Not Fun Anymore (1 Viewer)

[Rob]

Fun is what you make it and if you look arguments you will find them. If you want to find enjoyment you will find that as well, in spades. Just look at Waynepoo's scenes.

Yes, this is a place for opinions but sometimes there can be too many. Arguments for arguments sake is not productive. Sometimes you have to know when no to say something and just let it go. Invariably, that will produce less friction, more enjoyment and a heightened degree of harmony.

Brad

Brad,

Very much agree, dios like Waynepoo's and Duke's are a fun part of this forum, I hope the Dispatches threads are also enjoyable, they are posted to try and get people talking and not arguing, some will not like and some will. There is lots to enjoy here and its a great place to share the hobby. The show pics from around the world are another hugely enjoyable aspect as well.

Rob

 

[jazzeum]

Rob,

Freedom is a wonderful thing but it also can be abused. I'm not suggesting we all become pollyannas but constant friction over time can be very wearing, especially when the issues are not new.

Brad

 

[Rob]

Rob,

Freedom is a wonderful thing but it also can be abused. I'm not suggesting we all become pollyannas but constant friction over time can be very wearing, especially when the issues are not new.

Brad

Yes I agree again mate, sniping between the same people really annoys others on here, as someone said yesterday time to move on (even if bridges cannot be built).

Hope the hotel is suiting you mate!{bravo}}

Rob

 

[jazzeum]

It beats a cold bed! Hoping for power today or tomorrow, god willing.

 

[Rob]

It beats a cold bed! Hoping for power today or tomorrow, god willing.

Well I very much hope it happens for you Brad.

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Brad...

first week I was on here as a member I posted a broken Chaffee I fixed and, a couple of repaints I had done at that stage of K&C. I received two e-mails from a long time member who was also personally very rude stating what I was doing was canablising fine products and, bringing the hobby in to disrepute. They stated we as in those who do such things make the forum poor!!! There was at that time a debate with one member about scale and, some detail issues with K&C and, I asked why he was not allowed to say what he wanted and, was told on open forum and, in a number of PM's this was an old topic and boring done to death and, when I had been on as long I would understand why and, that the member was ''known'' for his attacks on K&C. I was also told to be careful who I seemed to side with by three long term members.

So, that was my welcome to the forum. Your right about finding interesting things on here but, as a former mod and, long time member you will be well aware that the few rotten apples syndrome is not really right. It is a good forum for sure but, that's a flawed explanation. I think it would be nice to talk about LAH (for those interested) without the usual interruptions and, Nazi comments from members. those who like to talk scale and accuracy without someone taking offence because its seen as an attack on a fav manufacturer. look at Andy's recent difference of opinion thread where he ended with lighten up to collectors 17 deleted posts in a fun thread.

I openly admit to things I have contributed to and, probably should turn a eye to some that I respond to I just wish for the harmony you speak of others would also. Just seems its a bit of a one way street sometimes
Mitch

Fun is what you make it and if you look arguments you will find them. If you want to find enjoyment you will find that as well, in spades. Just look at Waynepoo's scenes.

Yes, this is a place for opinions but sometimes there can be too many. Arguments for arguments sake is not productive. Sometimes you have to know when no to say something and just let it go. Invariably, that will produce less friction, more enjoyment and a heightened degree of harmony.

Brad

 

[Firebat]

I am glad I started this thread and I hope it proves to you that Nick and I (BSP) participate here and elsware, including our own website, to try to help expand the hobby, to show different aspects of the hobby, but mostly to have fun.

Let me explain a specific objective of ours, which you may not be aware of. Everyone here is well informed about this hobby, and a few new members trickle in here and there. BSP has targeted the 1/35th scale modelers as our audience and have tackled the most difficult job of converting them. I can tell you after many years of hard work it is VERY slowly working.

How can I tell you this...I can tell you this through correspondence we receive through our websie. This is a distinct advantage for us, which we don't speak about much due to the sometimes hostile temperment here and for the fear of sounding like know it alls.

Why this approach.... The 1/35th crowd is huge compared to us and there are obvious similarities ( And Differences) . We are not huge and need to pull more people into this hobby to make it thrive. Also Nick and I are former modelers so we can relate to them, and we know where this hobby has to go to capture them

I have to bite my toung when I hear opinions that I know are off base, but I know the ropes around here now and I may hint about something I know about but I can say anything.

We have developed many other ties that we have to keep silent, but what counts is that we want this hobby to grow, we want all manufacturers and dealers to succede and whe have gotten feedback here and there our efforts have actually helped.

In closing what hurts is when we are attacked by those we are trying to help. I have an ultra calm temperment, but sometimes here it is pushed to the limit. I dont have the luxury of walking away from some important conversations, because if I can get my point accross it would be most helpful to our efforts, which are nothing but well intentioned for our hobby.

There is much much more, but without being to long winded I hope this gives you a general idea of what we are all about.

I know of no one else who is doing what we are doing and we do it for all of you. So for God Sake give us some credit. We spend a lot of money, time and effort, and all we want back is a strong hobby with a constant flow of products that please all of us and to keep the manufacturers and dealers strong through these tough times and beyond..


Sometimes it is NOT fun it is hard work


Regards
Alex

 

[Alex]

Hi Alex

I enjoy a lot many dioramas that you do but can you explain to me in detail what do you do (in PM) ?

Thanks

the other Alex

I am glad I started this thread and I hope it proves to you that Nick and I (BSP) participate here and elsware, including our own website, to try to help expand the hobby, to show different aspects of the hobby, but mostly to have fun.

Let me explain a specific objective of ours, which you may not be aware of. Everyone here is well informed about this hobby, and a few new members trickle in here and there. BSP has targeted the 1/35th scale modelers as our audience and have tackled the most difficult job of converting them. I can tell you after many years of hard work it is VERY slowly working.

How can I tell you this...I can tell you this through correspondence we receive through our websie. This is a distinct advantage for us, which we don't speak about much due to the sometimes hostile temperment here and for the fear of sounding like know it alls.

Why this approach.... The 1/35th crowd is huge compared to us and there are obvious similarities ( And Differences) . We are not huge and need to pull more people into this hobby to make it thrive. Also Nick and I are former modelers so we can relate to them, and we know where this hobby has to go to capture them

I have to bite my toung when I hear opinions that I know are off base, but I know the ropes around here now and I may hint about something I know about but I can say anything.

We have developed many other ties that we have to keep silent, but what counts is that we want this hobby to grow, we want all manufacturers and dealers to succede and whe have gotten feedback here and there our efforts have actually helped.

In closing what hurts is when we are attacked by those we are trying to help. I have an ultra calm temperment, but sometimes here it is pushed to the limit. I dont have the luxury of walking away from some important conversations, because if I can get my point accross it would be most helpful to our efforts, which are nothing but well intentioned for our hobby.

There is much much more, but without being to long winded I hope this gives you a general idea of what we are all about.

I know of no one else who is doing what we are doing and we do it for all of you. So for God Sake give us some credit. We spend a lot of money, time and effort, and all we want back is a strong hobby with a constant flow of products that please all of us and to keep the manufacturers and dealers strong through these tough times and beyond..


Sometimes it is NOT fun it is hard work


Regards
Alex

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Perhaps a separate section in the Diorama Accessories by Manufacturer where all of BSP's contributions can be concentrated so we don't have search all over the forum..

Terry

 

[Firebat]

Hi Alex

I enjoy a lot many dioramas that you do but can you explain to me in detail what do you do (in PM) ?

Thanks

the other Alex

I have to go out now and I will write everything here. But you can also get an idea by going to our website. You will see it it has a 1/35th flavor to capture that audience.

Then when I lay everything out, you better be ready for a long statement. You will see we are action not negative, sarcastic and empty words.


But there is a problem if I start listing our accomplishments, we will get accused of bragging or aggrandizing as Jazzeum puts it.

www.battlesceneproductions.net

 

[Lo1863]

This is all Obama's fault!

 

[ucla1967]

For better of for worse, scale invities hostiltity. However, it's not just scale but WW II in general, what many who frequent this board collect. Don't ask me why but you never see anything like this on the glossy threads, just collectors enjoying what other show. Since I have been a member (2005), WW II has alwasys seemed to create a lot of controversy. Maybe because the conflict is relatively recent in the history of the world. I really can't say.

The Treefrog Treasures Forum has always had a very strong matte, 60mm focus compared to the glossy, 54mm section. As I write this, there are 173 viewers of the matte section compared to 24 viewing the glossy section. I too have noticed that the fighting going on is overwhelmingly in the matte section; in fact, there are very few, if any, instances of arguing, back bitting, vitriolic comments, etc. in the glossy section. This hobby is suppose to be fun, a diversion from the trials and trivulatuions we all face in our daily lives. I wonder if the matte collectors, who are paying considerable sums of money for their figures, airplanes, and AFVs vis-a-vis the glossy collectors, don't have a more critical eye regarding scale, paint, price, accuracy, etc. than glossy collectors do, because of the money involved. I don't believe it has to do with World War II, per se, but I could be wrong. There are World War II glossy collectors, too, including me. I really don't know what the root cause of this difference is all about, but I am going back to my posting as many things as I can in the glossy section and continuing to avoid the matte section as much as possible, because it isn't fun anymore and that is a real shame.

 

[Peter Reuss]

Gents, we've now had a couple 'no fun anymore' type threads which have degenerated into accusations, fights, innuendos, and attacks. Maybe, just maybe, the time is come to look in a mirror instead of blaming everyone else. The subtle digs at each other are too much...give it up!

As a wise man once said...Keep it silly!

 

[Denver]

These threads are always entertaining.

 

[jazzeum]

These threads are indeed entertaining but it helps if some people are honest and desist from their constant self promotion.

 

[sammy719]

Not fun anymore??? I believe this forum is what you make it, I truly enjoy it and look forward to chating/ viewing pics/dios/ sports/books/metals/plastics and many more topics to choose from or to take part in or just read through, but as in everything else in life once there are more and more opinions/ideas etc, etc, there will always be disagreements, agruments,fights and so on, and ever since I joined this forum back in 2007 there have always been blow-ups, dust-ups or whatever you want to call them, and for the record alot of us have been down a thread or two and gotten our hands a little dirty, but that's part of being on a open forum, we will never all agree on everything about everything, I can live with that, but when it turns to smart *** comments/insults, "my collection is better then yours" that gets old and tiresome after awhile, so I guess it comes down to take it or leave it type of choice, I choose to enjoy this forum for what it is, a forum about a hobby I absolutely love, whether it be different scales/models/plastics/metals I really don't care, and having a toy soldier forum to talk all things toy soldiers is good enough for me, so yea there's plenty of fun in this forum sometimes you may have to dig a little deeper to find it...Sammy

 

[jazzeum]

Gents, we've now had a couple 'no fun anymore' type threads which have degenerated into accusations, fights, innuendos, and attacks. Maybe, just maybe, the time is come to look in a mirror instead of blaming everyone else. The subtle digs at each other are too much...give it up!

As a wise man once said...Keep it silly!

Yes, it would help if some would remember that this hobby is supposed to be fun instead of trying to promote their agendas.

 

[Firebat]

Yes, it would help if some would remember that this hobby is supposed to be fun instead of trying to promote their agendas.

Good point....I Agee.............................Check Mate {sm4}

 

[jazzeum]

Good point....I Agee.............................Check Mate {sm4}

Then why start a thread with the above title? That's the puzzler.

 

[Firebat]

Then why start a thread with the above title? That's the puzzler.

I don't have a problem... I am having fun doing dioramas and entering into discussions that are enjoyable to me, even if they are at times somewhat tedious.

The thread title is reflective of others saying it is not fun anymore, not me. I started this thread so we could all talk about it and maybe somehow sort it out.

I even thought we were making some progress. Alex