US/Israel Launches Op Epic Fury Against Iran (5 Viewers)

[Horus]

I'm sure the U.S. Navy is much more comfortable with blockading Iranian ports knowing that Iran's navy, air force and most of their missile launching capabilities have been destroyed. Those billions of dollars were much "better spent" than the billions that were sent to Iran on pallets of crisp new hundred dollars and in the form of unfrozen Iranian assets.

B.

Iran certainly will have lost many of their missile launchers kept underground when their underground facilities were bombed at the start and of course the specialist who'd be needed to launch missiles and others who the regime stationed in these underground facilities as well, so could explain in part, why the Iranian regime have bought in Iraqis, Afghans and Pakistani militia friendly to the IRGC to keep a lid on the ordinary Iranian people who the regime kept down having killed tens of thousands when they demonstrated as well as the thousands they've been executing in order to stay in power.

 

[Combat]

What a day for Trump and America. The Dow is surging, oil prices are plunging, it sounds like there is a deal to keep the straits open and end Iran's nuclear program. Wow. It was messy but if this comes together more progress has been made in a few weeks than the last 50 years. Will any credit be given? Of course not.

 

[jazzeum]

Oil prices are down because the straits are open because of the cease fire in Lebanon but that only lasts 10 days. Hezbollah is not a party to it but is respecting it so far but that can change.

Nothing has otherwise been agreed to which is the parties are supposed to have a meeting this weekend.

Trump is being optimistic but then he’s also said that the war is over and changed his mind so many times I’d take anything he says with a grain of salt until there is a deal.

 

[Combat]

Some pundit on CNN a couple of weeks ago argued that gas prices would not return to pre conflict levels until 2036! You have to wonder if he was just trying to spin this in the most negative light for political purposes or that he was a shill for the oil companies. Oil prices are below $90 per barrel today. Will CNN be putting an oil price ticker on their website to track the dramatic fall in oil prices as they did when they increased. Let me guess - no. The "genocide" also didn't occur.

 

[Combat]

Oil prices are down because the straits are open because of the cease fire in Lebanon but that only lasts 10 days. Hezbollah is not a party to it but is respecting it so far but that can change.

Nothing has otherwise been agreed to which is the parties are supposed to have a meeting this weekend.

Trump is being optimistic but then he’s also said that the war is over and changed his mind so many times I’d take anything he says with a grain of salt until there is a deal.

When you are dealing with murderous fanatics, nothing is ever certain but the signs are good. The blockade on Iran made them cry uncle. That put the squeeze on China who has the influence to make them stand down. At the very least, this is finally heading in a positive direction that our media would never have conceded possible for the last few weeks. It was doom and gloom and WWIII. Instead this might very well end with Iran giving up its nuclear ambitions and much of its offensive capacity in ruin. A massive accomplishment that certainly exceeds anything from the decades long efforts in places like Vietnam and Afghanistan that resulted in no tangible gain.

 

[Buster]

Some pundit on CNN a couple of weeks ago argued that gas prices would not return to pre conflict levels until 2036! You have to wonder if he was just trying to spin this in the most negative light for political purposes or that he was a shill for the oil companies. Oil prices are below $90 per barrel today. Will CNN be putting an oil price ticker on their website to track the dramatic fall in oil prices as they did when they increased. Let me guess - no. The "genocide" also didn't occur.

For those with stage 4 TDS like the "pundits" of CNN, NPR, the mainstream media, congressional dems, Jimmy Kimmel, Tom Freidman, etc, etc, etc it's far more desirable that Trump and Netanyahu lose ... than the U.S., Israel and the entire civilized world defeat the murdering Iranian nut-jobs.

B.

 

[mikemiller1955]

When you are dealing with murderous fanatics, nothing is ever certain but the signs are good. The blockade on Iran made them cry uncle. That put the squeeze on China who has the influence to make them stand down. At the very least, this is finally heading in a positive direction that our media would never have conceded possible for the last few weeks. It was doom and gloom and WWIII. Instead this might very well end with Iran giving up its nuclear ambitions and much of its offensive capacity in ruin. A massive accomplishment that certainly exceeds anything from the decades long efforts in places like Vietnam and Afghanistan that resulted in no tangible gain.

Doug...you're being pretty bullish on a possible quick end to this...there are still more than a few concessions that Iran has balked on agreeing to...I hope you are right and this expensive war and loss of American lives is on the cusp of ending...now that we have finally come to a temporary cease fire is a good start...but I'm not as optimistic right now as you are...I have been hearing over and over how this war has been finished for over 1 1/2 months now...I hope you are right and all our points on an end of war are met...but I'm not celebrating yet...not hardly...

 

[jazzeum]

The two sides are working on a document that establishes a framework for negotiations. The document or memo would set a 60-day window for further talks to resolve matters including the Iran’s nuclear program and Iran’s demands for relief from U.S. economic sanctions.

However, because of the complexity of matters requiring negotiation such retrieving Iran’s 970 pounds of highly enriched uranium, 60 days is pretty aggressive.

In addition, they are going to need to nail down every detail — that’s why treaties take long to negotiate — but the US team doesn’t inspire confidence in that regard. In previous attempts at negotiating other conflicts they haven’t nailed down every detail and those efforts floundered. The recent Iran cease fire is a perfect example. The negotiators didn’t get Lebanon right.