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Hey guys-

I have been thinking about posting a thread like this for awhile so here goes. Here are some thoughts I would like to share in an attempt to increase fairness and goodwill and harmony at our toy soldier shows. I am by no means trying to dictate or codify some kind of rules for behavior- just simply wanted to put a sounding board out there for all to consider. I would be interested to hear from our friends across the pond as to what might consist of good manners at the shows overseas.

My thoughts:

1.) "Do not touch"- if a vendor has that sign posted all over their table....in whatever form...in whatever language... be courteous and at a minimum ask. Human hands have oils on them which could smudge or weaken some paints (though I hear it actually helps glossies). I always carry a magnifying glass and use it to view detail and avoid offending said vendor.

2.) Keep the language clean- be respectful of families and the fair sex.....

3.) Deodorant- can be an attendee's best friend whilst at a show during a hot weekend. Feel free to apply amply. Toothpaste isn't a bad idea either. {sm3} Heavy booze or smoke smell can be a distraction. Try not to break wind too!! {sm4}

4.) Don't expect a discount from a vendor- look, we work hard for our wages and wouldn't dream of giving our employers 10% back- these folks work hard for their money- don't ask for a discount, if they offer, then take it but let them make the offer. Some companies have rules prohibiting selling at a discount so your pressures for pinch pennies may cost someone their livelihood......

5.) Vendors- sellers don't owe you a living- treat us with respect. Not everyone can afford the items from your table. Some folks are curious- don't pressure people into sales when you think they might be over extended.

6.) Try not to crowd- the tables are getting smaller (or maybe our waistlines are expanding ^&grin). I have seen where some collectors unknowingly block access to vendors tables by standing around talking, etc and the vendor looses a potential customer because they loose patience waiting for some space. Move to the side if/when you finish conducting business so others can enjoy.

7.) thicken the skin- there are a wide variety of topics and a wide variety of opinions and "experts" {sm4} present at shows. I have been at fault here of getting sucked into p-***ing contests with some collectors over my views and theirs. This can create a difficult scene for nearby vendors and possibly yourself. Try to maintain some composure....try at least {sm3}

8.) If someone is looking to buy a set/figure etc from a vendor, please DO NOT interject that you saw it cheaper from someone else or that you have one in your collection that you could sell them cheaper. This ain't cool.

9.) Tip the barmaid!! 15 quid is all she asks for!! {sm4}{sm3}

10.) if a vendor offers to hold an item for you, may not be a bad idea to get a receipt- some nasty scrapes I have seen where a buyer thinks he left something with a vendor and the vendor doesn't have everything. Also, a vendor can hold something for you but don't expect him/her to provide absolute insurance against something accidentally happening to something fragile or expensive. I know they will do their best but stuff happens. If you buy something fragile or delicate, then maybe it is a better idea to take the time and secure it in your room/car, etc.

11.) Don't gossip- don't bad mouth a vendor or dealer about someone else- it's a very small community!! {eek3} Also, don't just assume that a vendor won't help you if something is broken- don't hesitate to ask. If you don't get the service you want, talk with your wallet and don't deal with them again. Lastly, a vendor doesn't want to hear your problems- they aren't your therapist.

Alright, those are some do's/don't's I can think of. Remember, we are all ambassadors for the hobby. Have fun and let's enjoy this hobby of ours!!
 
Hey guys-

I have been thinking about posting a thread like this for awhile so here goes. Here are some thoughts I would like to share in an attempt to increase fairness and goodwill and harmony at our toy soldier shows. I am by no means trying to dictate or codify some kind of rules for behavior- just simply wanted to put a sounding board out there for all to consider. I would be interested to hear from our friends across the pond as to what might consist of good manners at the shows overseas.

My thoughts:

1.) "Do not touch"- if a vendor has that sign posted all over their table....in whatever form...in whatever language... be courteous and at a minimum ask. Human hands have oils on them which could smudge or weaken some paints (though I hear it actually helps glossies). I always carry a magnifying glass and use it to view detail and avoid offending said vendor.

2.) Keep the language clean- be respectful of families and the fair sex.....

3.) Deodorant- can be an attendee's best friend whilst at a show during a hot weekend. Feel free to apply amply. Toothpaste isn't a bad idea either. {sm3} Heavy booze or smoke smell can be a distraction. Try not to break wind too!! {sm4}

4.) Don't expect a discount from a vendor- look, we work hard for our wages and wouldn't dream of giving our employers 10% back- these folks work hard for their money- don't ask for a discount, if they offer, then take it but let them make the offer. Some companies have rules prohibiting selling at a discount so your pressures for pinch pennies may cost someone their livelihood......

5.) Vendors- sellers don't owe you a living- treat us with respect. Not everyone can afford the items from your table. Some folks are curious- don't pressure people into sales when you think they might be over extended.

6.) Try not to crowd- the tables are getting smaller (or maybe our waistlines are expanding ^&grin). I have seen where some collectors unknowingly block access to vendors tables by standing around talking, etc and the vendor looses a potential customer because they loose patience waiting for some space. Move to the side if/when you finish conducting business so others can enjoy.

7.) thicken the skin- there are a wide variety of topics and a wide variety of opinions and "experts" {sm4} present at shows. I have been at fault here of getting sucked into p-***ing contests with some collectors over my views and theirs. This can create a difficult scene for nearby vendors and possibly yourself. Try to maintain some composure....try at least {sm3}

8.) If someone is looking to buy a set/figure etc from a vendor, please DO NOT interject that you saw it cheaper from someone else or that you have one in your collection that you could sell them cheaper. This ain't cool.

9.) Tip the barmaid!! 15 quid is all she asks for!! {sm4}{sm3}

10.) if a vendor offers to hold an item for you, may not be a bad idea to get a receipt- some nasty scrapes I have seen where a buyer thinks he left something with a vendor and the vendor doesn't have everything. Also, a vendor can hold something for you but don't expect him/her to provide absolute insurance against something accidentally happening to something fragile or expensive. I know they will do their best but stuff happens. If you buy something fragile or delicate, then maybe it is a better idea to take the time and secure it in your room/car, etc.

11.) Don't gossip- don't bad mouth a vendor or dealer about someone else- it's a very small community!! {eek3} Also, don't just assume that a vendor won't help you if something is broken- don't hesitate to ask. If you don't get the service you want, talk with your wallet and don't deal with them again. Lastly, a vendor doesn't want to hear your problems- they aren't your therapist.

Alright, those are some do's/don't's I can think of. Remember, we are all ambassadors for the hobby. Have fun and let's enjoy this hobby of ours!!


Sure you didn't forget anything??
 
Shouldn't number 9 be after number 11 i don't think it would be a good idea going to the BOOZER before the show,well not here in Australia,for one i think after a beer or 6 and a hot barmaid the show would be put on hold,well for me and my mates it would...........{sm4}
 
Deodorant?! You've obviously never been to Historicon or Cold Wars, heh heh.

Those guys show up Wednesday night and wear the same outfit for four days, some of which is spent in the public rooms, and some of them never even come out of their hotel rooms. Just 4 straight days of gaming. Dedicated, but a little pungent, after a while.

Prost!
Brad
 
Deodorant?! You've obviously never been to Historicon or Cold Wars, heh heh.

Those guys show up Wednesday night and wear the same outfit for four days, some of which is spent in the public rooms, and some of them never even come out of their hotel rooms. Just 4 straight days of gaming. Dedicated, but a little pungent, after a while.

Prost!
Brad

When I am at Historicon, I spend 17 hours nonstop gaming. My mother brings me food and drink. I do shower, however{sm4}
-Sandor:salute::
 
4.) Don't expect a discount from a vendor- look, we work hard for our wages and wouldn't dream of giving our employers 10% back- these folks work hard for their money- don't ask for a discount, if they offer, then take it but let them make the offer. Some companies have rules prohibiting selling at a discount so your pressures for pinch pennies may cost someone their livelihood......


The only one I disagree with. While I don't expect a seller to give me a discount that is at all bad for his business, I do expect that he will make me want to buy from him. As a person who also does some selling, I intentionally set my prices high and make it clear that everything is up for haggling and dealing. If someone offers a very low price, I am not insulted, and will often make a good counteroffer. If ask a seller, "If I get all these 95th over here, and two of those lancers, is it possible to get-y'a know-some off?:D:rolleyes2:" and he says "Sorry, manufacturer won't let me." or "I don't make that big a profit on those items." then I will simply buy a little less/suck it up and pay, no offence taken. If he throws in one of the lancers for free (lets say $75 off a $375 purchase) I will buy from him many more times. I see nothing wrong with this. In fact, I have recently made a slight shift from one seller to another because of a deal very similar to the one above.
-Sandor:salute::
 
the girls must love these guys!!!!!!
Mitch

Deodorant?! You've obviously never been to Historicon or Cold Wars, heh heh.

Those guys show up Wednesday night and wear the same outfit for four days, some of which is spent in the public rooms, and some of them never even come out of their hotel rooms. Just 4 straight days of gaming. Dedicated, but a little pungent, after a while.

Prost!
Brad
 
Man oh man you are a laugh riot factory! Great idea for a thread Chris

Thanks for the laughs

Dave
 
One type of customer that has always irritated me is the chap who states that no one produces a figure of XYZ (insert whatever you think appropriate) and why don't you consider making one, he alone would take at least ten and all his friends would welcome it. So you say OK but it will have to take it's place in the line. From then on in he constantly pesters you, "Have you produced XYZ yet?" at every show until one day he appears and you say "Yes, here it is" and he barely looks at it, and says "Oh, that's nice, have you thought about an ABC?" You know who you are, be afraid, be very afraid. Trooper
 
One type of customer that has always irritated me is the chap who states that no one produces a figure of XYZ (insert whatever you think appropriate) and why don't you consider making one, he alone would take at least ten and all his friends would welcome it. So you say OK but it will have to take it's place in the line. From then on in he constantly pesters you, "Have you produced XYZ yet?" at every show until one day he appears and you say "Yes, here it is" and he barely looks at it, and says "Oh, that's nice, have you thought about an ABC?" You know who you are, be afraid, be very afraid. Trooper

I know, or the "Sell me one at a discount now and I'll buy ten tomorrow"!
One story from a show.
Customer "How much is that figure"
Trader "Ten pounds"
Customer "That other trader is selling it for eight pounds"
Trader "Well you should buy it from him then".
Customer "He hasn't got any left"
Trader "Oh, We sell them for eight pounds......when we havn't got any"!^&grin^&grin


Martin

P.s. Have you ever thought of making the 29th Albanian foot dragoons in the uniform worn on a Tuesday. Me and my mates would buy loads of them!
 
P.s. Have you ever thought of making the 29th Albanian foot dragoons in the uniform worn on a Tuesday. Me and my mates would buy loads of them!

You're after those as well? What are the chances. If you make them, I'll buy one. For £8. :)
 
One type of customer that has always irritated me is the chap who states that no one produces a figure of XYZ (insert whatever you think appropriate) and why don't you consider making one, he alone would take at least ten and all his friends would welcome it. So you say OK but it will have to take it's place in the line. From then on in he constantly pesters you, "Have you produced XYZ yet?" at every show until one day he appears and you say "Yes, here it is" and he barely looks at it, and says "Oh, that's nice, have you thought about an ABC?" You know who you are, be afraid, be very afraid. Trooper

Have you started on that ' Famous Bus Drivers of History' range yet?????:wink2:
 
Hey guys-

I have been thinking about posting a thread like this for awhile so here goes. Here are some thoughts I would like to share in an attempt to increase fairness and goodwill and harmony at our toy soldier shows. I am by no means trying to dictate or codify some kind of rules for behavior- just simply wanted to put a sounding board out there for all to consider. I would be interested to hear from our friends across the pond as to what might consist of good manners at the shows overseas.

My thoughts:

1.) "Do not touch"- if a vendor has that sign posted all over their table....in whatever form...in whatever language... be courteous and at a minimum ask. Human hands have oils on them which could smudge or weaken some paints (though I hear it actually helps glossies). I always carry a magnifying glass and use it to view detail and avoid offending said vendor.

2.) Keep the language clean- be respectful of families and the fair sex.....

3.) Deodorant- can be an attendee's best friend whilst at a show during a hot weekend. Feel free to apply amply. Toothpaste isn't a bad idea either. {sm3} Heavy booze or smoke smell can be a distraction. Try not to break wind too!! {sm4}

4.) Don't expect a discount from a vendor- look, we work hard for our wages and wouldn't dream of giving our employers 10% back- these folks work hard for their money- don't ask for a discount, if they offer, then take it but let them make the offer. Some companies have rules prohibiting selling at a discount so your pressures for pinch pennies may cost someone their livelihood......

5.) Vendors- sellers don't owe you a living- treat us with respect. Not everyone can afford the items from your table. Some folks are curious- don't pressure people into sales when you think they might be over extended.

6.) Try not to crowd- the tables are getting smaller (or maybe our waistlines are expanding ^&grin). I have seen where some collectors unknowingly block access to vendors tables by standing around talking, etc and the vendor looses a potential customer because they loose patience waiting for some space. Move to the side if/when you finish conducting business so others can enjoy.

7.) thicken the skin- there are a wide variety of topics and a wide variety of opinions and "experts" {sm4} present at shows. I have been at fault here of getting sucked into p-***ing contests with some collectors over my views and theirs. This can create a difficult scene for nearby vendors and possibly yourself. Try to maintain some composure....try at least {sm3}

8.) If someone is looking to buy a set/figure etc from a vendor, please DO NOT interject that you saw it cheaper from someone else or that you have one in your collection that you could sell them cheaper. This ain't cool.

9.) Tip the barmaid!! 15 quid is all she asks for!! {sm4}{sm3}

10.) if a vendor offers to hold an item for you, may not be a bad idea to get a receipt- some nasty scrapes I have seen where a buyer thinks he left something with a vendor and the vendor doesn't have everything. Also, a vendor can hold something for you but don't expect him/her to provide absolute insurance against something accidentally happening to something fragile or expensive. I know they will do their best but stuff happens. If you buy something fragile or delicate, then maybe it is a better idea to take the time and secure it in your room/car, etc.

11.) Don't gossip- don't bad mouth a vendor or dealer about someone else- it's a very small community!! {eek3} Also, don't just assume that a vendor won't help you if something is broken- don't hesitate to ask. If you don't get the service you want, talk with your wallet and don't deal with them again. Lastly, a vendor doesn't want to hear your problems- they aren't your therapist.

Alright, those are some do's/don't's I can think of. Remember, we are all ambassadors for the hobby. Have fun and let's enjoy this hobby of ours!!

I know blokes are not famous for multi tasking, but I've often wondered why they can't collect Toy Soldiers AND bath or shower once a day, sometimes in the summer shows its truly disgusting,sort it out guys!.

Rob
 
Doesn't require multi tasking. Thats just nasty!!!!!
Mitch

I know blokes are not famous for multi tasking, but I've often wondered why they can't collect Toy Soldiers AND bath or shower once a day, sometimes in the summer shows its truly disgusting,sort it out guys!.

Rob
 

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