new range? WWII? (5 Viewers)

[lancer]

Any possibility that the key to the WW2 German period question could be the helmet and helmet cover? I am not a helmet expert but I seem to recall that helmet construction varied during the war. -- lancer

 

[Flammenpanzer]

I said Eastern Front since they appear to be wearing jackboots and the improvised camo on the helmet indicate very early on in the war and often seen in pictures from the eastern front. So it could be Poland, Russia, France, etc. As FL stated, they can be used anywhere since they are pretty generic Wehrmacht figures.

 

[Flammenpanzer]

I will find a place for them all no matter what front

 

[OzDigger]

The figs do look good in the pics and from what I see they would suit a number of European areas in WWII. However I am concerned about how they would fit into my present collection, especially if they have square bases etc. The estimated cost of around USD $47 for each figure makes them expensive imo, but only time will tell how well this new range is accepted by existing WWII collectors.

 

[fmethorst]

Any possibility that the key to the WW2 German period question could be the helmet and helmet cover? I am not a helmet expert but I seem to recall that helmet construction varied during the war. -- lancer

The lack of a right side decal on the uncovered helmet points to a 1940 or later model. There isn't enough detail to see whether it's a 1942 model. This is consistent with the apparent 1940 pattern field tunic.

http://www.german-helmets.com/HEER%20M1940%20Helmets.htm

 

[jrsteel]

I must say i am really looking forward to seeing these new figures from FL.The quality looks very good from the small pic i've seen and i would be happy to display these alongside the rest of my collection,and i have not been able to say that very often.

I just hope Matt ventures into British/US figures too.

Rob

I too hope FL will produce some US/British figures. If we just get more of the same - Nazi's, then that will be disappointing.

 

[Spitfrnd]

I too hope FL will produce some US/British figures. If we just get more of the same - Nazi's, then that will be disappointing.

Experience with their Napoleonic line indicates that all the significant
belligerents will be well represented.

 

[jrsteel]

Experience with their Napoleonic line indicates that all the significant
belligerents will be well represented.

That is true.I like how FL just doesn't do French and British figures for Napoleonics. So maybe we'll get the same type of variety for WW2.

 

[damian]

I think it is extremely arrogant - to maintain a decent tone - to say that a range doesn't sell without EVEN having seen a single figure in full!

Sorry, but that just makes me laugh! I prefer to read Mr Gambale's wish lists than such a blond comment!

FL's figures are different and appeal to a many of us. And time will tell if something sells or not.

Matt, I am sure that you will bring out figures that are up to the standards you made us used to...

And then.. Happy Collecting.

I am simply repeating what I have been repeatedly told that the Eastern Front is not a big seller. It seems odd because a lot of people keep asking for it and some of the K and C eastern front Stalingrad stuff from the early days are now sought after classics. I wish FL all the best. Matt brings out really cool looking figures so I am pretty sure the upcoming WWII stuff (if it is Eastern Front) will be really good.

 

[petebuster1]

I am simply repeating what I have been repeatedly told that the Eastern Front is not a big seller. It seems odd because a lot of people keep asking for it and some of the K and C eastern front Stalingrad stuff from the early days are now sought after classics. I wish FL all the best. Matt brings out really cool looking figures so I am pretty sure the upcoming WWII stuff (if it is Eastern Front) will be really good.

Firstly do have have the information on sales figures? and secondly not sure how something can be described as 'not a big seller' before its gone on sale???
FL figures are a different kettle of fish to K&C,I know nothings certain nowadays but i think the quality difference will come through and make them more popular in the long run.

 

[jazzeum]

You would have to ask K & C about whether or not it's a big seller. However, in their view, it's not and they don't believe the demand is there. The reason the old Stalingrad series brings some money on ebay because the amounts made were not high and the interest in old K & C today is high; supply and demand.

 

[damian]

Firstly do have the information on sales figures? and secondly not sure how something can be described as 'not a big seller' before its gone on sale???
FL figures are a different kettle of fish to K&C

Fair enough.
Maybe I should rephrase things.
I do not know how the series will sell.
I do not even know if it is the Eastern front as has been pointed out.
FL make some great looking Napoleonic stuff so I am pretty sure whatever they do release will be spectacular.
I just know that at all the talks Andy gives guys ask him about the Eastern Front and he says it does not sell. This does surprise somewhat me as the WInter 88 that K and C made about 10 years ago is now considered a classic and that series when it came out was marketed as Stalingrad. There were some Russians and a T-34. As I said I wish the new series well and hope that it is a great seller.

 

[petebuster1]

You would have to ask K & C about whether or not it's a big seller. However, in their view, it's not and they don't believe the demand is there. The reason the old Stalingrad series brings some money on ebay because the amounts made were not high and the interest in old K & C today is high; supply and demand.

That is true but i think the supply and demand cannot be properly established until its released and i would think Matt has done his homework before releasing anything.

 

[jazzeum]

When I meant supply and demand (and forgive me for being vague), I was referring to the old Stalingrad series, not anything FL may issue.

 

[petebuster1]

Theres little point discussing old issues and lines we'll just have to wait and see hows FLS do. We all know how fickle the collectable market can be but FL are producing something no one else does and thats real quality figures but unlike aeroart and other Russian figures at not OTT prices.Thats no disrespect to to K&C and others,it all depends whether you prefer quality or quantity

 

[damian]

Theres little point discussing old issues and lines we'll just have to wait and see hows FLS do. We all know how fickle the collectable market can be but FL are producing something no one else does and thats real quality figures but unlike aeroart and other Russian figures at not OTT prices

It does sound exciting

 

[jazzeum]

I was just clarifying a couple of points .

 

[Harrytheheid]

Wow....Aye-Yam Impressed.
That's four - yes folks - FOUR - intelligent, rational and honest posts in a row. (My apologies to any I've missed in my excitement).
Looks to me like the more perceptive and discerning collector now has a section of the forum where he/she can express their sincere and candid opinions without arousing the righteous wrath of the mob. The mob who's chief rabble rouser is presumably formulating additional underhand schemes following on from the recent unsuccessful attempt to sabotage legitimate business rivals. An attempt mind you, that was so transparent and crass, as to be around the same intellectual level as some elementary school student.

Regards
Harry

I dont think we really need to speculate on how well they will sell,thats really Matts department.If people want high quality painted realistic figures with excellent poses unlike most produced i think theres little doubt.Lets not forget other wwII figures produced by manufacturers are not great quality in comparison to what i know FL will produce.
I personally will only buy FL now apart from the odd other one here and there as the quality is better than anything else out there as these prices.
I suspect i'm not and wont be the only one,but i'll leave the business side to Matt.

Having been beaten over the head-verbally- that WWII are the most collected TS in the whole wide world-then I must ask is that WWII per se? or do certain theaters of the war not count?
I don't know.

However, what I think I do know is if the quality of these forthcoming figures are anywhere near the quality of Matt's Naps (and I am sure they will be) then I would bet all of my old dud Confederate dollars that any avid WWII collector worth his salt will at least give these figures some very serious consideration-surely? because if I was a khaki/olive drab/field grey collector I most certainly would.

Reb

I think it is extremely arrogant - to maintain a decent tone - to say that a range doesn't sell without EVEN having seen a single figure in full!

Sorry, but that just makes me laugh! I prefer to read Mr Gambale's wish lists than such a blond comment!

FL's figures are different and appeal to a many of us. And time will tell if something sells or not.

Matt, I am sure that you will bring out figures that are up to the standards you made us used to...

And then.. Happy Collecting.

How long will the Pacific and Eastern Front be unprofitable to produce or will it always be unprofitable?

Obviously it’s up for speculation and like many things, time will tell.

Is it possible though, that these themes may be more attractive and profitable if they were extremely well done, done in limited quantities and with a direct sales channel to the collector. Do you think it might work? Oh wait, that sounds like First Legion!

Carlos

 

[sammy719]

Anybody know what scale these WWII soldiers will be??...Sammy

 

[FirstLegion]

Anybody know what scale these WWII soldiers will be??...Sammy

I do.

Actually, we'll discuss the scale of the figures in more detail when we actually release including updating the scales page on our website with images with rulers and a comparison photo. Suffice it to say, those of you wanting to add these to your existing collections will be hard pressed to get them to fit in with what you may already have from other makers. They're just stylistically so different than what's already out there. You are of course free to do what you want, however, they'll work best when displayed in their own displays. You'll see why soon enough.

The flip side to this, of course, is that we'll give you everything you'll need to create complete displays in their entirety with only our products. So if you have aleady invested heavily in a WWII collection, not to worry, our releases are extremely specific and can easily be a sub-collection within a broader WWII collection.

Regards,

Matt
First Legion Ltd