Not Fun Anymore (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

Well, to come back full circle, if some people aren't having fun anymore, then maybe it's time for a break or a new hobby because if it isn't enjoyable then there's no point.

 

[Firebat]

Well, to come back full circle, if some people aren't having fun anymore, then maybe it's time for a break or a new hobby because if it isn't enjoyable then there's no point.

I think being without electric for as long as you have maybe you didnt get the gist of this thread. Those who stated they were not having fun anymore were referring to dragged out topics and dissension on the forum, not the hobby itself.

I am happy you finally got power back. I was closer than you to the area that was hit the hardest and I was only out for 5 days.

Also I know where you got that comment from you made about BSP....Please dont listen to him. Alex

 

[jazzeum]

Have you started looking for a generator yet. Generac is the name I keep hearing. That's two weeks I never, ever want to go through again.

 

[Firebat]

Have you started looking for a generator yet. Generac is the name I keep hearing. That's two weeks I never, ever want to go through again.

I have a 14,000 W Generec sitting alongside my house, it has been there for a month waiting for permits etc.

Yes it was frustrating having that sitting there and being without power. I have a guy who really knows his stuff . PM if you need info. Alex

 

[Al Fisher]

I must admit that I find the non-toy soldier threads distractinmg from the hobby, but that seems to be what a lot of people enjoy. Perhaps we should have a poll asking readers what they want.
It would be a shame if this site went away for lack of happy readers.

Bosun Al

 

[Simpson & his donkey.]

I am glad I started this thread and I hope it proves to you that Nick and I (BSP) participate here and elsware, including our own website, to try to help expand the hobby, to show different aspects of the hobby, but mostly to have fun.

Let me explain a specific objective of ours, which you may not be aware of. Everyone here is well informed about this hobby, and a few new members trickle in here and there. BSP has targeted the 1/35th scale modelers as our audience and have tackled the most difficult job of converting them. I can tell you after many years of hard work it is VERY slowly working.

How can I tell you this...I can tell you this through correspondence we receive through our websie. This is a distinct advantage for us, which we don't speak about much due to the sometimes hostile temperment here and for the fear of sounding like know it alls.

Why this approach.... The 1/35th crowd is huge compared to us and there are obvious similarities ( And Differences) . We are not huge and need to pull more people into this hobby to make it thrive. Also Nick and I are former modelers so we can relate to them, and we know where this hobby has to go to capture them

I have to bite my toung when I hear opinions that I know are off base, but I know the ropes around here now and I may hint about something I know about but I can say anything.

We have developed many other ties that we have to keep silent, but what counts is that we want this hobby to grow, we want all manufacturers and dealers to succede and whe have gotten feedback here and there our efforts have actually helped.

In closing what hurts is when we are attacked by those we are trying to help. I have an ultra calm temperment, but sometimes here it is pushed to the limit. I dont have the luxury of walking away from some important conversations, because if I can get my point accross it would be most helpful to our efforts, which are nothing but well intentioned for our hobby.

There is much much more, but without being to long winded I hope this gives you a general idea of what we are all about.

I know of no one else who is doing what we are doing and we do it for all of you. So for God Sake give us some credit. We spend a lot of money, time and effort, and all we want back is a strong hobby with a constant flow of products that please all of us and to keep the manufacturers and dealers strong through these tough times and beyond..


Sometimes it is NOT fun it is hard work


Regards
Alex

Yes we see that this has stirred up some emotions again. Having fun for some people and for me seem to be very differen't. I have gotten used to this over the years. Every one has the right to say what they feel and others should not send PM'S telling them this goes against the grain because it effects them in some way or the other mostly sales. The money asked for the products in this hobby is over the top so you should all ask questions about quality and accuracy . For me it now once again is becoming fun as I have got rid of excess baggage that was negative towards me. Take some time out and regroup your collecting habits and have fun again. Simmo.

 

[Firebat]

Take some time out and regroup your collecting habits and have fun again. Simmo.

A point well taken and after exhaustive study, that is exactly what I have been doing, but when I mentioned how I was PERSONALLY doing that, it stirred emotion, because I was eliminating most of a certain manufacturers products from my collection, due to "regrouping my collecting habits" to satisfy my PERSONAL preferences and to have fun.

So there appears to be a catch 22 here. This is a forum to freely share ideas, but you cant share some ideas ^&confuse. I would like to be more specific with what I just stated but I can't without drawing fire............ Catch 22 again.

Now someone tell me how I am off base with the statements I just made...And without being nasty.


One suggestion I always get is just shut up and do your dioramas.

I for one want to contribute positively here........................ show me how..................I will not take offense to any suggestions................ And maybe others will listen also. Alex

 

[Mitch]

Alex...

Who would leave the 1/35th scale hobby for this one? Tis hobby attracts people for many reasons but, probably one of the greatest is that you don't have to build and paint your own stuff. Many don't have the skill or, time to do this so, this hobby sorts that issue out.

I still have lots of friends in the 1/35th scale hobby and, speak with judges etc from shows across Europe regularly and, they don't see a drop in numbers. if anything they are now seeing a rise in people coming back to the hobby. Price is also a massive factor. 1/32nd scale kits of Heinkels and Owls are about £50 give or take to £350 or £2,000 give or take with much less detail. I know people will say different hobbies but, I just don't see people hanging up their 1/35th scale hobby or, whatever scale and migrating here.

Also, with the absolute detail you can get in kit form now and, the massive after sales market in add on parts for most kits the gulf between the two hobbies is as large. The link between the two is not as automatic for me as you suggest

I just don't think there is a big connection between the two hobbies. I know Figarti talked at one time of trying to bring that detail into this hobby but, what did they bring. I have seen some recoiling barrels and opening and closing hatches on mainstream releases. what extra detail do you think this hobby bring forth to releases?
Mitch

 

[Firebat]

Alex...

Who would leave the 1/35th scale hobby for this one? Tis hobby attracts people for many reasons but, probably one of the greatest is that you don't have to build and paint your own stuff. Many don't have the skill or, time to do this so, this hobby sorts that issue out.

I still have lots of friends in the 1/35th scale hobby and, speak with judges etc from shows across Europe regularly and, they don't see a drop in numbers. if anything they are now seeing a rise in people coming back to the hobby. Price is also a massive factor. 1/32nd scale kits of Heinkels and Owls are about £50 give or take to £350 or £2,000 give or take with much less detail. I know people will say different hobbies but, I just don't see people hanging up their 1/35th scale hobby or, whatever scale and migrating here.

Also, with the absolute detail you can get in kit form now and, the massive after sales market in add on parts for most kits the gulf between the two hobbies is as large. The link between the two is not as automatic for me as you suggest

I just don't think there is a big connection between the two hobbies. I know Figarti talked at one time of trying to bring that detail into this hobby but, what did they bring. I have seen some recoiling barrels and opening and closing hatches on mainstream releases. what extra detail do you think this hobby bring forth to releases?
Mitch

Mitch

Nick and I left the 1/35th scale hobby for this one, because we dont want to build and paint anymore. But you can do some painting, weathering and modifying. No, the detail level will never equal 1/35th products, but there are some outstanding products as of late. And there are compromises if you choose to switch.

Just yesterday we were contacted by two persons from our facebook page, after they saw our recent Thomas Gunn diorama. They wanted to know whose stuff that was. They were 1/35th scale modelers. They were very impressed and said they were buying the US Paras. We were also contacted from the Armchair Magazine Forum with a similar matter.

We have a very small hobby and we will continue to do what we can, even if we bring 5 people into our small hobby per year, it will help. Surprisingly we are getting a lot of corresopondence from Spain and Italy.

We build our scenes to a high standard, which gets their attention so they can relate, and we occasionally win them over.

Regards
Alex

 

[trooper]

I cannot believe what I am reading. What the devil is all this talk about diferent hobbies? It doesn't matter whether you collect painted figures, paint your own, have preference for 1/32nd, 1/30th, 1/35th or 1/72nd it is all part of the same hobby, namely military miniatures. Stop trying to "convert" people, let them enjoy their preferences, why should ANYONE impose their likes on to anyone else? If everyone sat back and was prepared to look at each others work, appreciate it and learn from it then the fun might return. If there is one fault with this forum it is that there is too much partisanship, broaden your horizons and enjoy the diversity. Trooper

 

[PanzerAce1944]

I must admit that I find the non-toy soldier threads distractinmg from the hobby, but that seems to be what a lot of people enjoy. Perhaps we should have a poll asking readers what they want.
It would be a shame if this site went away for lack of happy readers.

Bosun Al

I don't think that this forum is going anywhere in the near future. The current membership exceeds 2,600 members and continues to grow. As a whole if we all refrain from taking pot shots at each other and leave off the arguing
and enjoy the positive aspects of this forum as in viewing collectors Dioramas and pics of new releases, life would be that much more simple here :wink2:

 

[Mitch]

Alex...

I think when you show the stuff that's on sale in this hobby through your site it does not really advertise the products as they are. They are depicted in a scene where they are modified to the point where they are completely different to what is actually on offer. It would give those that look a false perspective of the hobby and what it offers.

I suppose its down to the level of skill the painters and builders from that hobby are at to what they would get from the products available. I don't know any of my friends in the model community that would stop what they are doing to come into this hobby. some of the most expensive kits in the model world are routine pricing in this one. How you can attract people with that factor?

I never left in the sense that you seem to be saying as I still build and paint models for myself and, for others and, I wonder what the numbers are for people who seem to do such a Alexandrian cut? would venture it has to be low. I buy stuff from this hobby but, still get things from other ranges that take my fancy so, I suppose I collect militaria than assign myself to a specific section of the hobby
Mitch

Mitch

Nick and I left the 1/35th scale hobby for this one, because we dont want to build and paint anymore. But you can do some painting, weathering and modifying. No, the detail level will never equal 1/35th products, but there are some outstanding products as of late. And there are compromises if you choose to switch.

Just yesterday we were contacted by two persons from our facebook page, after they saw our recent Thomas Gunn diorama. They wanted to know whose stuff that was. They were 1/35th scale modelers. They were very impressed and said they were buying the US Paras. We were also contacted from the Armchair Magazine Forum with a similar matter.

We have a very small hobby and we will continue to do what we can, even if we bring 5 people into our small hobby per year, it will help. Surprisingly we are getting a lot of corresopondence from Spain and Italy.

We build our scenes to a high standard, which gets their attention so they can relate, and we occasionally win them over.

Regards
Alex

 

[Firebat]

I think it is time to wrap this one up......I think we all would agree that everyone should pursue this hobby in a way that gives you the most enjoyment.