The Searchers (3 Viewers)

A good read as are some of Bob J's other reviews. Trouble is that when I think of Bob, I see General Hood ^&cool

^&grin^&grin^&grin

Aw! come on Brad I know you are not a Southern sympathiser but old Sam Hood was the best darn fightin' Divisional commander in Lee's army. True he wasn't so hot as a Corps commander although by then he had a crippled left arm (Gettysburg) and had lost his right leg (Chickamauga). At Franklin he was apparently quite a a pitiful sight (bit like me ^&grin).

Pleased you liked the review of TMWSLV for when the editor asks me to write a John Ford review the words/text easily flow but its when he asks me to review dross (a lousy movie) it becomes more difficult ^&confuse

Bob Hood
 
Very interesting article in today's Washington Post about The Searchers, preceding a weekend showing downtown by the AFI. Very complimentary about the movie and how it has become the gold standard of westerns and about how it maintains it's relevance to today's world with it's themes of gender, race, and sexual violence. It goes on to say that the film is not only considered to be the best western Hollywood has ever done, but one of the best films, period, that Hollywood has ever done. It is a favorite of Spielberg, Lucas, and Scorsese, who were all deeply influenced by it. The article is titled "Influential, acclaimed film 'The Searchers' remains relevant today" and is written by Glenn Frankel. -- Al
 
Al,

Can you post a link. Thanks.

Saw Liberty Valance last night on Netflix. A movie on many different levels like Bob said in his review. Ford even got a Civil Rights message in there when they wouldn't serve Pompey at the bar.

Ambition is a dangerous thing.
 
Al,

Can you post a link. Thanks.

Saw Liberty Valance last night on Netflix. A movie on many different levels like Bob said in his review. Ford even got a Civil Rights message in there when they wouldn't serve Pompey at the bar.

Ambition is a dangerous thing.
Brad, the link is outrageously long. Easiest thing to do is go to www.washingtonpost.com and go to the Lifestyle section on the black bar and click on it. The article is right on the front page of that section. -- Al
 
Al,

Can you post a link. Thanks.

Saw Liberty Valance last night on Netflix. A movie on many different levels like Bob said in his review. Ford even got a Civil Rights message in there when they wouldn't serve Pompey at the bar.

Ambition is a dangerous thing.
You mean they wouldn't serve him until "Tom" said to; even a benevolent gunslinger commands respect. I am no so sure that was either intended to or did serve as a civil rights message. Contrast that scene with Tom ordering Pompey away from school back to the ranch to finish painting the new extension. Like many movies, you can take many scenes in TMWSLV the way you like, well beyond their intent.

I do very much like the Searchers, as I have said, but I think the Post got a bit carried away, which it tends to do from time to time.
 
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You mean they wouldn't serve him until "Tom" said to; even a benevolent gunslinger commands respect. I am no so sure that was either intended to or did serve as a civil rights message. Contrast that scene with Tom ordering Pompey away from school back to the ranch to finish painting the new extension. Like many movies, you can take many scenes in TMWSLV the way you like, well beyond their intent.

I do very much like the Searchers, as I have said, but I think the Post got a bit carried away, which it tends to do from time to time.
The author of the article in the Washington Post, Glenn Frankel, is also the author of a book called "The Searchers: The Making of an American Legend", which is the book that Bob was talking about in post #1, to kick off this thread. I found it a very interesting article and I have the book on the way. I am very much looking forward to reading it. -- Al
 
I just read the article in the Post and learned a few more things. Would be fun to be able to be at the screening.

As for Liberty Valance, the movie was made in 1961 when African Americans were struggling for equal accomodations so I don't agree with you there but with respect to the two scenes, perhaps it shows the ambivalence he has. That is the great thing about movies and art: people can see different things in a work of art.

Brad
 
Wow what a movie this must be. I have this one in my collection and like it but have never seen it the way a lot of you guy's have. I must watch it again and take in all of it as there is a lot more to see . Chris.
 
Wow what a movie this must be. I have this one in my collection and like it but have never seen it the way a lot of you guy's have. I must watch it again and take in all of it as there is a lot more to see . Chris.
Afraid I do not have a artistic sould either Chris...I thought it was one of his worse movie's...cheers TomB
 
Afraid I do not have a artistic sould either Chris...I thought it was one of his worse movie's...cheers TomB

....one of his worse movies ^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse


Judas Priest Tom how many of Wayne's movies have you actually seen???????
 
....one of his worse movies ^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse^&confuse


Judas Priest Tom how many of Wayne's movies have you actually seen???????
How many did he make ? I have seen most of them including his early BW movies which I like (even have a couple on DVD).....John is best when he plays John....the Searchers was not a John movie.....if you want a moral movie...star Lesile Howard...Charles Laughton,,,even Arnie....not John....John is great at John...none better...at John than John...but John aint a non John actor......being it years since I saw S ,,,I remember when I went to see it I was expecting a John movie,,,, it was not the usual John movie so I was disappointed ...I was not deep into....analyzing movie's then ...nor am I now.... I like John better as John,,,,,,,,,Jimmy Stewart would have been good for that role (Jimmy was a very good cowboy......John for the action movies...Jimmy for the Moral movie's).....I admired John as a action actor....I was not impressed he did not join the Services in WW2 as did heaps of other actors...Jimmy for one (Lt Col ...B17 pilot...17 missions...but I guess you know that)...John,,,for action...not for acting....Heck ! ...I think I have "Broken" the J on the keyboard......Hey Reb...who's this Judas guy?.....cheers TomB
 
Wayne did 152 movies. He certainly has his share of bad movies, his share of 'non-John' roles. One of his worst was, IMO, 'The Conqueror', which, ironically, immediately preceded his best, (again my opinion), 'The Searchers'. Interesting that the low and high came together like that. -- Al
 
As I said I was not the biggest Wayne fan and I've only seen The Searchers once but even I know it's a great movie. To say it's his worst seems a little extreme but to each their own I suppose.
 
Wayne did 152 movies. He certainly has his share of bad movies, his share of 'non-John' roles. One of his worst was, IMO, 'The Conqueror', which, ironically, immediately preceded his best, (again my opinion), 'The Searchers'. Interesting that the low and high came together like that. -- Al

Yep, no doubt The Conqueror was his one of, if not the worst. It is good for laughs on a bad movie night.
 
I think that High Noon is a great Western but The Searchers is a great movie. It transcends the genre by moving beyond the stereotypes and offering quite a revolutionary take on the myth of the West. For all its iconic status, High Noon is quite a conventional story, albeit a very good one.

Was it Frankie Lane who sang an excellent version of 'High Noon'?
I think it was Frankie Lane who sang the movie version of High Noon..Tex Ritter also had a version of the song which in my opinion was the best version....I liked both versions....The Tex Ritter version sounded more western I suppose because he has a Yipeeee voice....Would like to hear a Frank Ifield version of HN....TomB
 
Just for interest what are the greatest western movies
Does anyone have a good list?
 
Here's a list from IMDB, http://www.imdb.com/list/k-gnJV0oHFg/

One of my favorite movies, which makes the list, is Lonely Are the Brave, with Kirk Douglas.

Another one I like, although not on this list, is Douglas' Last Train from Gun Hill.
 
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