To Mix or not to Mix???? That is the question???? (1 Viewer)

I mix my FL & WB ACW figures often and find that they blend very well together . . .
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I mix my King & Country and First Legion Crusades range figures and feel they blend together very well.
 
Guys, I'm guessing Frank started this thread as a dig at me as I started the same thread over on K&C. Just for the record, I have never and would never insult FL products or their collectors, in fact I've only ever said good things about their Romans, Crusaders and in my opinion their best range the ACW.

My thread was simply to discuss who displays what with what.Some do and some don't, I thought this forum was about collecting and the different styles and procedures collectors adopt.

Rob
 
Guys, I'm guessing Frank started this thread as a dig at me as I started the same thread over on K&C. Just for the record, I have never and would never insult FL products or their collectors, in fact I've only ever said good things about their Romans, Crusaders and in my opinion their best range the ACW.

My thread was simply to discuss who displays what with what.Some do and some don't, I thought this forum was about collecting and the different styles and procedures collectors adopt.

Rob

I think the thread was ok on the k&C section . I have replied on both . Simmo.
 
could someone please explain to me how if a person says they don't like K&C or FL or any other manufacturers figures because they are either historically incorrect, painted poorly, have stupid faces or just plain made up or similar similar why this really annoys some folks or, why the seeming fued between the two still exists????

If someone says to me K&C are pants or FL are great or, vice- versa I don't immediately go off on one who cares??

Since I joined the forum and well before there seems some who just want to ensure the stupid argument that only exists between K&C and FL cannot be laid to rest. There are enough crazies on both side who wish to defend against any word said against these manufacturers.

I often hear of looking in the hypothetical mirror at oneself and it really does apply to several on both sides here. but, really, please explain to me how this really annoys. Its stupid and bizzarre. There is enough room for both makers and they are totally different in what they offer. Its stupid that we cannot discuss the good and bad without thinking we have robbed a granny or similar. It does not happen with CS, TG Figarti, et al only these two.

They both make plenty of errors and plenty of good stuff so, answers on a postcard please as its gone on for many many years and looks like!!
Mitch
 
Guys, I'm guessing Frank started this thread as a dig at me as I started the same thread over on K&C. Just for the record, I have never and would never insult FL products or their collectors, in fact I've only ever said good things about their Romans, Crusaders and in my opinion their best range the ACW.

My thread was simply to discuss who displays what with what.Some do and some don't, I thought this forum was about collecting and the different styles and procedures collectors adopt.

Rob

Not a dig Rob....But since I can only respond on this side of the forum....I started this thread....The issue of mixing TS companies has been addressed quite a few times on this forum....With generally the same conclusions...NONE.... K/C style at 1:28th scale seems to go well with CS and Thomas Gunn.....First Legion being 1:30th for the most part is a stand alone product.....The style of sculpt and painting for First Legion WWII figures is more detailed and weathered....(More realistic and less toy like IMO).....The FL style is more likely to appeal to the modeler as does the Figarti AFV style. However I do have quite a bit of K/C in my collection. I do not mix K/C and First Legion because they just are too different.....So my view on the "mixing issue" is that I do not mix my K/C collection with my First Legion collection....They are both displayed separately in my curio cabinets and I like them BOTH where they are.....I am glad that K/C has decided to do more Field Grey German figures.....I have been requesting these for years as have other K/C collectors........So I will very likely be purchasing some "GREY" K/C in the near future to go with my prior FOB purchases....However...I will likely buy more FL since that has been the direction of my purchases the past 2-3 years......Buy what you like and mix if you want......(Louis Badolato gave the best response)...... Best Regards Frank
 
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Not a dig Rob....But since I can only respond on this side of the forum....I started this thread....The issue of mixing TS companies has been addressed quite a few times on this forum....With generally the same conclusions...NONE.... K/C style at 1:28th scale seems to go well with CS and Thomas Gunn.....First Legion being 1:30th for the most part is a stand alone product.....The style of sculpt and painting for First Legion WWII figures is more detailed and weathered....(More realistic and less toy like IMO).....The FL style is more likely to appeal to the modeler as does the Figarti AFV style. However I do have quite a bit of K/C in my collection. I do not mix K/C and First Legion because they just are too different.....So my view on the "mixing issue" is that I do not mix my K/C collection with my First Legion collection....They are both displayed separately in my curio cabinets and I like them BOTH where they are.....I am glad that K/C has decided to do more Field Grey German figures.....I have been requesting these for years as have other K/C collectors........So I will very likely be purchasing some "GREY" K/C in the near future to go with my prior FOB purchases....However...I will likely buy more FL since that has been the direction of my purchases the past 2-3 years......Buy what you like and mix if you want......(Louis Badolato gave the best response)...... Best Regards Frank

Frank, first thanks for your view. Secondly as someone who is a huge fan of FL as yourself its good to be able to discuss preferences and differences in a decent adult tone, its something I appreciate very much. Finally let me assure you there was no ' hidden message' ' secret code' ' anti agenda' in my post at all. The reason there was no ' anti' agenda is that I had nothing to be ' anti' about! I just wondered how other folk went about their displays. Its good to know there are adult collectors of FL out there who can actually hold a discussion without sensing conspiracy.

Best

Rob
 
Well I have a different answer here than on the K&C similar thread. If I had my choice I would NOT mix FL they are an entinty un to themselves. But their affordability is a problem, so I am frantically evaluating all of my AFV's by other manufacturers to see what can be used with them to keep costs down, and I seem to be finding some close enough matches.

But my actual answer would be no, I would not mix them if I had the funds to go all FL and accomplish my collection goal, which is based around placing my collection in scenes. I will NOT just pile a bunch of figures and AFV's on my shelves, they all have to be in a setting.


And everything else is hit and miss. Mostly trying to favor my Figarti and TGM stuff.

I am finally getting my display area together and pre planning future scenes with the matches I have come up with. What ever does not fit in the end is being sold and future purchases will be carefully planned. Alex
 
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could someone please explain to me how if a person says they don't like K&C or FL or any other manufacturers figures because they are either historically incorrect, painted poorly, have stupid faces or just plain made up or similar similar why this really annoys some folks or, why the seeming fued between the two still exists????

If someone says to me K&C are pants or FL are great or, vice- versa I don't immediately go off on one who cares??

Since I joined the forum and well before there seems some who just want to ensure the stupid argument that only exists between K&C and FL cannot be laid to rest. There are enough crazies on both side who wish to defend against any word said against these manufacturers.

I often hear of looking in the hypothetical mirror at oneself and it really does apply to several on both sides here. but, really, please explain to me how this really annoys. Its stupid and bizzarre. There is enough room for both makers and they are totally different in what they offer. Its stupid that we cannot discuss the good and bad without thinking we have robbed a granny or similar. It does not happen with CS, TG Figarti, et al only these two.

They both make plenty of errors and plenty of good stuff so, answers on a postcard please as its gone on for many many years and looks like!!
Mitch


Not one person stated any kind of issue in this thread Mitch, everybody has stated if they mix or do not mix, but once again it seems you have to stir a pot somewhere to try and cause a argument, I really REALLY try not to comment on any of your posts, please take your drama somewhere else, we don't need your baiting on a thread that has been very civil from the start...Sammy
 
Not baiting or drama or argument starting. simply responding one step further than Rob as he asumed the thread was aimed at him and, now its been explained thats it. Is a very valid question though which, many won't answer or hope to ignore but, anyone who has a knowledge of the history of the forum and looking at the threads will see what I was saying is based not on fancy assumptions at all. The mine is better than yours does derive between these two manufacturers and would be interesting to see what others think is the reason as its madness to me and, have just spoken about this very point to another Big FL collector in recent days.
Mitch

Not one person stated any kind of issue in this thread Mitch, everybody has stated if they mix or do not mix, but once again it seems you have to stir a pot somewhere to try and cause a argument, I really REALLY try not to comment on any of your posts, please take your drama somewhere else, we don't need your baiting on a thread that has been very civil from the start...Sammy
 
I find FL figures have a very high degree of detail in painting, sculpting and anatomical scale that is hard to match with most lower cost options. I think it is related to their seeming orientation toward a more scale modeling approach than the others. That said, I have found some releases from some manufacturers that fit pretty well with them, depending on how they are arranged. Size of course, is another consideration. I have had what I consider to be successful results with some pairings with some Britains and some K&C and most recently Country Honor. They do fit more easily with more expensive Russian items but I have yet to see the cost benefit of that for any combination yet.
 
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I mix First legion with FOV tanks and trucks. I like the look . Simmo.

Simmo, this is something I keep debating about doing myself. While I'm totally sold on FL figures and AFV's, I keep thinking about adding FOV Opels/Kubels (and love that new Krupp Protze) etc...to the mix to add some other vehicles into dios @ and make my budget go a bit further.
I'd welcome more comments/thoughts about this.
Otherwise, I'm doing some mixing w/Figarti Armor w/FL and of course KC Crusaders with FL's series.
mike
 
Mike


My partner Nick and I are heavily evaluating what you just spoke of, we have no conclusive result as of yet, but combining other manufacturers wilh FL will stretch your dollar, especially if you use FOV. In the begining of our study we thought FOV was an excellent match, and we are going with that a bit, but we are finding other interesting and possibly better matches, we just need to do a lot more research.

This size thing as far as all manufacturers go is a nightmare, but there are solutions out there.

For example check JJD's SCW Panzer 1's they Look excellent with FL. We just repainted a few of them for WWII and used the decal sets we produced, the result was excellent. They can be used for France, Poland or The East. And I have no trouble stating that JJD's Panzers are of the quality of FL, they are excellent. Alex
 
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Mike


My partner Nick and I are heavily evaluating what you just spoke of, we have no conclusive result as of yet, but combining other manufacturers wilh FL will stretch your dollar, especially if you use FOV. In the begining of our study we thought FOV was an excellent match, and we are going with that a bit, but we are finding other interesting matches, we just need to do a lot more research.

This size thing as far as all manufacturers go is a nightmare, but there are solutions out there.

For example check JJD's SCW Panzer 1's they Look excellent with FL. We just repainted a few of them with WWII markings, The result was excellent. They can be used for France, Poland or The East. ANd I have no trouble stating that JJD's Panzers are of the quality of FL, they are excellent. Alex

Thanks much Alex, I'll look very forward to your research findings. I've admired those Panzer 1's you mentioned and have wondered the same thing-good to know ! Anyone tried the new TG Opel Blitz w/FL ?
mike
 
Thanks much Alex, I'll look very forward to your research findings. I've admired those Panzer 1's you mentioned and have wondered the same thing-good to know ! Anyone tried the new TG Opel Blitz w/FL ?
mike


Your welcome.....................As soon as the TG Opels come in we will be on it. You will see a lot of our findings in upcoming multi manufacturer scenes. Alex
 
Guys, I'm guessing Frank started this thread as a dig at me as I started the same thread over on K&C. Just for the record, I have never and would never insult FL products or their collectors, in fact I've only ever said good things about their Romans, Crusaders and in my opinion their best range the ACW.

My thread was simply to discuss who displays what with what.Some do and some don't, I thought this forum was about collecting and the different styles and procedures collectors adopt.

Rob

Never would have thought that of you. While you and I haven't had much chance to correspond (beyond comparing our spinal issues-lol), I've always found your board postings to be of good cheer and positive influence to our hobby. It's always fun to discuss how we can stretch/mix & match in this hobby.
mike
 
044.JPG051.JPG054.JPG070.JPG003.JPGI have no problem mixing the different manufactures together as long as it works for me. The Lines I collect from FL ,Crusaders and Romans work well with some of the other Toy Soldier companys out there.My Crusader "Siege of Acre 1191" Diorama I have FL and K&C and also a Conte catapult ,and it works for me.I think the trick is keeping the FL figures together and the same with K&C figures when they are in battle with each.For some reason Matt, which helped me, scaled the FL Crusaders pretty close to the K&C line of Crusaders, in my opinion any way.Its seems to me that the FL figures are a higher detailed shaded painted figure,where the K&C is a more brightly painted figure. As for the FL Romans they go great size wise with the CS Romans and also Contes Romans.That will help me greatly when I do a large Roman vs Barbarian Diorama in the future,but they do not match up well with the K&C Romans which are larger that I have in my Collection.Thats just my point of view,not intended to slight any one.As you can tell I enjoy Ancient figures and wish Matt would do more different lines of them,such as Alexander the Great vs Persains,Greeks vs Greeks,even the War of Troy, especially the way Matt creates his figures.First time blogger here,Hope I didn't offend anyone.Here are a few pictures of my Crusader diorama,so that you can view the mixing of the figures.I think I'm getting a blister on my finger from all this typing.
 

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