The Hateful Eight (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

I saw this last night and my advice is go see another movie or those will be three hours you will never get back. The best thing one can say it's a typical Tarantino movie, starring Samuel L Jackson as a bounty hunter. It's Tarantino's paean to Westerns and involves a lot of discussion about race relations. It starts in typical Western fashion with a stagecoach and Jackson and others showing up at a snowy restaurant where other desperadoes are already there. There is a standoff between Jackson and a Southern general. This is where it gets talky, etc. and then in typical Tarantino fashion the body counts builds.

Compared to Django, Inglorious Bastards or Kill Bill, a decidedly inferior effort. The gore and the race relations just don't mesh.

Lots of use of the "n" word.

A typical Tarantino movie or did I say that already?

 

[kingtoot]

I saw this last night and my advice is go see another movie or those will be three hours you will never get back. The best thing one can say it's a typical Tarantino movie, starring Samuel L Jackson as a bounty hunter. It's Tarantino's paean to Westerns and involves a lot of discussion about race relations. It starts in typical Western fashion with a stagecoach and Jackson and others showing up at a snowy restaurant where other desperadoes are already there. There is a standoff between Jackson and a Southern general. This is where it gets talky, etc. and then in typical Tarantino fashion the body counts builds.

Compared to Django, Inglorious Bastards or Kill Bill, a decidedly inferior effort. The gore and the race relations just don't mesh.

Lots of use of the "n" word.

A typical Tarantino movie or did I say that already?

anything with Tarantino and jackson, you can expect a large use of the dreaded "N" word. thanks for the info. I won't go see it now

 

[wayne556517]

Loved it highly recommend if you like Tarantino you will like this,as for the "N" word don't really understand the big deal brilliant loved it or did i all ready say that.

 

[hotel3alpha]

All,

Have not seen it yet, but plan too. I have seen every Tarantino flick since Reservoir Dogs as I am a fan of his cinema style. To me, his early films were awesome-RD, True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and some of latter films are "meh"-Inglorious and Django. YES all of them are festooned with the N word, with the exception of Inglorious Bastards (which is a remake by the way). However, it seems to be getting much more gratuitous as of late especially with Django. Frankly, I think he likes the N word and it is apart of his vernacular and therefore uses it in his writing and Mr. Samuel L. Jackson has referred to himself as a N in many interviews and documentaries. So, when those two collaborate on a film they are just in N word heaven. So there in lies a question; by watching his films do I support the use of the N word in film? No, because I have no idea that it is going to be used, but by now I definatley expect it in every single one of his films. But I do support him as a very creative film maker that has is own unique style of telling a story that is unlike any film maker in history? Yes. Which is why Pulp Fiction has made AFI's top 100 films of all time.

So, there is no "big deal" wayne556517 about the N word in a flick as we can't blame the players for the social ills of the real world. However, to me it is a big deal to think it is not a big deal to use the N word in real life as that word is probably one of the most loathsome racial epitaphs that can come out of one's mouth in the real world. I, for one don't use it, never heard my parents use it, don't allow my children to speak it or tolerate anyone around them who uses it or any other racial epitaph. I am still to this day shocked and abhorred when I hear black folk refer to each other with the N word and how rap songs are laden with N word as a verse in a song. Let me repeat that, as a verse in a song that you can sing to and "the artists" makes money off of. I swear if MLK was alive now, he would be so disappointed in not only his own race, but all of us for accepting this as the norm.

Or...I could be wrong which usually I am.

John from Texas

 

[jazzeum]

The use of the "n" word for the reasons you mentioned John is a big deal but I wouldn't expect anyone not familiar or knowledgeable with our country's history to understand. My son, who used to listen to rap, said that the use in the movie was just like listening to a rap song. That being said, historically, black people have used this term among themselves. I once attended a party where I was the only white face and the host felt compelled to apologize for using the term.

Interestingly, there hasn't been a hue and a cry about the use of the term as there was with Django because that movie was more about the Civil War than this one was, plus the message was plainer. Moreover, the issue was hotly debated at the time and Tarantino's attempt to shock is just part of his stock in trade. In addition, this movie is not as good as Django; the theater was one third full. Perhaps, after the holidays, after the Star Wars phenomenon has passed, this movie will get more attention and discussion.

 

[BLReed]

$6M box office against $44M production budget. Poor loser priceless. Maybe nobody is interested.
A black bounty hunter in the late 1800's Wyoming, not believable. And excessive use of the "N"
word for the liberal didn't help much either. Along with calling police murders.

" Quentin Tarantino. The Oscar-winning director claims Disney is “going out of their way to f— me,” among other choice words he used on the Howard Stern SiriusXM radio show Wednesday."
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/quentin-tarantino-disney-extortion-star-wars-hateful-eight-1201663184/

 

[damian]

Believable is not an adjective which springs to mind with any movie by Tarantino
I enjoyed the Tim Roth character
I agree not his best movie but it was very typical of his style

 

[jazzeum]

I thought the acting, overall, was pretty good and I see where some have nominated Jackson for an Oscar. However, I thought Kurt Russell stole the show.

 

[The Military Workshop]

Having seen most of his previous films I have a good idea what to expect which is lots of swearing and violence. Nobody should be surprised by the violence or language in a Tarantino movie.
If you don't like his style of movie making then Judd Appatow is an alternative director.

Whilst I dont appreciate Tarantinos politics I do enjoy his movies. I thought Pulp Fiction was quite unique at the time and liked it a lot. Anybody watching his movies can see his love and knowledge of movies. He normally assembles a good cast and many good actors want to be in his movies. Not only that he has created roles that have given good opportunities to actors. Think the revival of John Travolta and the two Oscars for Christoph Waltz who was previously an unknown. For me one of the points I like is the clever dialogue between interesting characters. When you consider the type of characters in his movies it is hardly surprising there is a lot bad language. Who would have though a black bounty hunter and a Confederate General might have some choice words to say to each other !.

A simple solution to the problem. If you are likely to be offended by over the top violence and foul language (including the N word) then dont go and watch a Tarantino movie.

I enjoyed Star Wars but the Star War / Star Trek type movies are not the ones I look forward to. Give me a Tarantino, Scorcese or Ridley Scott (on earth not in space) movie and they are ones I eagerly await.

 

[wayne556517]

All,

Have not seen it yet, but plan too. I have seen every Tarantino flick since Reservoir Dogs as I am a fan of his cinema style. To me, his early films were awesome-RD, True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown and some of latter films are "meh"-Inglorious and Django. YES all of them are festooned with the N word, with the exception of Inglorious Bastards (which is a remake by the way). However, it seems to be getting much more gratuitous as of late especially with Django. Frankly, I think he likes the N word and it is apart of his vernacular and therefore uses it in his writing and Mr. Samuel L. Jackson has referred to himself as a N in many interviews and documentaries. So, when those two collaborate on a film they are just in N word heaven. So there in lies a question; by watching his films do I support the use of the N word in film? No, because I have no idea that it is going to be used, but by now I definatley expect it in every single one of his films. But I do support him as a very creative film maker that has is own unique style of telling a story that is unlike any film maker in history? Yes. Which is why Pulp Fiction has made AFI's top 100 films of all time.

So, there is no "big deal" wayne556517 about the N word in a flick as we can't blame the players for the social ills of the real world. However, to me it is a big deal to think it is not a big deal to use the N word in real life as that word is probably one of the most loathsome racial epitaphs that can come out of one's mouth in the real world. I, for one don't use it, never heard my parents use it, don't allow my children to speak it or tolerate anyone around them who uses it or any other racial epitaph. I am still to this day shocked and abhorred when I hear black folk refer to each other with the N word and how rap songs are laden with N word as a verse in a song. Let me repeat that, as a verse in a song that you can sing to and "the artists" makes money off of. I swear if MLK was alive now, he would be so disappointed in not only his own race, but all of us for accepting this as the norm.

Or...I could be wrong which usually I am.

John from Texas

Mate in MY country know one uses the "N" word I'm aware of so like i sad it is no big deal in my country !!

 

[damian]

I thought the acting, overall, was pretty good and I see where some have nominated Jackson for an Oscar. However, I thought Kurt Russell stole the show.

Kurt Russel is a really amazing actor who always policy slightly off beat characters.

 

[hotel3alpha]

Mate in MY country know one uses the "N" word I'm aware of so like i sad it is no big deal in my country !!

Yeah, the good ole USA is just full of colorful descriptions of people. I guess your country is the exception.
Happy New Year!

John from Texas

 

[nmrocks]

We'll be seeing it this weekend, I get his over the top style though with much more edge than most of what cimema is today, you need to suspend reality on most films today. loved Django and 2 of my all time favorites are Kill Bill 1&2.
Ray

 

[hotel3alpha]

Mate in MY country know one uses the "N" word I'm aware of so like i sad it is no big deal in my country !!

Wayne,

This has nothing to do with the movie review! However, I could not help myself posting this link after our convo (your country vs USA and the "n" word:

http://boingboing.net/2015/12/31/racist-fracking-aficionado-fir.html

This came out the other day and that kid is not but 20 some odd years old and just slinging the rants. No shame and no cooth! Now, he has lost his job, apologized profusely and has found God...all in that order. Before the rant, he had a job-apologized for nothing (cause he's 'Merican) and was a back row baptist I assume? I love it how simpletons are quick to grab the bible as a shield for their bigotry and ignorance.

Another day in the life,

John from Texas

 

[wayne556517]

Yeah, the good ole USA is just full of colorful descriptions of people. I guess your country is the exception.
Happy New Year!

John from Texas

I never said anything about the US mate,just explaining that in Australia the "N" word is no big deal and hence had no effect on me during the movie so as to make me dislike because of the "N" word,also it is only a movie not a documentary and if it is that offensive to people use your legs and walk out problem solved.

Happy new year mate :salute::

 

[Ragnar]

I never said anything about the US mate,just explaining that in Australia the "N" word is no big deal and hence had no effect on me during the movie so as to make me dislike because of the "N" word,also it is only a movie not a documentary and if it is that offensive to people use your legs and walk out problem solved.

Happy new year mate :salute::

Sorry Mate....but I have to totally disagree with your comment!.....Its just as big a deal in Australia as anywhere else in the civilized world!
Anyone using that "word" in the multicultural melting pot of Sydney would be cut down to size fast.....or just plain shot dead!

 

[THE SHOOTIST]

The word was part of the mid-1800's lexicon. No big deal. In order to provide an accurate representation of the linguistics of the era of the film, it needed to be used. Offensive? Definitely, but part of the history of the American West, and correctly portrayed as such.

Haven't any of you guys seen Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles"? The "N-Bomb" is used with great frequency in that film, with great comedic effect.

 

[waynepoo]

Mate in MY country know one uses the "N" word I'm aware of so like i sad it is no big deal in my country !!

Some of you I think are misunderstanding Wayne #2 here, I'm guessing what he means is that here in Oz those among us who are bigots don't normally use the 'N' word, they use a whole raft of other words that are uniquely Australian.....all very offensive.
Wayne.

 

[hotel3alpha]

All,

Sorry to stir a pot here, well really I am not. It is interesting to hear everyone around the world chime in on the ole "N" word subject. Again, let me be clear I do not blame the players, but as you can see from the link I posted it ain't just a southern thang, as that kid was from Pennsylvania and a knuckle head to boot. That is what you call "hillbilly" or the stereo type there of.

I am going to go see it cause I am a Taratino fan. He made a surprise visit to the Alamo Drafthouse two days ago in Austin to do a Q&A out of the blue. Pretty cool and I am a Drafthouse member since day one...check it online...you guys would love it.

To all my Aussie brethren: I am watching Babadook for the first time as we speak...and The Little River Band is one of my favorite bands of all time. I remember the lyrics when I was a kid..."It was Friday night, it was late, I was walking you home, we got down to the gate and I was dreaming of the night...would it turn out right?"

John from Texas

 

[nmrocks]

All,

Sorry to stir a pot here, well really I am not. It is interesting to hear everyone around the world chime in on the ole "N" word subject. Again, let me be clear I do not blame the players, but as you can see from the link I posted it ain't just a southern thang, as that kid was from Pennsylvania and a knuckle head to boot. That is what you call "hillbilly" or the stereo type there of.

I am going to go see it cause I am a Taratino fan. He made a surprise visit to the Alamo Drafthouse two days ago in Austin to do a Q&A out of the blue. Pretty cool and I am a Drafthouse member since day one...check it online...you guys would love it.

To all my Aussie brethren: I am watching Babadook for the first time as we speak...and The Little River Band is one of my favorite bands of all time. I remember the lyrics when I was a kid..."It was Friday night, it was late, I was walking you home, we got down to the gate and I was dreaming of the night...would it turn out right?"

John from Texas

JOHN!!!! NOOOO!!! The little river band one of your all time favorites!!!!! Please!!! Tell me you've been drinking hard!!!
Ray

By the way, the Spurs are on FIIIYA!!!!