"Those are Regulars, by God!"...........Major General Phineas Riall (2 Viewers)

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"Those are Regulars, by God!"...........Major General Phineas Riall

The reported utterance of this phrase...was by an astonished Major General Phineas Riall.

Spoken as he realized his major tactical blunder, by assuming the American soldiers he now exchanged fire with (dressed in the drab "gray" coats), were instead those of the undisciplined and untrained levies, believing they would break and run after exchanging volleys with the disciplined British armies, they didn't.

Raill was astonished to find the new American army, led by Brigadier General Winfield Scott, adhering strongly to the rules of European-style warfare and not panicking and fleeing as before .

The armies are separated by only 100 meters and firing volleys into each other, but Scott's men did not yield.

Their devastating fire cost the British many officers, causing a confusion of command among in forward lines.

The Battle of Chippawa (sometimes incorrectly spelled Chippewa) was a victory for the United States Army in the War of 1812, during an invasion of Upper Canada along the Niagara River on July 5, 1814.

It is generally considered that Major General Phineas Riall, although misled as to the strength of the American forces and their quality, advanced overconfidently, and his mistaken tactics led to the heavy British casualties.
Some believe that the Corps of Cadets of the United States Military Academy at West Point wear the gray parade uniforms adopted in commemoration of Scott’s troops at Chippawa.

In early 1814, it was clear that Napoleon would soon be defeated in Europe, and seasoned British veteran soldiers from the Peninsular War would be redeployed to Canada.

The United States Secretary of War, John Armstrong, was eager to win a victory in Canada before British reinforcements arrived there.

Major General Jacob Brown was ordered to form the Left Division of the Army of the North.

Armstrong intended him to mount an attack on Kingston, the main British base on Lake Ontario, with a diversion by militia across the Niagara River to distract the British.

He had however drawn up alternate orders for a major attack across the Niagara, possibly as a contingency plan, but probably to mislead the British through deliberate leaks.

Brown considered he was being presented with two alternate plans, and was free to choose between them.

Although Brigadier General Edmund P. Gaines tried to persuade Brown to make the attack on Kingston, it proved impossible for Brown to gain any cooperation from Commodore Isaac Chauncey (commanding the American naval squadron based at Sackett's Harbor, New York) which was essential for any such attack.

Chauncey was waiting for new ships to be completed and refused to make any move before the middle of July. Brown therefore made the attack across the Niagara into the main effort.

Stationed at Buffalo, New York, near the head of the Niagara River, was Brigadier General Winfield Scott.

At Buffalo, Scott instituted a major training program .

He drilled his troops for ten hours every day, using the 1791 Manual of the French Revolutionary Army. (Prior to this, various American regiments had been using a variety of different manuals, making it difficult to maneuver any large American force).

Scott also purged his units of any remaining inefficient officers who had gained their appointments through political influence rather than experience or merit.

He insisted on proper camp discipline including sanitary arrangements.

This reduced the wastage from dysentery and other enteric diseases which had been heavy in previous campaigns.
He was thwarted in only one matter: he could not find enough blue uniforms for his men.

They had been shipped in plenty of time for once but had been diverted to Plattsburgh and Sackets Harbor, although enough were found from one source or another to clothe the 21st US Infantry.

Eventually Commissary General Callender Irvine had to have 2,000 uniforms hastily run up and sent to Buffalo, but there being insufficient blue cloth, short gray jackets were substituted.


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By early July, Brown's division was massed at the Niagara, in accordance with Armstrong's alternate orders.

Without cooperation from Chauncey, a direct attack on Fort George at the mouth of the Niagara was impossible.

Nor was it possible to land large numbers of troops on the southern side of the Niagara peninsula and advance on Burlington to cut off the British on the Niagara River, because the American squadron on Lake Erie (and the regular troops at Detroit) had been diverted to attempt the recapture of Fort Mackinac on Lake Huron.

Armstrong suggested that Brown should therefore capture and hold Fort Erie, opposite Buffalo, while waiting for Chauncey to ready his squadron.

Brown assented, but was prepared to push much further than the immediate vicinity of Fort Erie.

On July 3, Brown's army, consisting of the regular brigades commanded by Scott (with 1,377 men) and Brigadier General Eleazar Wheelock Ripley (with 1,082 men), and four companies of artillery numbering 327 men under Major Jacob Hindman, easily surrounded and captured Fort Erie which was defended only by two weak companies under Major Buck.

After a brigade of 753 volunteers from the militia under Brigadier General Peter B. Porter, together with 600 Iroquois, arrived on July 4, Scott began advancing north along the portage road alongside the Niagara River.

A British covering force under Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Pearson was easily driven back before they could destroy any of the bridges or block the road with fallen trees.

Late in the day, Scott encountered British defenses on the far bank of Chippawa Creek, near the town of Chippawa.

After a brief exchange of artillery fire, Scott withdrew a few miles to Street's Creek. Here he planned to give his troops a belated Fourth of July parade the next day, while Brown maneuvered other units to cross the Chippawa upstream.

Opposed to Scott was the Right Division of the British Army in Upper Canada, under Major General Phineas Riall. Riall believed that Fort Erie was still holding out, and the Americans would therefore have detached large numbers of troops to mask it, leaving only 2,000 men to face his division.

He may also have believed that his opponents were militia, but was comparatively new to command in Canada and relied on information from Lieutenant Colonel John Harvey, the Deputy Adjutant General for the forces in Upper Canada, that even the United States regulars were of poor quality.

Riall determined to cross the Chippawa River and mount an attack to drive the Americans back across the Niagara and relieve Fort Erie.

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Early on July 5, British light infantry, militia and Indians crossed the Chippawa ahead of Riall's main body and began sniping at Scott's outposts from the woods to their west. (Some of them nearly captured Scott, who was having breakfast in a farmhouse.)

Brown ordered Porter's brigade and Indians to clear the woods. They did so, but they met Riall's advancing regulars and hastily retreated.

Scott was already advancing from Street's Creek.

His artillery (Captain Nathaniel Towson's company, with three 12-pounder guns) deployed on the portage road and opened fire. Riall's own guns (two light 24-pounder guns and a 5.5-inch howitzer) attempted to reply, but Towson's guns destroyed an ammunition wagon and put most of the British guns out of action.

Meanwhile, Scott's troops deployed into line with the 25th U.S. Infantry on the left near the woods, the 11th U.S. Infantry and 9th U.S.

Infantry in the centre and the 22nd U.S. Infantry on the right with Towson's guns.

At first, Riall was under the impression that the American line was composed of grey-clad militia troops, whom the professional British soldiers held in much contempt. He expected the poorly trained soldiers to fall back in disarray after the first few volleys.

As the American line continued to hold steady under British artillery fire, Riall realized his error and supposedly exclaimed his famous phrase..............

"Those are regulars, by God!"

The British infantry, with the 1/1st (Royal Scots) Foot and the 100th Foot leading and the 1/8th (King's) Foot in reserve, were advancing very awkwardly and becoming bunched and disordered, because Riall had formed them into line for an advance over uneven ground with some very long grass instead of keeping them in column, in which they could have advanced more rapidly.

Advancing in line meant that Riall's troops moved more slowly and were under fire from the American artillery for longer.

The only benefit of using the line formation instead of column was that it increased firepower, yet Riall sacrificed even this advantage by ordering his infantry to fire only one volley before closing with the bayonet.

As the redcoats of the 1/1st and 100th Regiments lumbered forward, their own artillery had to stop firing in order to avoid hitting them.

Meanwhile, the American gunners switched from firing round shot to firing canister, with lethal consequences for the British infantry.

Once the opposing lines had closed to less than 100 yards apart, Scott advanced his wings, forming his brigade into a "U" shape which allowed his flanking units to catch Riall's advancing troops in a heavy crossfire.

Both lines stood and fired repeated volleys; after 25 minutes of this pounding Riall, his own coat pierced by a bullet, was forced to order a withdrawal.

The 1/8th, which had been moving to the right of the other two regiments, formed line to cover their retreat.

As they in turn fell back, three British 6-pounder guns came into action to cover their withdrawal, with two more 6-pounders firing from the entrenchments north of the Chippawa.

Scott halted his brigade, although some of Porter's Iroquois pursued the British almost to the Chippewa.

British casualties were heavy, the battle of Chippewa, and the subsequent Battle of Lundy's Lane, proved that American regular units could hold their own against British regulars if properly trained and well led.


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Very nice dio. Those 1812 figures look really good in mass formation and the photos are very efficient at bringing out the details of the figures. -- Al
 
Yea Al......

Thanks.....

I really like John's US Regulars, their soil stained knees and cuffs, the "US" emblem on their back packs and the crisp painting.

The clarity of the painting is especially nice.

The unusual poses are pretty unique too, especially the wounded.

They are some of my favorite figures, but I never see anybody showing photos of them on here.

Does anybody else collect them?
 
Mike
You are the dark horse of this forum.
We have The Lt, UK Reb, Carlos who we all now and love and now you are quietly slipping in these absolutely superb photos and dioramas. Good for you.
The Indian fire side scene was great and this is fantastic.
As an aside I presume those British line regiments would go fine in a Waterloo display.
I may have to think about getting some
Thanks for posting.
 
Mike
You are the dark horse of this forum.
We have The Lt, UK Reb, Carlos who we all now and love and now you are quietly slipping in these absolutely superb photos and dioramas. Good for you.
The Indian fire side scene was great and this is fantastic.
As an aside I presume those British line regiments would go fine in a Waterloo display.
I may have to think about getting some
Thanks for posting.

Dark horse and the World No.1 collector of JJD figures to boot! ;):):)

Jeff
 
Miss this yesterday and again earlier this morning while scouting the forum with my first cup of coffee. Once again my friend another well done story of an historial event using your JJ sets and figures in another batch of great photos telling it. Thanks Michael for sharing your playtime with us....Josephieee The Lt.
 
What can I say that hasn't already been said? Mike--you continue to astound us with your superbly done dio's.

Mark
 
Thank you Damien, Jeff, Titus, Joe and Mark.

Your positive comments are greatly appreciated.:D
 
Mike
You are the dark horse of this forum.
We have The Lt, UK Reb, Carlos who we all now and love and now you are quietly slipping in these absolutely superb photos and dioramas. Good for you.
The Indian fire side scene was great and this is fantastic.
As an aside I presume those British line regiments would go fine in a Waterloo display.
I may have to think about getting some
Thanks for posting.


Damian............John Jenkins does not post on this thread, but he reads it occasionally.

I cut and pasted an excerpt from an email below that he sent me today, which may answer your question about Waterloo.

"Enjoyed reading your Chippewa thread again this morning, and if you haven't read Donald Graves "Red Coats and Grey Jackets" you must. I also noted that someone mentioned if these British figures could be used for Waterloo. The Royal Scott's had a battalion at Waterloo, which if I seem to remember were in Pictons Division, on the left."

I hope that helps.

PS..................thank you Darrell (aka...mk26gmls)
 
Mike

What a great collection you have there ! WOW - Such numbers - IMPRESSIVE ! :D

I also collect the 1812 Figures - although I haven't bought any of the British as of yet. Here is my small display of my guys.
 

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I can't say anything more about this thread that others before me have already said. Very nicely done my friend :).
Mike
 
Thank you Martyn...thank you Mike...thank you Ron....

I love your collection to Ron.....especially your blockhouses.

I never bought the blockhouse and wish I had.

If you ever grow tired of yours, let me know.
 
As an aside I presume those British line regiments would go fine in a Waterloo display. I may have to think about getting some .

The British will look fine in a Waterloo type dio .. hope you like

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Mike - Nicely done, as awlays!!

As for myself, I only collect the American Side is hopes of Seminoles or Creeks sometime in the future. Unsure about Fallen Timbers.

I saw the Quebec Gate and thought -- OMG, MIKE!!! HE WILL START COLLECTED PoA AND HE WILLING BE GETTING HIS BRICK MAKING FACTORY ON-LINE AGAIN!!! (yeah, I know you don't collect Quebec, but bricks and gates are so you!!!)
 

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