The Searchers (2 Viewers)

[Jack]

Great song.....I have it on the Jukebox with a few more Western and WW2 related movie theme songs

[Cheers

Martyn

Another Johnny Horton fan ... excellent ... I thought I was the last!!

 

[GICOP]

Another Johnny Horton fan ... excellent ... I thought I was the last!!

:salute::

Now to find Sink the Bismarck ^&grin

Cheers

Martyn

 

[Jack]

:salute::

Now to find Sink the Bismarck ^&grin

Cheers

Martyn

Johnny Freedom, North to Alaska, Jim Bridger, The Battle of New Orleans, The Mansion You Stole, Commanche (The Brave Horse) - I love them all!

 

[lancer]

I'm a big Johnny Horton fan, too. His songs were the songs of my youth, down in the dirt with my Marx army men. Boy, do those songs bring back the memories. Bismarck and New Orleans were my favorites, along with Laine's Gunfight at the OK Corral.^&grin -- Al

 

[UKReb]

As I said I watched it with new eyes.
Will try and get hold of the Man who Shot Liberty Valance next.
ANyone have any comments or insights about that one I would read them with interest

Damian

Here's the link to a magazine article I wrote last year about Liberty Valance. You might be able to pick the bones of the story out of it.

http://www.stack.net.au/bobj-featur...-Corner-THE-MAN-WHO-SHOT-LIBERTY-VALANCE-1963

Bob

 

[Harper (aka Spitfrnd)]

I think that High Noon is a great Western but The Searchers is a great movie. It transcends the genre by moving beyond the stereotypes and offering quite a revolutionary take on the myth of the West. For all its iconic status, High Noon is quite a conventional story, albeit a very good one.

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That I don't see. I would actually reverse that statement. To me, High Noon also progressed beyond sterotypes since the Coop's marshall was hardly a conventional hero, nor did he fight like one. I think both had a fairly different take on the so-called myth of the West. I am not alone in this view. Consider the comments by Howard Hawks who very much disliked the film, "I made Rio Bravo because I didn't like High Noon. Neither did Duke. I didn't think a good town marshal was going to run around town like a chicken with his head cut off asking everyone to help. And who saves him? His Quaker wife. That isn't my idea of a good Western." No disrepect to the Duke or Hawks, fortunately most critics and filmlovers think otherwise.

 

[Harper (aka Spitfrnd)]

Damian

Here's the link to a magazine article I wrote last year about Liberty Valance. You might be able to pick the bones of the story out of it.

http://www.stack.net.au/bobj-featur...-Corner-THE-MAN-WHO-SHOT-LIBERTY-VALANCE-1963

Bob

Very topical for me, I just watched it again last night.

 

[Rob]

Bob,

Loved the link mate, great to read your article.

I've heard good things about the Duke's ' Red River', what do you reckon Bob?

Rob

 

[lancer]

Bob,

Loved the link mate, great to read your article.

I've heard good things about the Duke's ' Red River', what do you reckon Bob?

Rob

Rob, don't miss Red River if you are a western movie fan. It is one of Wayne's best. John Ford himself expressed admiration for the acting job Wayne did for Hawks (Red River Director). It is a terrific western centered around a cattle drive, but the real story is with the characters, especially the play between Wayne and Clift. It is well worth your time to watch. -- Al

 

[Jack]

I'm a big Johnny Horton fan, too. His songs were the songs of my youth, down in the dirt with my Marx army men. Boy, do those songs bring back the memories. Bismarck and New Orleans were my favorites, along with Laine's Gunfight at the OK Corral.^&grin -- Al

This was my introduction to Horton all those years ago!

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[Jack]

Bob,

Loved the link mate, great to read your article.

I've heard good things about the Duke's ' Red River', what do you reckon Bob?

Rob

Is it just me but is pretty much everyone on this Forum called Rob, Bob, Wayne or Scott?{sm4}

 

[jazzeum]

Is it just me but is pretty much everyone on this Forum called Rob, Bob, Wayne or Scott?{sm4}

Yes, it's you :wink2:

 

[damian]

Damian

Here's the link to a magazine article I wrote last year about Liberty Valance. You might be able to pick the bones of the story out of it.

http://www.stack.net.au/bobj-featur...-Corner-THE-MAN-WHO-SHOT-LIBERTY-VALANCE-1963

Bob

Thanks Bob
Will try and track down a copy and report back.

 

[damian]

That I don't see. I would actually reverse that statement. To me, High Noon also progressed beyond sterotypes since the Coop's marshall was hardly a conventional hero, nor did he fight like one. I think both had a fairly different take on the so-called myth of the West. I am not alone in this view. Consider the comments by Howard Hawks who very much disliked the film, "I made Rio Bravo because I didn't like High Noon. Neither did Duke. I didn't think a good town marshal was going to run around town like a chicken with his head cut off asking everyone to help. And who saves him? His Quaker wife. That isn't my idea of a good Western." No disrepect to the Duke or Hawks, fortunately most critics and filmlovers think otherwise.

YEs but that is why an ordinary sort of person can relate to High Noon. Most of people are not heroes just ordinary guys trying to get by but sometimes the ordinary guy is asked to do something out of the ordinary.

 

[Jack]

That I don't see. I would actually reverse that statement. To me, High Noon also progressed beyond sterotypes since the Coop's marshall was hardly a conventional hero, nor did he fight like one. I think both had a fairly different take on the so-called myth of the West. I am not alone in this view. Consider the comments by Howard Hawks who very much disliked the film, "I made Rio Bravo because I didn't like High Noon. Neither did Duke. I didn't think a good town marshal was going to run around town like a chicken with his head cut off asking everyone to help. And who saves him? His Quaker wife. That isn't my idea of a good Western." No disrepect to the Duke or Hawks, fortunately most critics and filmlovers think otherwise.

No disrespect to the Duke or Hawks? You disagreed with a third person - what about him? {sm4}{sm4}{sm4}

Seriously though, I love this discussion about movies. I am a big fan of Rio Bravo which I see as great entertainment rather than a classic as such. I just watched James Garner in 'Support Your Local Sheriff' which is a comic take on the Rio Bravo/High Noon scenario. Have you seen it?

 

[UKReb]

Bob,

Loved the link mate, great to read your article.

I've heard good things about the Duke's ' Red River', what do you reckon Bob?

Rob

Rob

I go with Al on this one and he's right about Ford's reaction in fact his comment after viewing Red River was "I never knew the big SOB could act".

Rob in my book (and many will disagree) Wayne made one masterpiece of a western which we have all been discussing and three great great westerns- Red River; Rio Bravo and She Wore A Yellow Ribbon. All four Wayne movies should be in any western cineophile's collection.

The rest for me are between downright entertaining (True Grit; The Horse Soldiers; Hondo; The Shootist etc). Amusing to watch on a wet Sunday afternoon ( The Sons of Katie Elder; McLintock; The Comancheros etc.) to absolutely puerile.(The Train Robbers; Big Jake; Rio Lobo etc) But then again that's just my opinion. ^&grin

Bob

 

[Rob]

Rob, don't miss Red River if you are a western movie fan. It is one of Wayne's best. John Ford himself expressed admiration for the acting job Wayne did for Hawks (Red River Director). It is a terrific western centered around a cattle drive, but the real story is with the characters, especially the play between Wayne and Clift. It is well worth your time to watch. -- Al

Thanks Al, the clip I saw looks good so will check this out.

Is it just me but is pretty much everyone on this Forum called Rob, Bob, Wayne or Scott?{sm4}

Sometimes we are called other things too!:wink2:

Rob

I go with Al on this one and he's right about Ford's reaction in fact his comment after viewing Red River was "I never knew the big SOB could act".

Rob in my book (and many will disagree) Wayne made one masterpiece of a western which we have all been discussing and three great great westerns- Red River; Rio Bravo and She Wore A Yellow Ribbon. All four Wayne movies should be in any western cineophile's collection.

The rest for me are between downright entertaining (True Grit; The Horse Soldiers; Hondo; The Shootist etc). Amusing to watch on a wet Sunday afternoon ( The Sons of Katie Elder; McLintock; The Comancheros etc.) to absolutely puerile.(The Train Robbers; Big Jake; Rio Lobo etc) But then again that's just my opinion. ^&grin

Bob

Blimey Bob, when you list them like that it dawns on me I may have been a bit harsh on the Duke as most of them are among my fave Westerns!{eek3} True Grit (you gotta love that)Rio Bravo , Horse Soldiers, The Shootist, The Sons of Katie Elder (every Christmas that was on and every Christmas we enjoyed it- there were only three tv channels in those days!:wink2 Love that scene in which the Duke lays out the bad guy with a pick axe handle, even now it looks painful but did I hear that it caused a stir when first aired for being a bit strong?

JW was the king of westerns and what he did he did well there is no doubt. I grew up watching JW and then when Mr Eastwood arrived on the scene his more violent,gritty Westerns offered a different appeal . Actually the scene I saw in Red River where JW shoots a guy down from his horse kind of reminded me of this classic Clint moment many years later;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZi4biEWgd8

JW did so much for the genre and deserves his place in its halls of fame. I saw an interview with him once that still makes me smile when I think of it. He had to tell his son he had cancer , he said ' Son i've got the big C ' to which his son replied ' You've got the clap'?!!^&grin

Rob

 

[larso]

"The Comancheros"

I loved this one! Though I think it had a lot to do with the theme music. So exciting!

 

[Harper (aka Spitfrnd)]

YEs but that is why an ordinary sort of person can relate to High Noon. Most of people are not heroes just ordinary guys trying to get by but sometimes the ordinary guy is asked to do something out of the ordinary.

Absolutely. I am not sure High Noon was the first to feature this but it certainly ran against the grain for Westerns up to that time. It is ironic that what bothered the Duke about it (to the point of calling it the most anti American film he had ever seen) was one of its greatest strengths. It also had a great touch of irony, Kane being saved by his Quaker pacifist wife Amy, Kane's former mistress giving Amy the courage to save Kane, among many others.

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Seriously though, I love this discussion about movies. I am a big fan of Rio Bravo which I see as great entertainment rather than a classic as such. I just watched James Garner in 'Support Your Local Sheriff' which is a comic take on the Rio Bravo/High Noon scenario. Have you seen it?

I have seen it several times. James had a great comedic touch and a great sense of timing, as so nicely displayed in his long runniing and still enjoyable Rockford Files Maverick series.

 

[lancer]

Absolutely. I am not sure High Noon was the first to feature this but it certainly ran against the grain for Westerns up to that time. It is ironic that what bothered the Duke about it (to the point of calling it the most anti American film he had ever seen) was one of its greatest strengths. It also had a great touch of irony, Kane being saved by his Quaker pacifist wife Amy, Kane's former mistress giving Amy the courage to save Kane, among many others.



I have seen it several times. James had a great comedic touch and a great sense of timing, as so nicely displayed in his long runniing and still enjoyable Rockford Files Maverick series.

I am a fan of Garner, as well. I really like Rockford. I think his Hour of the Gun and Duel at Diablo deserve a lot more attention than they have earned. -- Al