he meant to the NBA, mainly because they claim he didn't win enough championships. On an individual basis, Chamberlain was unstoppable. Now a days, when a player gets 20 rebounds in a game, it is praised as a great accomplishment (and should be), but few people know or remember that Chamberlain averaged 23 rebounds per game for his career! The great Bill Russell, another of my favorites, averaged 22.5 rebounds per game for his career. I haven't seen any players since their day that I would put in their category of greatness. As a matter of fact, it was the "Jordan Rules" instituted by the NBA that drove me away from the NBA and I have never gone back. -- Al