staghound and new upcoming brit releases (1 Viewer)

[Mitch]

Guys..

Today I recieved an item that I glanced at years ago and thought probably will get that and before I knew it it was discon.

Well, here it is and, its a really good AFV and, another thing was as I mentioned to a few people in PM was it was £79.99!!!! I know the brit stuff is coming out in droves at the moment but, was really impressed with this on having a look in the last few moments.

few pics of it enclosed were these in service with the humber? I have not found any info whilst briefly looking to see if they were used singularly or, in combination with other armoured cars and vehicles. Terry rob neil any info would be appreciated

Forgot to say, this after much discussion with a few people on here was a leap of faith my first ebay purchase!!!!!
Mitch

 

[Terp152]

Congrats on a nice addition Mitch. I generally don't collect Commonweath armor, but it's one of two pieces I had to have. Chris

 

[Rob]

Great model isn't it Mitch, superb release from K&C. Will have to try and find some tactics with these , I've seen pics of three or four together in service so I'm guessing they could be used like this, it looks like it would be an excellent recon vehicle but understand they were not universally popular. Whatever the ins and outs this sure will look good with the Humber,Dingo and all the other allied vehicles.^&cool

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Rob..

Cheers. between airbrushing and feeding the female duck nesting in the garden I have tried to find somemore info and, as you say found bits about unpopularity of certain AFV's but, not on how they were used in battle and with what others. I will do a quick search later for pics of them together and other AFV's and, see what comes up
Mitch

 

[uksubs]

Great item Mitch . One of my favorite kc item and will go well with the Dingo and Humber

 

[Rob]

Mitch, heres a wiki link that at the bottom has some pics of several Staghounds in service together, I guess in the recon role they were sent forward in numbers to probe enemy positions. I have a dvd on at the moment entitled 'British Tanks at War' from the IWM archives in which it shows Dingos racing forward to ascertain the situation, although larger than the Dingo I guess the Staghounds could be used in a similar way. Not yet found anything about them working with Humber's though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Manitoba_Dragoons

Wiki also says they were mainly used at Squadron and Regimental headquaters level because they were considered too big for European roads, but as you know we can take wiki with a pinch of salt or two.

Rob

 

[uksubs]

Mitch, heres a wiki link that at the bottom has some pics of several Staghounds in service together, I guess in the recon role they were sent forward in numbers to probe enemy positions. I have a dvd on at the moment entitled 'British Tanks at War' from the IWM archives in which it shows Dingos racing forward to ascertain the situation, although larger than the Dingo I guess the Staghounds could be used in a similar way. Not yet found anything about them working with Humber's though.

http://en.wikidvd pedia.org/wiki/12th_Manitoba_Dragoons

I have that dvd Rob{sm4} Think in Normandy they started using Cromwell tanks in the recon role . I see Osprey do a nice range of books on the Staghound and Humber armoured cars

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Staghounds were used mostly by the Canadians. They were with the 4th and 5th Canadian Armoured divisions in Italy and Western Europe. They were American built and were huge compared to the Humber. The K&C model is likely 1:32 so will look small. They had a 5 man crew, 37mm gun in a turret and 2 or 3 0.30 MG. They weighed 14 tons and has 43mm of armour. The Brit units had mostly the similar designed Humber.

With Humber armoured cars. They were much smaller at 5 tons with crews of 3 or 4 and only 14mm armour. The armoured cars, recon cars and scout cars were used by the units in armoured car regiments and armoured recon regiments in ways which defy analysis and which changed over time. The Canadians were equipped mainly with Staghounds because the Brits didn't like them, although the Canadians did because a Staghound could drive over a Humber armoured car if it got in the way. ^&grin

Terry

 

[Rob]

Italy was its first use I believe and it of course arrived too late for North Africa which was a shame as it may have fared better there, we got fed up with it and gave it to the Canadians, bit like an older brother passing down an old bike^&grin

Rob

 

[Rob]

I have that dvd Rob{sm4} Think in Normandy they started using Cromwell tanks in the recon role . I see Osprey do a nice range of books on the Staghound and Humber armoured cars

Good dvd isn't it Neil, I love the ' ten tips for tackling a Tank' film, hard to imagine they made stuff like that even in THOSE days!{sm4} Starts with the line 'Tanks are the big bruisers of the War, a flee can tickle an Elephant to death if he does it in the right place' {eek3}^&grin I think I'd want a bit more reassurance than a flee can tickle an Elephant before I faced the Jerries!^&grin

Rob

 

[Rob]

Here's a good pic (copyright Imperial War museum)

 

[uksubs]

Italy was its first use I believe and it of course arrived too late for North Africa which was a shame as it may have fared better there, we got fed up with it and gave it to the Canadians, bit like an older brother passing down an old bike^&grin

Rob

Think we gave them the Greyhound as well witch was used in Italy

 

[OzDigger]

Staghounds were used mostly by the Canadians. They were with the 4th and 5th Canadian Armoured divisions in Italy and Western Europe. They were American built and were huge compared to the Humber. The K&C model is likely 1:32 so will look small. They had a 5 man crew, 37mm gun in a turret and 2 or 3 0.30 MG. They weighed 14 tons and has 43mm of armour. The Brit units had mostly the similar designed Humber.

With Humber armoured cars. They were much smaller at 5 tons with crews of 3 or 4 and only 14mm armour. The armoured cars, recon cars and scout cars were used by the units in armoured car regiments and armoured recon regiments in ways which defy analysis and which changed over time. The Canadians were equipped mainly with Staghounds because the Brits didn't like them, although the Canadians did because a Staghound could drive over a Humber armoured car if it got in the way. ^&grin

Terry

I did have this K & C set and yes it does actually represent a vehicle in Canadian service.

 

[Mitch]

cheers for the info everyone some good pics of the staghounds in action. neil... It is a very nice piece glad to have one and not have to give an arm and a leg for it. Now just have to think of a dio setting for it
Mitch

 

[Guy]

Mitch,
the K&C staghound belongs to the Manitoba Dragoons I believe
The Manitoba Dragoons liberated the city where I live ( Bruges) in sept 1944. The first Canadian troops welcomed by the citizens of Bruges entered the city in a Staghound . It was used as a recon vehicle and it was the first vehicle to enter the city, followed by a few more before the Canadian infantry came through the gates of the city . I will try to dig up some pics my father took on that very day.
guy

 

[Phantom Warrior]

cheers for the info everyone some good pics of the staghounds in action. neil... It is a very nice piece glad to have one and not have to give an arm and a leg for it. Now just have to think of a dio setting for it
Mitch

I don't think the Canadians used M8 Greyhounds. And the Staghounds weren't passed down to the Canadians by the Brits. The Canadians requested them in 1942 and used them first in Italy and then in NW Europe. I think only a small number of Brit units had them. Most Brit units were equipped with the inferior Humbers. ^&grin

Canada had two armoured divisions; each Division had an Armoured Car Regiment of mostly Staghounds. -1st Armoured Car Regiment (Royal Canadian Dragoons) and the 18th Armoured Car Regiment (12th Manitoba Dragoons). Staghounds were also in the independent recce squadrons of Divisions. The armoured Car Regiments were used to engage light targets and for infantry support and less so for recce - that's what the Recce Regiments were for and they had some Staghounds but mostly lighter AFVs.

Terry

 

[Rob]

I don't think the Canadians used M8 Greyhounds. And the Staghounds weren't passed down to the Canadians by the Brits. The Canadians requested them in 1942 and used them first in Italy and then in NW Europe. I think only a small number of Brit units had them. Most Brit units were equipped with the inferior Humbers. ^&grin

Canada had two armoured divisions; each Division had an Armoured Car Regiment of mostly Staghounds. -1st Armoured Car Regiment (Royal Canadian Dragoons) and the 18th Armoured Car Regiment (12th Manitoba Dragoons). Staghounds were also in the independent recce squadrons of Divisions. The armoured Car Regiments were used to engage light targets and for infantry support and less so for recce - that's what the Recce Regiments were for and they had some Staghounds but mostly lighter AFVs.

Terry

It was a joke Terry:rolleyes2:

Rob

 

[uksubs]

It was a joke Terry:rolleyes2:

Rob

{sm3}{bravo}}

 

[Phantom Warrior]

cheers for the info everyone some good pics of the staghounds in action. neil... It is a very nice piece glad to have one and not have to give an arm and a leg for it. Now just have to think of a dio setting for it
Mitch

The Staghounds were used as a striking force and were also often with Canadian Armoured Infantry in support. So they go with the vehicles the armoured infantry used. You could consider the Staghounds wheeled, light tanks comparable to the M3 Stuart.

Terry

 

[Phantom Warrior]

It was a joke Terry:rolleyes2:

Rob

Yes Rob. I got it. :rolleyes2:^&grin

Terry