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I personally enjoy Andys "snipes" at others. If they post their negative comments about Andy,s products, he has every right as a MEMBER of this board to post his.
As others have posted, don,t complain about a product that you have not even bought.
I have no problem with this board being somewhat of a King & Country fan club. Isn,t that why we all joined.
As for Andys participation on this board I think he is thick skinned enough not to take it so personal that he would just walk away, at least I hope not, as I truely enjoy his comments, good and bad.
Gary

I suspect most people would think Andy is shooting himself in the foot or craping in his own nest by making such remarks. However if he wants to continue such antics I'm sure some will support them, including those that would like to see King and Country fail.
 
I think we have beat this to death and then stomped the body. Let's talk soldiers.
 
I personally enjoy Andys "snipes" at others. If they post their negative comments about Andy,s products, he has every right as a MEMBER of this board to post his.
As others have posted, don,t complain about a product that you have not even bought.
I have no problem with this board being somewhat of a King & Country fan club. Isn,t that why we all joined.
As for Andys participation on this board I think he is thick skinned enough not to take it so personal that he would just walk away, at least I hope not, as I truely enjoy his comments, good and bad.
Gary

Gary,

Actually, the answer is no. I did not join to be a member of the K & C fan club. I joined (knowing of the K & C bias) because of my love of toy soldiers and for the opportunity to communicate with fellow collectors of all stripes. I have known Andy for more than 10 years and bought my first K & C figures 15years ago. My interests go way beyond just 60 mm matte finished figures. Of the 5,000 plus figures I have, only about 100 are K & C. But that is because I love the glossy, colorful uniforms from the 19th century. De gusta bus.
 
Oz,

Its obvious that Andy's comments are still bothering you. I am sorry to see that. As I said, these things can easily get out of hand when there is no face or even voice to render the comments a little more humane or humerous. As one of Andy's friends, I am sorry that you and he ended up at odds. He really is a great guy. I can't tell you how many good turns he has done me over the years. Well, at least when you come visit me in New York, I can stand you dinner and a drink. Once we have shared a bottle of good Bourbon and become "mates", I will use my friendship with both of you to make you each tolerate the other.

Regards,

Louis
 
Louis, it wasn't so much what he said. It's more the fact that Andy continues to use his influence as a manufacturer to make me, and certain other members, the subject of his sarcastic replies. It's well known that you and I aren't keen on the polystone tracks. Yet Andy chose to give you a friendly slap on the back in his recent 'K & C track improvement' post while giving me face slaps in a couple of threads. A cynical person may think Andy did that to try and deny I may have had some influence on the proposed track improvements. Big deal, it doesn't mean that I won some victory over him.

I have noted that some members support Andy when he has a go at 'complaining' members. Why? Surely they can see that it is not in the interest of Andy, King and Country, Treefrog, and most other members for him to keep up these sarcastic rebutals. If I wanted to see King and Country fail I would actually encourage Andy's sarcastic tones because I can assure you guys they really PO a significant number of members and no doubt the silent majority of forum lurkers.

I make complaints about SOME aspects of King and Country figures and models because I'd like to see ALL their products as good as MOST of them are. As I said before, this is not some conspiracy. Just a keen model collector trying to encourage improvements in a company where I sometimes feel the owner thinks improvements aren't required. And I suspect you'd agree Loius that Andy may be a tad stubborn.

I guess we should all try and concentrate on what members actually say, rather than why we think they said it. Of course I'm often guilty of that myself as I sometimes see greedy investor/reseller motives behind the posts of some members. I'm considered a good judge of character (even my wife says so), but I'm sure I'm not correct all the time - especially over the internet.

For example I've often wondered why some members are rabid supporters of 'Strictly Limited Editions'. Imo SL editions seem more in favour of those members that make some money out of reselling. Whereas I feel increased numbers would expand the K & C market making their products more available. Especially on clearly popular issues such as Rommels Greif (remember that thread guys). Yet the simple answer may be that we would ALL just like to see K & C maintain its success, some of us just had different ideas.

I would also like to see us ALL get along and I may even return to collecting K & C figures some day.

Let's see how we go from here - on a clean slate so to speak.
 
Well that's enough from me about this matter guys.

Now I'm sure we'd all like to move on, forgive and forget, etc etc.

Any more model suggestions.
 
Well for one i reeeeeeeeeeeally want the 'Pegasus Bridge' series to come along as i missed Arnhem (and don't think they actually compare to todays standards)Also would like a Grant Tank and a Firefly.There.not to much to ask for a wednesday morning.

Rob
 
Louis, it wasn't so much what he said. It's more the fact that Andy continues to use his influence as a manufacturer to make me, and certain other members, the subject of his sarcastic replies. It's well known that you and I aren't keen on the polystone tracks. Yet Andy chose to give you a friendly slap on the back in his recent 'K & C track improvement' post while giving me face slaps in a couple of threads. A cynical person may think Andy did that to try and deny I may have had some influence on the proposed track improvements. Big deal, it doesn't mean that I won some victory over him.

I have noted that some members support Andy when he has a go at 'complaining' members. Why? Surely they can see that it is not in the interest of Andy, King and Country, Treefrog, and most other members for him to keep up these sarcastic rebutals. If I wanted to see King and Country fail I would actually encourage Andy's sarcastic tones because I can assure you guys they really PO a significant number of members and no doubt the silent majority of forum lurkers.

I make complaints about SOME aspects of King and Country figures and models because I'd like to see ALL their products as good as MOST of them are. As I said before, this is not some conspiracy. Just a keen model collector trying to encourage improvements in a company where I sometimes feel the owner thinks improvements aren't required. And I suspect you'd agree Loius that Andy may be a tad stubborn.

I guess we should all try and concentrate on what members actually say, rather than why we think they said it. Of course I'm often guilty of that myself as I sometimes see greedy investor/reseller motives behind the posts of some members. I'm considered a good judge of character (even my wife says so), but I'm sure I'm not correct all the time - especially over the internet.

For example I've often wondered why some members are rabid supporters of 'Strictly Limited Editions'. Imo SL editions seem more in favour of those members that make some money out of reselling. Whereas I feel increased numbers would expand the K & C market making their products more available. Especially on clearly popular issues such as Rommels Greif (remember that thread guys). Yet the simple answer may be that we would ALL just like to see K & C maintain its success, some of us just had different ideas.

I would also like to see us ALL get along and I may even return to collecting K & C figures some day.

Let's see how we go from here - on a clean slate so to speak.

OZ

I have enjoyed chatting with you. Did my answer to your last question to about Vietnam help you understand.
About all this other stuff, I think you take some of this to personal. I let my $$ say which items I like and believe it filters to what ever company makes what ever. Thats the reason so many drop by the side of road on their way to the top. Then theres always someone new trying to knock them off. The market will adjust itself.
I recall reading in one of your post not long ago you said your son plays Warcraft online. My 12 year grandson who lives in my refrigerator and on one my computers most of the time play this game all the time He says plays a number of kids down under. It would be neat if they have met online.

Your forum friend from the Southern part of the USA
 
Thanks for your Civil reply......I have people to represent and I don't wish to provoke anything. But there are some people that are intimidated to speak and that is not good (For those of you who cant make sense of this I retracted a strong statement I made) Alex
 
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Alex,

This is a free forum and as long as we're not getting personal with each other, there's no reason to pull it.

I essentially agree with you. There's no one here who walks on water. If you don't like something or don't think it's made right, you should tell the maker, be that Andy, Rick, Ken or Ana. As Chuck says the best way to vote is with your dollars. If you don't buy it, the product will change or disappear.

I don't really think there's politics here, just a lot of impassioned people who like K & C. Nothing wrong with that. I also don't think people should be intimidated in saying what they feel. That's what a forum is about: saying what's on your mind. I don't think people mind that. And I hope this forum is about more than K & C. It may have started that way but it would be pretty boring if that's all we talked about.

As this forum seems to be growing in leaps and bounds, we need to keep it an open place, where people can say what they want about anything.
 
Alex,

This is a free forum and as long as we're not getting personal with each other, there's no reason to pull it.

I essentially agree with you. There's no one here who walks on water. If you don't like something or don't think it's made right, you should tell the maker, be that Andy, Rick, Ken or Ana. As Chuck says the best way to vote is with your dollars. If you don't buy it, the product will change or disappear.

I don't really think there's politics here, just a lot of impassioned people who like K & C. Nothing wrong with that. I also don't think people should be intimidated in saying what they feel. That's what a forum is about: saying what's on your mind. I don't think people mind that. And I hope this forum is about more than K & C. It may have started that way but it would be pretty boring if that's all we talked about.

As this forum seems to be growing in leaps and bounds, we need to keep it an open place, where people can say what they want about anything.

I like this conclusion, Brad. IMO that's exactly the meaning of this forum! Quality time with fellow 1/30 - 1/32 collectors all over the world.
Eddy
 
OZ

I have enjoyed chatting with you. Did my answer to your last question to about Vietnam help you understand.
About all this other stuff, I think you take some of this to personal. I let my $$ say which items I like and believe it filters to what ever company makes what ever. Thats the reason so many drop by the side of road on their way to the top. Then theres always someone new trying to knock them off. The market will adjust itself.
I recall reading in one of your post not long ago you said your son plays Warcraft online. My 12 year grandson who lives in my refrigerator and on one my computers most of the time play this game all the time He says plays a number of kids down under. It would be neat if they have met online.

Your forum friend from the Southern part of the USA

Hi Chuck, your info about your experience in Vietnam was very interesting. I don't have many references about the Vietnam War but I recall that one mentioned the Stoner system of firearms were used by the more elite troops in that conflict. But as you indicated, the people in the field usually knew what was best.

Have you ever put any of your experiences in writing? Back in the 1970's when my grandfather was nearly 90 we encouraged him to record some of his stories on cassette tape which I later transcribed to a booklet of about 40 pages. His memory of his experiences were still vivid but the time had eased some of the pain. Now we have a lasting memory of him to pass on.

Sadly my father didn't get around to recording his war experiences in the RAAF during WWII. However at his funeral a few years ago we spoke to the pilot of his crew, the skipper as they called him. And he said he would write up some info on their bombing operations as well as background material. I received the booklet he did just three weeks ago, he is now 86, and there are only three left from their original seven man crew.

About that other stuff as you say. Well I guess I do take things a bit personal, but when you get your own thread of Andy sarcasm it does tend to make one a bit prickly. I noticed some other members crawled back into their shells when they got an Andy hotshot, but I'm not that kind of guy I guess. In hindsight I agree that I over reacted and picked on K & C and Andy far to much. I guess it may be a tall poppy situation in that we expect the leader in the field not to have any downsides. Which is unrealistic in real life.

However I also feel Andy may be to sensitive himself. If you make collectable figures from scratch, you can't expect that they will all be well received by the public. If you please the majority you're doing a good job imo. However there is always room for improvement. Therefore I feel it would be wiser for company owners such as Andy not to wear their heart on their sleeves as far as their products are concerned.
 
Hi Guys,

I can be accused of many things in life…but “wearing my heart on my sleeve” sure ain’t one of ‘em!

sob, sob, gulp, gulp,

Andy C.



“A sharp poke in the eyes…a quick knee to the groin…and a clean pair of heels – works every time!”

Lt. Harry Flashman

11th Hussars.
 
Flashman also said "never kick a man when he is down, he may get up again" :)
 
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"WOOF WOOF"! Wise words from Lord Flasheart 'Blackadder goes forth' .

Rob
 
I agree that "wears his heart on his sleeve" was a bit off the mark, how about "a bit touchy about his products", but I can understand that.
 
I also liked his very enlightened attitude to the female vote in 1918:

"Any bird that wants to chain herself to my railings and suffer a jet movement gets my vote!!"

Suppose i should get back to work really.Hey Andy any possible teeny weeny hint on whether at anytime in the future we may possibly see the arrival of the British Paras,no pressure you understand!!

Rob
 
Oz,tell me you won't be using THAT Umpire in November!

Rob
 
Oz,tell me you won't be using THAT Umpire in November!

Rob

I guess you're refering to the Pakistan cricket ball tampering issue Rob. I'm backing our umpire on this one, as no matter what decision an umpire makes only a bunch of ******* would refuse to play. I think the Pakistan cricket players are sneekier than the Italian Football team and deserve everything they get. We last had problems with them throwing the ball, every time they get caught out with some trick they play the racist card. They just plain suck imo. But I doubt if Umpire Hair will get another senior umpires job as the Pommy cricket board has to much money tied up in this test, so I can see him becoming the fall guy.
 

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