The new Folgore (1 Viewer)

Guy said:
please no more black lines
Figures without lines but with hightlights and shadows = much better
guy
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It's disappointing that a majority of you supported this 'newer' less labour intensive painting style. If you look closely at the paint job of the gaiters, its just green without any washes/highlights.

I guess none of you have received the real thing and really have a close look at what I am trying to describe...
 
oberstoskar said:
It's disappointing that a majority of you supported this 'newer' less labour intensive painting style. If you look closely at the paint job of the gaiters, its just green without any washes/highlights.

I guess none of you have received the real thing and really have a close look at what I am trying to describe...
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I’m sorry but you are wrong wrong wrong wrong.

The new more natural painting style blows away the old black lines style and K&C should be lauded for the improvement. I’m pretty sure the sales and, as you say the majority, support this.
 
oberstoskar said:
It's disappointing that a majority of you supported this 'newer' less labour intensive painting style. If you look closely at the paint job of the gaiters, its just green without any washes/highlights.

I guess none of you have received the real thing and really have a close look at what I am trying to describe...
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And I would guess you don't seem to like it when the majority don't seem to agree with your personal opinion...However, you're still entitled to your point of view and in light of that can I extend a friendly invitation to come up to HQ in Hong Kong and discuss it in person with me next week...
What do you say, Oberstoskar..?
Best wishes and happy collecting!
Andy.
 
Any chance of the the new folgore moulds being painted in European colours ? Getting a bit sick of the Italians only being available in desert colours.

How about it Andy ?
 
Patton said:
Any chance of the the new folgore moulds being painted in European colours ? Getting a bit sick of the Italians only being available in desert colours.

How about it Andy ?
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Sorry, but no...I happen to like Italians in desert colours!
Andy.
 
Mark IV said:
And a lot more expensive

Mark
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Many thanks Mark...Although I welcome ALL suggestions...It doesn't mean I will agree with ALL of them.
There are many kinds of factors that go into what we do and COST plays a major factor in what we do...and how we do it.
Best wishes to ALL,
Andy.
 
King & Country said:
Many thanks Mark...Although I welcome ALL suggestions...It doesn't mean I will agree with ALL of them.
There are many kinds of factors that go into what we do and COST plays a major factor in what we do...and how we do it.
Best wishes to ALL,
Andy.
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Andy,

Wasn't a criticism in fact I don't mind paying extra for the camo just wanted fellow collectors to understand the more detail you request the more expensive the product becomes.

Seems to be a criticism of all manufacturers that they must provide more detail, better paints but want to argue about increasing costs

Mark
 
King & Country said:
Sorry, but no...I happen to like Italians in desert colours!
Andy.
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So the entire Italian campaign never existed ?? I suppose the Italians will be like the invisible Russians- you just have to pretend that they exist.
 
Patton said:
So the entire Italian campaign never existed ?? I suppose the Italians will be like the invisible Russians- you just have to pretend that they exist.
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Well Mr. 'P'...Nobody said 'the entire Italian Campaign never existed'...only you!

And just because something exists doesn't mean K&C or any other company come to that has to automatically jump to attention and reproduce it in miniature ...just because you want it...

As for the 'Invisible Russians'....Well maybe you've been asleep the last few years and somehow missed all the Russian armour and infantry that K&C has released while you were snoozing...Life's like that sometimes.
Adios for now,
Andy.
 
Well if you have an Italian campaign then you should have Italian troops.

As for invisible Russians, you may have missed MY point that prior to the recent releases the Russians WERE truly invisible. Perhaps Andy may care to remind the readers as to
a) when RA01 was released and.
b)the time gap between the release of RA015 and RA016
 
Patton said:
Well if you have an Italian campaign then you should have Italian troops.

As for invisible Russians, you may have missed MY point that prior to the recent releases the Russians WERE truly invisible. Perhaps Andy may care to remind the readers as to
a) when RA01 was released and.
b)the time gap between the release of RA015 and RA016
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I would say it was a business decision by K & C, the Russian vehicles and figures weren't as popular back then, maybe because of the age of collectors who remembered the Cold War era. In recent years we have seen a lot more interest in the Russian campaign, especially the Stalingrad and Kursk battles. Some TS companies such as First Legion that have closer relationships with Russians have increased the popularity with new product lines.
 
It's a business...you have to make what sells or eventually go under. I recall reading on this forum that Andy had said that Fallschirmjager don't sell too well, hence the big gaps over the years in their production.

That always surprised me as I would expect any and all Airborne troops to sell well - glad to see K&C taking the risk again, as the recent releases of Axis para's are great, and deserve to sell well.
 
Patton said:
Well if you have an Italian campaign then you should have Italian troops.

As for invisible Russians, you may have missed MY point that prior to the recent releases the Russians WERE truly invisible. Perhaps Andy may care to remind the readers as to
a) when RA01 was released and.
b)the time gap between the release of RA015 and RA016
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Where is the 'Italian Campaign' Mr.P.?

K&C has focused primarily on the Italian Forces for the Desert War with a few for Russia...Does that mean I have to extend into Italy as well..? Maybe one day we will but that will be K&C's decision...not someone else's.

As for 'missing your point' about the 'Invisible Russians'...I don't think so...
Release schedules vary and depend on a host of different factors of which you know little or nothing at all.

Every company alters and arranges its release schedules based on collector appeal, interest and sales which are monitored regularly and that is good business practise. It may not appeal to a few but it seems to work out for the many.
Andy.
 
Rudi Starnberg said:
It's a business...you have to make what sells or eventually go under. I recall reading on this forum that Andy had said that Fallschirmjager don't sell too well, hence the big gaps over the years in their production.

That always surprised me as I would expect any and all Airborne troops to sell well - glad to see K&C taking the risk again, as the recent releases of Axis para's are great, and deserve to sell well.
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Yes, indeed. Supply and demand. The manufacturer relies on sales to measure demand and is the only one privy to that information. But the decision to supply is totally dependent on that information. The lack of supply is a clue for purchasers as to the level of demand.
Andy has repeated often that 300 is the break even number, so the real question is what will drive a demand for 300 of the figure that I want?
One answer could be that one simply orders 300 and then relies on selling the excess himself. The most popular way to stir demand appears to be following the release of a strong movie. This has been successful on many occasions. FOB stagnates on and off but was aided by the movie Dunkirk. Look at what happened from Fury. The list is endless. Another Enemy at the Gates would help the RA series or perhaps another Cross of Iron. Or one could try their hand at manufacturing. Not easy but technology marches on. So there are options - it's just a matter of demand. How much do you really want that figurine?
 
Fitzgibbon said:
Yes, indeed. Supply and demand. The manufacturer relies on sales to measure demand and is the only one privy to that information. But the decision to supply is totally dependent on that information. The lack of supply is a clue for purchasers as to the level of demand.
Andy has repeated often that 300 is the break even number, so the real question is what will drive a demand for 300 of the figure that I want?
One answer could be that one simply orders 300 and then relies on selling the excess himself. The most popular way to stir demand appears to be following the release of a strong movie. This has been successful on many occasions. FOB stagnates on and off but was aided by the movie Dunkirk. Look at what happened from Fury. The list is endless. Another Enemy at the Gates would help the RA series or perhaps another Cross of Iron. Or one could try their hand at manufacturing. Not easy but technology marches on. So there are options - it's just a matter of demand. How much do you really want that figurine?
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Without a doubt a popular movie or a TV series can definitely help sales...However other factors also come into play...

Sometimes a maker can be 'ahead' of the market and the demand just isn't there...At other times the same maker can be 'behind' the market and has to play 'catch-up'...

And occasionally the maker is in the right place ...at the right time ...with the right product.
It's not an exact science alas as the market can be volatile...One aspect of trying to predict what might 'sell' is certainly Forums such as this...

However, this is just one area of consideration...Personally speaking I also enjoy and greatly value the personal contacts with a very broad spectrum of collectors in the U.S., Europe, Australia and right here in Asia to help form some, but not all, of the final decisions on what K&C will produce and...when we might produce it. It's all part of the 'mix' and I'm grateful for it.

Best wishes and happy collecting,
Andy.
 
Hi Andy

I appear to have hit a raw nerve. I sincerely apologise for making suggestions.

May I suggest a chill pill and "happy" collecting.
 
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