The M113 at work (1 Viewer)

[waynepoo]

Enough of sleeves and back to the Centurion, this picture has inspired me to get one or two and recreate the scene as a diorama, of course need to do some mega overtime....:redface2:

 

[wayne556517]

Enough of sleeves and back to the Centurion, this picture has inspired me to get one or two and recreate the scene as a diorama, of course need to do some mega overtime....:redface2:

Nearly $1500 alone in vehicles matey,yep a heap of OT.

 

[King & Country]

Enough of sleeves and back to the Centurion, this picture has inspired me to get one or two and recreate the scene as a diorama, of course need to do some mega overtime....:redface2:

Hi Wayne,
I reckon you will make a stunning 'Vietnam' diorama based on that pic from the War Memorial...
Rock on mate!
Can't wait to see it and good luck,
Andy.

 

[waynepoo]

Hi Wayne,
I reckon you will make a stunning 'Vietnam' diorama based on that pic from the War Memorial...
Rock on mate!
Can't wait to see it and good luck,
Andy.

Thanks young Andy, got a year to do it and save for two Centurions {sm2} but wouldn't be a comp entry kinda wont fit on 350 x 350 cm base :rolleyes2: Of course any kind donation from your good self wouldn't go astray and you can take it home with you...^&grin:wink2:
A question for you. I am off on a tangent...want to do a ancient Egyptian diorama and may I ask if by some miracle if you have AE20 Cleo and Chamberlin lurking about your office, shop somewhere....
Thanks Mate.

 

[Horus]

Some pics I've scanned of Aussies in Vietnam with sleeves in various states as to suit themselves and the occasion.

Last photo adds a bit more interest with the troops showing off the different types of web equipment being used by Aussies, which in this pic shows British '44 Pattern webbing, 08/37 pattern probably with Aussie alteration and US M56

 

[wayne556517]

And packs on great pics mate.

 

[The Military Workshop]

It might of been discussed several times mate but that doesn't make Brett and yourself correct.
Your pics show diggers walking on roads( Aussie patrols never used roads unless in a safe zone SOP) or waiting for extraction or after a patrol,and Brett my one pic shows the point out of all those soldiers returning after a patrol how many have sleeves up ?
Andy has made the M Gunner the only figure with sleeves down and I'm afraid that would be incorrect.
Elephant grass,leeches,mozzies etc etc how many jungles have you trained in ??
Your own post Vietnam experience and thoughts do not outweigh the reality of actual images such as Andy has posted,might be correct Brett but what did you do post Vietnam that makes you a expert talk to 1 brigadier ?
I at least volunteered,and trained and got trained by ex Vietnam soldiers my CSM and RSM where all ex Vietnam soldiers not officers mate non coms.
I spoke and know soldiers mate not officers like Andy who sit in a nice office so what you do with your sleeves has nothing to do with the conversation,and that's all it is a conversation.
Don't care about hairy chested gunners {sm2}.

Its just a shame you didn't mix them up a bit but 1 digger sleeves down is wrong and when is the rest of the section coming sleeves down I hope {sm4}
Whats wrong with these soldiers being historically correct it has been discussed and changed in other eras,I like them and will grab them but mine will be altered and displayed returning from patrol not out actually doing their jobs as members of the Royal Australian Regiment.

Wayne,
What Andy and I have been trying to explain is that it can be sleeves up or down. 3/4 of Horus's photos show some sleeves up (look on the vehicles). See also Andy's pics. I apologise for not realising your opinion is all that matters even when photos contradict your absolute certainty that you know best. As far as I am concerned both ways are correct.

You seem to have an issue with the fact I mentioned a Brigadier. As I said he summed up the situation best. Regulations said sleeves down but not worth trying to enforce as would be doing it daily. This means it was common practice for his men to have sleeves up. The first person I called was actually the Curator of 6 RAR Museum who was in 6 RAR base when Long Tan took place. Another Veteran I know has an extensive book collection and he confirmed photos showed either way. Plus spoke to several others who gave me different comments. Who knew I should have just asked you.

May I suggest you get Obee to paint them exactly how you like. That may however actually involve you buying them in the first place.

 

[Horus]

And packs on great pics mate.

Be nice to have a few figures with packs on, but of course that would put the price of the figures up and Andy is trying to keep prices down for us collectors.

Perhaps a compromise could be a figure or two in the process of putting on / taking off packs or standing / crouching by packs ?

It's quite astonishing to see in photos the number of water bottles that the Soldiers / Marines carried in Vietnam, when you see Burma /Pacific ww2 photos it's generally just one or two.

Steve

 

[wayne556517]

Wayne,
What Andy and I have been trying to explain is that it can be sleeves up or down. 3/4 of Horus's photos show some sleeves up (look on the vehicles). See also Andy's pics. I apologise for not realising your opinion is all that matters even when photos contradict your absolute certainty that you know best. As far as I am concerned both ways are correct.

You seem to have an issue with the fact I mentioned a Brigadier. As I said he summed up the situation best. Regulations said sleeves down but not worth trying to enforce as would be doing it daily. This means it was common practice for his men to have sleeves up. The first person I called was actually the Curator of 6 RAR Museum who was in 6 RAR base when Long Tan took place. Another Veteran I know has an extensive book collection and he confirmed photos showed either way. Plus spoke to several others who gave me different comments. Who knew I should have just asked you.

May I suggest you get Obee to paint them exactly how you like. That may however actually involve you buying them in the first place.

Brett
Don't you worry about what I'm buying or not mate that's my business as for the sleeves I've got plans in place to purchase and modify.
I've said my piece mate and why can't I have a opinion I was a member of the Royal Australian Regiment,I never said I was correct just don't agree with you and Andy on 7 out of 8 sleeves up it annoys me.

 

[King & Country]

Be nice to have a few figures with packs on, but of course that would put the price of the figures up and Andy is trying to keep prices down for us collectors.

Perhaps a compromise could be a figure or two in the process of putting on / taking off packs or standing / crouching by packs ?

It's quite astonishing to see in photos the number of water bottles that the Soldiers / Marines carried in Vietnam, when you see Burma /Pacific ww2 photos it's generally just one or two.

Steve

Hi Steve,
Talking of backpacks...
For what it's worth our ANZAC S.A.S. Troopers will have large packs.
And maybe, down the line, K&C will also do a figure or two with large packs.
Never say never!
Andy.

 

[wayne556517]

Hi Steve,
Talking of backpacks...
For what it's worth our ANZAC S.A.S. Troopers will have large packs.
And maybe, down the line, K&C will also do a figure or two with large packs.
Never say never!
Andy.

Something like this I hope mate but sleeves down {sm4}{sm4}
Still needs alot of work but its getting there,using this one for experimenting then I will PURCHASE the whole patrol and go from there,if thats ok with you Brett ^&grin^&grin





sorry about pic quality but like i said a work in progress.

 

[The Military Workshop]

No problem Wayne. Look forward to seeing your final patrol.

 

[Colonel RNZIR]

Our chaps had what we needed to get the job done.

 

[cks1]

Some pics I've scanned of Aussies in Vietnam with sleeves in various states as to suit themselves and the occasion.

Last photo adds a bit more interest with the troops showing off the different types of web equipment being used by Aussies, which in this pic shows British '44 Pattern webbing, 08/37 pattern probably with Aussie alteration and US M56

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Note the 30 round mag on the SLR, top pic.

Cheers.

 

[Horus]

Note the 30 round mag on the SLR, top pic.

Cheers.

And the MG ammo belts in improvised rubber covers.

Steve

 

[cks1]

And the MG ammo belts in improvised rubber covers.

Steve

Probably those useless blow up sections for the ground sheet!

 

[wayne556517]

Note the 30 round mag on the SLR, top pic.

Cheers.

Magnificent weapon what ever it hit stayed hit,the only time we carried 30 round mag was for the AR L2A1.

 

[johno7]

did i hear that there is a sasr vietnam patrol and a 105 artillery piece coming in the future???????

 

[King & Country]

did i hear that there is a sasr vietnam patrol and a 105 artillery piece coming in the future???????

I reckon you might be right, cobbler...I heard the very same thing!!!
All the best,
Andy.

 

[Horus]

I reckon you might be right, cobbler...I heard the very same thing!!!
All the best,
Andy.

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