Purchasing "job-Lots" (1 Viewer)

As most of the pics in this thread have been held hostage by the Company that is kindly storing them for me ( for free), unless I go from free, to circa $500 per annum! - I have liberated a few back into my own storeage facility - and am reposting some of the nicer ones - using our kind benefactor's method ( thanks Pete). jb

At least you can perhaps make sense of some of the thread - that is now without pics at all. jb

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These are really nice toy soldiers. Sommerset?

No KV. Very unfortunately - the whole thread would have explained exactly what each of the figures were - as I explained (with pics) all the way through. Unfortunately, I was another of the victims of the Photobucket ultimatum - which I do NOT wish to take-up! So all of my original pics have now disappeared - and it's just impossible to read through now - without the pics to help explain.

This lot were all originally, from a job-lot of broken soldiers to begin with - most of which were old British hollowcasts. As usual, I repaired each one using spare parts mainly from Dorset or my stash of bits and pieces - and in the process found that some of them were actually amateur re-casts of old Britains figures ( the two Scots Greys), whilst most of the others were also Britains - and a few were really old (pre-WW2).

So..... all are old repaired hollowcasts ( except for the two copies), KV. BUT - just goes to show that with a few tweaks and a little TLC ( and a new paint job) - they can look brand-new all over again, eh?;)

Thanks - and cheers buddy. :D jb
 
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I think I'll re-start this thread with a picture of what's currently passing through my hands for repair - from a variety of "job-lots" which I have purchased over the past couple of months.

The pic (attached below) shows several pieces - which I'll identify - and explain what is happening with each of them.

At rear left is a Britains WW1 mounted Cavalryman in steel helmet. He came to me with just a missing arm and a few holes to fill - so an easy one to fix up - I will be giving him an arm with sword at the carry. As usual - I give all mounted figures a good solid stand (base).

Next along is a Mule from the Mountain Artillery set - first produced way back in 1893. This specimen arrived minus the lower part of all four legs and an ear missing. I repaired the legs with spare parts from Dorset Model Soldiers - and made an ear to match his surviving one by carving it out of the top part of a spare leg - finishing off by filing. He's now ready to paint.

Next is a Britains mounted Huntsman figure (No.608). He came minus both left side horse legs, a hole in his bowler hat and missing whip arm. More spares from dorset soon fixed him up - and he's my first completed figure from this batch. I have two dogs in my stash to repair which will go with him when completed.

Next along is another Britains mounted figure - which is an early Mounted Officer from the Mounted Artillery set, once again - as did the mule. He had various holes in the body of the horse - which are on the other side shown (Sorry!). Otherwise okay - he's a rare survivor in this condition.

To the left front is my first (of six) Lucotte figures - now nearly completed - by adapting Dorset spare parts ( made to repair Britains, really) and made to fit. So really he's a conversion - but with original Lucotte head - and two Dorset arms. Why on Earth anyone would "junk" six damaged lucotte figures into a "job-lot", beats me - but Hey!, I shouldn't complain!!!{sm4}

To his right - is an interesting pair of figures. Standing up - is a Britains British "Tommy in a gas-mask" Available from 1937 - 1940, he is older tha me! This figure, and the partial figure lying next to him - is a good example of a "Donor Figure" - as one arrived without legs - but had his head - and the other had legs - but no head. I removed the good legs and stand (base) from the one with no head (shown lying down) and grafted his legs onto the other who hadb a head ( hope that's clear). I'm currently waiting for an arm with rifle at the trail to complkete him. I'll also keep the other parts - justb in case another of these old and getting quite scarce figures, ever comes my way again.

Next to him is a Britains Pilot - currently without a head - which is on order. Note that he also had no feet when he arrived - but I gave him a pair of boots and a new stand which was also missing - once again boots came from Dorset - which I took off a stand by surgery - and pinned into his hollow legs. Once head arrives - he'll be good for airborne duties once again.

Next see two Britains NZ Infantry in Service Dress - both from set 1542 (1937-1959). These are the later ones with larger head and hat - so probably from the Fifties. Once again - no feet - and left arms missing - which should hold rifles at the slope. Again, I've repaired the feet and made up a new stand - so at least one can now stand up again. (More boots on order for the second figure, as well as arms with rifles).

John Hillco airman with spanner is next - and once more - another donor figure lies at his feet. This time the head of the prone figure was removed and fitted to the standing figure - the paint on his head conveniently disguises the joint. ( I'm rather pleased with how this one came out!).

The Base Drummer - was a nightmare figure - but so old - I kust had to fix him up again. He's by REKA - which was in business from 1908-1932 - so this guy COULD be around 100 years old - and boy, did he look it!!! He had no head, no feet, no drum-stick - and holes all over the place. This time I found an old head in spares box - which looks similar to his original ( picture in one of my books by Joplin). I pinned his legs to a new stand - and made up some new boots with Milliput. Same for the holes in bodywork - whilst his new drum stick is a piece of cut paper-clip and a ball of Milliput.

There are two prone machine-gunners to the front - only one having the complete gun. I gave him a new tin-hat from the casualty figure shown to his left - which was hanging off when he arrived. He's another donor figure now - so will use him as a spare parts figure from now non. Note the other gunner with no gun or head. I'm now looking for a spare machine gun to turn up - but am getting a "soft-cap" head for him in the meantime.

So.......that's about where I am with this current batch - though I have around Eighty-odd others stashed away for some future time - and this number seems to grow almost every month!!!

Great Fun:D:salute:: jb
 

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Wow! That'll keep you busy for a while, John!

Prost!
Brad


Writing out my list of "spares" right now Brad. These are "bits at a time" pieces - not sets - so they will fill in when painting projects are waiting for something to set - or paint to dry. jb
 
While I don't buy many joblots, I've been converting toy soldiers for over 25 years and agree with Johnny that there's a lot of satisfaction from creating a figure from junk . . . particularly when you've added bits and bobs to come up with something new. Hope you continue to kitbash and post!

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While I don't buy many joblots, I've been converting toy soldiers for over 25 years and agree with Johnny that there's a lot of satisfaction from creating a figure from junk . . . particularly when you've added bits and bobs to come up with something new. Hope you continue to kitbash and post!

Bosun Al

Couldn't agree more Al, it's very satisfying. The more so with this particular French manufacturer - as Lucottes seem to be ALWAYS expensive. I think I've found at why as well. I tried the shop of the current owners of the brand - in Paris - by e-mail, and they weren't interested in helping out with spare parts at all. They simply don't do them. I tried another restorer in Paris too - but they just never replied at all.

What I have found - in no small part thanks to Dave - is that Britains type of spare part - can be made to fit beautifully - and I couldn't be more pleased with the way my first repair has come out - and all for peanuts too!

My spares list for more parts has gone in today - so I'll continue "kitbashing" for as long as I'm able, Al - and I'll show you how I get on, along the way.

Cheers buddy - jb
 
Okay - the repairs continue. Next up, are four mounted figures from Britains again. You may be able to see from the attached pic below - that there are two more Hussars - soon destined to join my favourite Regiment - the 11th (Cherry Pickers). Note that both had the same rear right horse leg missing - so, of course were unable to stand up. A simple pinning job soon fixed them up - and both now stand beautifully. I will be making "stands" (bases), for all of them BTW. Note also that the rear of the two had an old spare head attached to the body - as it was also missing in action somewhere in his past life.

Far left - is a bit of a rarity - as he is from the ACW period. He's a US Officer - which can be painted as either Union or Confederate sides - from set 2056 which were made from 1951-1966. You can probably see that Britains based him on the Indian Cavalry series - but replaced the turbaned head with a kepi. He was in a sorry state when he turned up - as all four horse legs were snapped off around the knee - and tail was also missing. Look carefully - and you can see the joints where I have pinned replacement legs in. Tail is done exactly the same way. He's still missing an arm - which is on order from Dorset, once again.

My last of the four is yet another scarce figure. he is a French Officer on a cantering horse - who has done duty as a Zouave Officer, also led Turcos Soldiers, and in Picture pack 1329B - he was in the French Foreign Legion - which is how I will paint him. His horse has three new legs and a new scabbard fitted - which was also snapped off. He's still missing the loose arm ( notice how they are almost always missing????), which again, is on order. Notice also the white repair at the top of his boot. This is a milliput filled hole - which will be sanded back when dry.

Once arms with swords arrive and I've given each a tailor made stand (pinned to the horse's feet) - repairs can be quickly completed - and painting can commence. jb

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Every now and then, a figure turns up (usually from one of my favourite Regiments), that just demands immediate attention. Regardless of what I'm doing at the time - they seem to say "See to me NOW!"

One such figure turned up in my last "job-lot". He was a Britains Royal Scots Grey Officer on a cantering horse - who was sadly missing most of the rear right leg - and his rider, familiarly, missing the "loose arm" ( you know - the ones I dislike so much - as they invariably come off - and then get lost!). The figure couldn't stand up.

Now, as I was getting a bit low on spare parts - I had neither of the two missing parts required for a quick repair.

So.......I found another slightly larger leg - which I thought I might adapt - and some bits and pieces from which I managed to fabricate the outstretched arm required by this figure. ( I cut and pinned together three pieces of arms/ sabre I had in my spares box ). If you look closely, you can maybe see that the outstretched arm is "not quite right".

Anyhoo.............. I fitted the horses leg - and then mounted him on his new made to measure stand - and............had a pleasant surprise. Due to the leg being just a tad too large - the horse's front legs didn't sit on the base, as they should - but gave the impression of a slight rearing of the steed - which I quite liked. So, instead of removing and cutting down slightly - I left it as it was, and then continued with the fix and re-paint.

You may also notice that I fixed the familiar errors made by the Old Britains Company - as I removed the clipped off carbine and scabbard from the side of the horse - and also the sword handle in the scabbard on the other side of the horse - as the figure is already holding his sword in his outstretched arm (presumably, he wasn't carrying two!). This is a relatively easy fix - and just requires the offending parts being removed by surgery, and then repairing any small holes before repainting.

And here'e the result. Hope you like him too. jb

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Every now and then, a figure turns up (usually from one of my favourite Regiments), that just demands immediate attention. Regardless of what I'm doing at the time - they seem to say "See to me NOW!"

One such figure turned up in my last "job-lot". He was a Britains Royal Scots Grey Officer on a cantering horse - who was sadly missing most of the rear right leg - and his rider, familiarly, missing the "loose arm" ( you know - the ones I dislike so much - as they invariably come off - and then get lost!). The figure couldn't stand up.

Now, as I was getting a bit low on spare parts - I had neither of the two missing parts required for a quick repair.

So.......I found another slightly larger leg - which I thought I might adapt - and some bits and pieces from which I managed to fabricate the outstretched arm required by this figure. ( I cut and pinned together three pieces of arms/ sabre I had in my spares box ). If you look closely, you can maybe see that the outstretched arm is "not quite right".

Anyhoo.............. I fitted the horses leg - and then mounted him on his new made to measure stand - and............had a pleasant surprise. Due to the leg being just a tad too large - the horse's front legs didn't sit on the base, as they should - but gave the impression of a slight rearing of the steed - which I quite liked. So, instead of removing and cutting down slightly - I left it as it was, and then continued with the fix and re-paint.

You may also notice that I fixed the familiar errors made by the Old Britains Company - as I removed the clipped off carbine and scabbard from the side of the horse - and also the sword handle in the scabbard on the other side of the horse - as the figure is already holding his sword in his outstretched arm (presumably, he wasn't carrying two!). This is a relatively easy fix - and just requires the offending parts being removed by surgery, and then repairing any small holes before repainting.

And here'e the result. Hope you like him too. jb

Great work jb !

Probably my 'olde eyes'...however in the picture where you can see both arms, I do not notice a difference.

Regarding the horses legs...'most' living things has a little variation from perfect...again not noticeable (by me anyway).

Beautiful figure...I see your new 'place' has not affected your abilities.

Thank you for posting.
 
Great work jb !

Probably my 'olde eyes'...however in the picture where you can see both arms, I do not notice a difference.

Regarding the horses legs...'most' living things has a little variation from perfect...again not noticeable (by me anyway).

Beautiful figure...I see your new 'place' has not affected your abilities.

Thank you for posting.

It's where the cuff meets the hand where it isn't correct - and it's a tiny difference - but I know it's there. I have a couple of spares now - but at the time, I just couldn't wait - so made the arm up. Good that you can't see the difference though!:D Here's a pic below (not one of mine) which shows how the arm/hand/sword should look like.

Where there are joins in the metal - a lttle Milliput goes a long way - and when dry and painted, it is often difficult - if not impossible to see the join.

I'm happy to report that I have a spare room of my own, once again - and a double width desk again ( under a window), so can "breathe" again. Just as messy though, I'm happy to say!{sm2}

Glad you like him - I now have a couple more Britains headless mounted cantering horse figures - and ( not by coincidence) a couple of Scots Grey "heads" in my latest order - so I think that a couple more Troopers will find their way into my cabinet before very long.


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It's where the cuff meets the hand where it isn't correct - and it's a tiny difference - but I know it's there. I have a couple of spares now - but at the time, I just couldn't wait - so made the arm up. Good that you can't see the difference though!:D Here's a pic below (not one of mine) which shows how the arm/hand/sword should look like.

Where there are joins in the metal - a lttle Milliput goes a long way - and when dry and painted, it is often difficult - if not impossible to see the join.

I'm happy to report that I have a spare room of my own, once again - and a double width desk again ( under a window), so can "breathe" again. Just as messy though, I'm happy to say!{sm2}

Glad you like him - I now have a couple more Britains headless mounted cantering horse figures - and ( not by coincidence) a couple of Scots Grey "heads" in my latest order - so I think that a couple more Troopers will find their way into my cabinet before very long.


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Easier to show you the two latest figures - who are at an early stage of repair. I show the Officer at the rear - so that you can see a "before and after" effect. The officer figure was in a slightly better condition than these two - who didn't have heads when found. (All spares are from Dorset - as usual). Also note the repairs to legs ( different colour metal shows up as silver for the new parts). One figure needed three legs - as you can see. Also note a new scabbard to one figure and Milliput joints - which show up as white. These get filed/sanded back - when dried out. No loose arms once again - but I have plenty of spares in my stash to give them later on. jb

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Here's another pic - this time showing a few British Tommies in action. I've also included a few more bits and pieces - to give an insight into how some of these figures first arrive - and some bits and pieces which may help illustrate how some get repaired.

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All three fixed-up figures are Britains - and probably the most striking figure - is the mounted Tommy - at the rear. He's now clearly a Lancer from WW1 - but he began as a figure with tin-hat head - but no arm. He was a bit of a puzzle - until I found an illustration of him in James Opie's "British Toy Soldiers - 1893 to the present - An Illustrated Refererence Guide for Collectors"; (Plate 48 - fig.22) . He began life in 1940 as a US soldier, apparently. With an arm change to one holding a lance - (see another spare in front of him), I made him into a British Lancer, circa 1916 - about the time steel helmets began to be issued - to replace the soft caps which were inadequate to protect soldiers. He's now really a conversion - to a soldier that Britains never made.

See also my prone firing machine gunner - and the other two in various states of damage. My recently completed guy - came in without a head - like one of the others - but at least had the machine gun intact. I fitted him up with a steel helmet head ( see another such spare head close by). He is now a WW1 machine-gunner circa 1916. I'll keep the others - until I find a suitable gun to repair them too. I will fix up the one with the soft-cap first - as he will pre-date my 1916 gunner, nicely.

Then there is my British Tommy in a gas mask with rifle at the trail (originally from set 258 - issued in 1928. This old figure is also much repaired - with parts from a donor figure - as he originally had no legs from the knees down ( and also rather obviously, no base). Another such figure with no head and only partial shoulders - donated his intact legs and base - so that I could make up one intact figure from two damaged ones.

I've also shown - off to the right - two partial figures. The one at top of pic, (Crescent) has no head or feet. The one closer to front (Crescent again) preparing to throw a grenade, was in the same condition - but now has a new steel helmet head - and some feet which were cut from a spare-part base
(like the one shown next to him). I'll be fitting him up with a base in due course - prior to repainting him. His chum with rifle and bayonet ( astonishingly still intact!) will get the same head/feet treatment too.

Many such WW1 figures can be found at quite reasonable prices in either job-lots, or at swap-meets etc., and can be a good source of repairable figures - or even donor figures for spare parts - to be used to repair others - and along the way - be a whole heap of fun for the repairer too, at very reasonable cost.

Make you think???? ;) jb
 
...probably the most striking figure - is the mounted Tommy - at the rear. He's now clearly a Lancer from WW1 - but he began as a figure with tin-hat head - but no arm. He was a bit of a puzzle - until I found an illustration of him in James Opie's "British Toy Soldiers - 1893 to the present - An Illustrated Refererence Guide for Collectors"; (Plate 48 - fig.22) . He began life in 1940 as a US soldier, apparently...

Y'know, when I first saw your post, John, my thought was that he could serve very well as a US cavalryman, too, with a saber instead of the lance. Either way, I agree with you, he's a striking figure! You need to add a couple more and make a squad ;)

Prost!
Brad

A PS-speaking of US cavalry with the tin hat, it reminds me of the old Warren Lines figures, too. Warren produced excellent US cavalry in the Britains style, and in pre-WWII khaki and campaign hats or tin hats. Warren had a limited production life, and the figures are relatively rare today.
 
Y'know, when I first saw your post, John, my thought was that he could serve very well as a US cavalryman, too, with a saber instead of the lance. Either way, I agree with you, he's a striking figure! You need to add a couple more and make a squad ;)

Prost!
Brad

A PS-speaking of US cavalry with the tin hat, it reminds me of the old Warren Lines figures, too. Warren produced excellent US cavalry in the Britains style, and in pre-WWII khaki and campaign hats or tin hats. Warren had a limited production life, and the figures are relatively rare today.

I wish, Brad. I really like Lancer figures - and I have been after a WW1 example for a long time. He's my first with the slung lance too.

So........when this figure just turned up in one of my job-lots, he had Lancer written all over him. I would love for some more to come my way too - but that's just the luck of the draw with this sort of purchase. You get - what you get and be thankfulif, like this one, that he's repairable!

There's a bit of past history in my family with "tin-hats" - or should I say the lack of them in the early years of WW1. My paternal Grandfather was badly injured in the head around in 1915, from shrapnel - which (thankfully), at least took him out of the war. He was in The Royal Horse Artillery - wearing the soft cap at the time. [ Steel shrapnel helmets came in around 1916]. He spent a long time in hospital - and never went back into service, as he had a metal plate inserted in the hole left in his head! He died in his fifties from it - as a result, when his son - my Father - was just 14 years old - so I never ever had chance to meet him. I don't even have a picture of him.

I'm a fan of steel helmets, as a result - and many of Britains examples of soldiers in them are pretty well sought after by collectors too.

I've never come across Warren figures, Bread - but if you like 'em - I'm sure I would too. jb
 
Yet another dip into the lucky-bag, produced this flying Johnnie. He was a Pilot from Crescent Toys originally - but came to me as a Torso only. No feet and no head! He also had a bullet hole in his back! Yikes! He's had a bit of a prang then, somewhere along the line

Feet weren't a problem - as I cut these off a replacement stand from Dorset. They can be made to fit a variety of subjects - as you can file them to shape and drill out legs to accept them as a plug-in part. I couldn't get a head with goggles up on the leather flying helmet - but this was the next best thing to the original, so goggles down it was to be. A bit of putty fixed up his bullet hole a and the feet and head were fitted on.

I've put him in front of his Spitfire ( an old plastic model - given to me by a pal), just to set the scene a bit.

Tally-ho chaps!:salute::

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The latest repair - was to the figure shown below - which was a Britains French Mounted Officer.

When found - he was missing the usual "loose" arm - and his horse was missing his complete front left leg - so couldn't stand up.

After fixing the gaping hole left in the horse - where it looked as if the leg had been torn off - I replaced the entire leg with a Dorset spare and fixed him to a fabricated stand. The arm with sword came from my spares box - and from then on he was just a repaint.

I've tried to paint him as a Senior French Foreign Legion Officer - but might have a few details left to do - as it has been incredibly difficult to find a good picture of such a figure.

Here he is ( for now).

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Now, you've seen my repaired mounted Fox-hunter before - but you haven't seen two of the fairer sex hunters before. I have added them in to my scene - as I will have a few more figures to add in - once I have repaired them too.

As Oscar Wilde once put it - referring to this "sport" - "The unspeakable, pursuing the uneatable"

BUT.....not yet.....

These two hunting ladies were "repaired" - by simply returning the lost arm with whip - which, as is usual with loads of old Britains, was missing when found. I shouldn't really complain - as if they still had them - I wouldn't be able to buy them up - and fix 'em up.:D Britains originally painted them with dark and light jackets - so I have done the same for my two ladies

The "arm with whip" comes as yet another Dorset spare part - and simply pops back into place - for a mere 50 pence each. I always fix arms back in place with a glue and putty joint, which hides the ugly original rivet joint completely. Just doesn't move any more ( or get lost again!).:cool:
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