South Africa 2010 (1 Viewer)

[aujj65]

Another ref's bad call and the US is tied instead of winning. What a great game. Night and day for the US. Great 2nd half, terrible 1st half. All adds up to another tie. At least it was an exciting tie. -- Al

A good game despite the bad decision USA has all to play against Algeria and can in theory still go through to the next round.

Jeff

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Well that's 2 games today where very dubious referee calls had a deciding impact on the game.

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

As far as the disallowed goal goes, you can't say that it would have been a goal because the ref blew the whistle immediately (excessive shirt grabbing is always one of the usual reasons they give) and the players stopped playing. I've seen that happen before unfortunately.

US is not in an easy position. Assuming England wins today, England and Slovenia are tied in points with 4 each. US need to beat Algeria and then hope for one of them to beat the other. If there is a tie between England and Slovenia, three teams would then have five points and it gets tricky because of the goal differential rule.

Here are the rules:

The ranking of each team in each group will be determined as follows:
a) greatest number of points obtained in all group matches;
b) goal difference in all group matches;
c) greatest number of goals scored in all group matches.

If two or more teams are equal on the basis of the above three criteria, their
rankings will be determined as follows:
d) greatest number of points obtained in the group matches between the
teams concerned;
e) goal difference resulting from the group matches between the teams
concerned;
f) greater number of goals scored in all group matches between the teams
concerned;
g) drawing of lots by the FIFA Organising Committee.

Also, don't forget that in the third group game, both matches are played at the same time. This is done in order to avoid collusion (goes back to 1982 WC) and one side not playing hard.

All you can say is it will be interesting.

 

[thebritfarmer]

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[Rob]

Guys,I missed the second half, what was the bad decision?

Rob

 

[thebritfarmer]

Guys,I missed the second half, what was the bad decision?

Rob

Tied 2:2

 

[lancer]

Guys,I missed the second half, what was the bad decision?

Rob

There was a disallowed goal (US) that was late in the game. Apparently, according to commentators, there was no foul or offsides and the reason for the disallowal are vague. Slovenia were also holding US players on the play that should have resulted in a penalty kick. I am just repeating what the commentators said as I am not knowledgeable enough myself to explain this. -- Al

 

[glossman]

I agree with Brad's comments.

It was a great comeback by the USA in the second half to level the score at 2 all.

There was plenty of shirt pulling in front of the goal mouth as USA scored the "winner" that was not to be.

I think the referee blew the whistle before the ball went in, but I need to watch the replay.

The final results of Group C may well be decided on the goal differential rules.

Now for the next match.

Raymond.

 

[VIRIATO]

Speaking of refs, 2 of Argentina's goals against S. Korea, by Higuain, were scored from offside positions, guess they were lucky those were hard to spot.But the Argies were looking fine anyway.
Now to check on England sometime tonight, will they start to tick?

Paulo

 

[Rob]

Tied 2:2

There was a disallowed goal (US) that was late in the game. Apparently, according to commentators, there was no foul or offsides and the reason for the disallowal are vague. Slovenia were also holding US players on the play that should have resulted in a penalty kick. I am just repeating what the commentators said as I am not knowledgeable enough myself to explain this. -- Al

Thanks guys,US must have played well to get two back.Congratulations to the US for getting a draw after being two down,the first US goal was a cracker,real beaut.

Rob

 

[Aleš]

wow what a game ha!????

I am sad because i think we should keep this 2:0 lead but hey hwat can you do right?
Congratulations USA for the fight

Well about the game:

-biiiiiiiiig mistake of our defender CESAR,he did a poor job and an very good and expirience attacker like Landon Donovan make a beautyfull goal from a very hard ankle-i give him all respect!! and i also think our goalkeešer defence are very poor from this goal even he is a very good goalkeeper,i guees it was not his day today......

-i think this fast goal from Landon Donovan,make some fear in our players and they start to play not so defensive.I was very angry at their play,because they was sooo confuse,they didnt know what to do (atacking or defending 2:1),...it was very nervous game....

I also think th ereferee was a little confuse because he dissalowed this goal because it was some shirt pulling but i think it is his decision and he will need to answer for it.It is not Slovenia's fault for the reeferee decision.
I also think this was a goal and USA shoul win but hey i am happy that it was a draw so now everyone still have a chance.It will be more interesting.
But i also know that refeere at begining he allowed a very ugly game from Dempsey and not give him a card at least yellow one,so maybe than the reefere feel that he was not completely honest or he was just lost in the game i do not know but in my country we also didnt agree with his decisions about Dempyes not getting a card and some other USA players didnt get a card for their bad behavior for a long time,....

It is football,sometimes you get some sometimes you lost some,...we are all in the game....


At least now you know who Slovenians are and that we are not so bad or stupid or poor team and that we can also score some beautyfull goals.
I think our Coach make some mistakes in tactics or players didnt listen to him,...i hope our game will improve for England and i am sure we will play nice game with England,but i think that USA can have a lot of troubles with the Algeria.USA must win and this is also a big preasure and i am sure that Algeria will fight so like i say everything is still open,and who knows maybe we will win against England!!!



I think at the end we all can be satisfiad by the beautyfull game that it was played in this SLOVENIJA-usa match!



GOOOOOOOOO SLOVENIJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(we are still in the game!!!)

 

[Aleš]

hahaha,check this out!!!!!!!!!!!!




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-0Ih8p422A

 

[Rob]

wow what a game ha!????

I am sad because i think we should keep this 2:0 lead but hey hwat can you do right?
Congratulations USA for the fight

Well about the game:

-biiiiiiiiig mistake of our defender CESAR,he did a poor job and an very good and expirience attacker like Landon Donovan make a beautyfull goal from a very hard ankle-i give him all respect!! and i also think our goalkeešer defence are very poor from this goal even he is a very good goalkeeper,i guees it was not his day today......

-i think this fast goal from Landon Donovan,make some fear in our players and they start to play not so defensive.I was very angry at their play,because they was sooo confuse,they didnt know what to do (atacking or defending 2:1),...it was very nervous game....

I also think th ereferee was a little confuse because he dissalowed this goal because it was some shirt pulling but i think it is his decision and he will need to answer for it.It is not Slovenia's fault for the reeferee decision.
I also think this was a goal and USA shoul win but hey i am happy that it was a draw so now everyone still have a chance.It will be more interesting.
But i also know that refeere at begining he allowed a very ugly game from Dempsey and not give him a card at least yellow one,so maybe than the reefere feel that he was not completely honest or he was just lost in the game i do not know but in my country we also didnt agree with his decisions about Dempyes not getting a card and some other USA players didnt get a card for their bad behavior for a long time,....

It is football,sometimes you get some sometimes you lost some,...we are all in the game....


At least now you know who Slovenians are and that we are not so bad or stupid or poor team and that we can also score some beautyfull goals.
I think our Coach make some mistakes in tactics or players didnt listen to him,...i hope our game will improve for England and i am sure we will play nice game with England,but i think that USA can have a lot of troubles with the Algeria.USA must win and this is also a big preasure and i am sure that Algeria will fight so like i say everything is still open,and who knows maybe we will win against England!!!



I think at the end we all can be satisfiad by the beautyfull game that it was played in this SLOVENIJA-usa match!



GOOOOOOOOO SLOVENIJA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(we are still in the game!!!)

Well thats a much better balanced post Ales,not as easy as you thought eh?.Still Slovenia have announced their arrival at the World Cup,and although I don't think you will win it overall,this World cup is different.The big teams are being beaten and who knows who will win.I thought your team were the better in the first half and the US were better in the second,as they say,' its a game of two halves'.Well played Slovenia and well played to the US.

Rob

COME ON ENGLAND!!!

 

[lancer]

Well thats a much better balanced post Ales,not as easy as you thought eh?.Still Slovenia have announced their arrival at the World Cup,and although I don't think you will win it overall,this World cup is different.The big teams are being beaten and who knows who will win.I thought your team were the better in the first half and the US were better in the second,as they say,' its a game of two halves'.Well played Slovenia and well played to the US.

Rob

COME ON ENGLAND!!!

Very much a game of two halves. Perhaps someone should tell the US team about this. They seem to only show up for the second half. -- Al

 

[thebritfarmer]

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[jazzeum]

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I'm not sure what thebritfarmer is trying to say

 

[lancer]

I'm not sure what thebritfarmer is trying to say

I was contemplating this also. I feel that the red cross he is displaying is a reference to the beating he feels England will take, thus requiring medical relief. -- Al

 

[lancer]

Since I tend to watch with the games with the "mute" on, I miss a lot of stuff. I just noticed that England is using a different goalie. Did the "soft" goal allowed against the US cause this change? I assume it did or is there another reason? -- Al

 

[Rob]

Since I tend to watch with the games with the "mute" on, I miss a lot of stuff. I just noticed that England is using a different goalie. Did the "soft" goal allowed against the US cause this change? I assume it did or is there another reason? -- Al

Yes it was a big error,he also fumbled the ball in training yesterday I heard on radio today and that sealed it. .

I think we look nervous and unsettled.

Rob

 

[lancer]

Yes it was a big error,he also fumbled the ball in training yesterday I heard on radio today and that sealed it. .

I think we look nervous and unsettled.

Rob

Thanks, Rob. I thought so. Have turned the sound back on for this match now. I am tired of trying to follow in silence. Watched the US game with sound and found the buzzing to be less than usual. Maybe the filters are working. -- Al