What are you Favorite K&C AWI Regiments or Releases? (3 Viewers)

[The Military Workshop]

Great thread guys. I think this post is No 100 so just thought I would drop in.

Enjoyed the dios and displays. Not a series that does much for me personally but I would collect any leader figures made. I know a very knowledgeable collector who reads the forum and if he is reading this I know he will have greatly enjoyed this thread.

Keep it up.

Regards
Brett

 

[Larry Allen]

Thanks for the compliment Larry! I think we have many forum members who do a fantastic job with dio's.

As for which series I'd like to see first off, my picks are #11 (PA regiment) & #18 (Calvary sets). Reading that you have roughly 1,500 K&C AWI figures sounds astounding to me. I think I have but a mere 350 total figures from all manufactures that I collect.

Good luck photographing everything. That should be quite a challenge depending on the size of the series but I'm sure you're up for the task. I can't wait to see it all!!!

Mark

Afternoon Mark,

Interesting that you chose the PA Regiment (AR06 thru AR10).
PA/ NY Regiment Facts:
* PA Regiment is one of the smallest represented Regiments that K&C has done, with only (5) sets. The NY Regiment has only (6) sets with the Flag bearer coming after.

* PA has no Officer figure, all the others do
* PA has no Fifer figure, although that is true with about 50%/50% of the sets
* PA has no Flag figure, all the others (except Militia and Backwoodsmen) have flag bearer
* PA has -- [Standing / Ready & Kneeling / Firing] while NY has – [Standing / Firing & Kneeling / Ready]
* PA has a drummer figure while the NY does not.
* Neither the PA nor the NY Regiments have a marching figure.
* The figures from NY and PA are the same sculpt with differnet color pants and backpacks (also true looking at French

Sure I will move it up in the list.

Larry

 

[Larry Allen]

Great thread guys. I think this post is No 100 so just thought I would drop in.

Enjoyed the dios and displays. Not a series that does much for me personally but I would collect any leader figures made. I know a very knowledgeable collector who reads the forum and if he is reading this I know he will have greatly enjoyed this thread.

Keep it up.

Regards
Brett

Thanks Brett, nice to know we have a follower from the other Hemisphere.

Tell Wayne, and Howard and Tom and all the rest of you Australian chaps (or is it blokes) to get cracking and get many AWI sets so ANDY will make AWI releases for frequent!
{sm0}

They are too hung up on this Australian Light Horse series. Besides, who ever would believe that Australian horses are lighter than American horses??? ^&confuse (Unless it is because of all the McDonalds food we feed them).

Okay, that should light a fire!!!

Larry

 

[Cornwallis]

Larry, I am personally looking forward to seeing all the sets, but for me the stand out has got to be the x6 supply wagons and the dragoons! ^&grin

Then the currently available 23rd Royal Welch Fusiliers, think I have only seen OD's collection apart from my own small collection (so far)!

Thanks

 

[Larry Allen]

Larry, I am personally looking forward to seeing all the sets, but for me the stand out has got to be the x6 supply wagons and the dragoons! ^&grin

Then the currently available 23rd Royal Welch Fusiliers, think I have only seen OD's collection apart from my own small collection (so far)!

Thanks

The countdown continues ... 30, 29, 28, 27, 26, 25, 24, 23, 22, 21 …… 15, 14 ………….. {sm2}

The supply wagons are really nice. The lacking piece is a seated driver at the reins.

I have some JJD BAL series wagons that will also go with the K&C wagons. I won't show them in the first go-around of displays since I want it to be all K&C, but I can see a lot of potential in mixing those with the AWI sets and vice-versa with the 1812 sets. I see a lot of fun in the coming weeks.

I have also been building a few diorama pieces. If you look and see my humble attempts of a while ago in the JJD 1812 thread – “The Road to Chippawa, there are few of them there.

I have made a bridge over a river and a side piece of the river banks, wood piles, log fortifications, a few table, benches and other furniture as well as stone walls and shrubbery. I have been out in my back 40 picking up sticks for fort walls, cabins and such. That will be a winter fun project

Actually, I have seven wagons as I miscounted so we will have a true Wagon Train.
I can throw them in earlier also.

Funny the wagon is the only (unarmored) fighting vehicle we have. Hummmmm …. Maybe I can throw a cannon in the back and say it was “really” the first tank???

As we spoke before, I would love to find some more 16th Light Dragoons as my sampling beyond the wagons sets, is rather poor. I would also love to find the variation of the BR60 figure.

Do you guys like the newer releases or the older releases? For example BR01 versus BR79
Larry

 

[Larry Allen]

Thanks Larry

This is not the way to do it then ? ... {sm2}

Good Evening (at least here) gents.
Hey Sir,
Hey the way I look at it, whatever looks good and is fun that is the RIGHT way. {sm4}

I am sure there are regulations for this and that, but it is fun to BREAK THE RULES and so what makes you happy ... do it.

I believe that I read in a book someplace that the King’s colors are on the right, but so what.:rolleyes2:
I have seen paintings and other drawings that show if differently.

Artistic License???? Maybe, but if it works than great.

I love your dio you showed.
The flag carriers look superb. That is one heck of a firing line and the mirror doubles that force. They are bristled like an aggravated porcupine!!!!
Larry

 

[OldDragon]

Good Evening ....

That is one heck of a firing line and the mirror doubles that force. They are bristled like an aggravated porcupine!!!!
Larry

Ah then sir, you should see what's on the other side of that stone fence{sm3}.

I have posted before elsewhere .. but I will look the pic up and re-post here for our mutual enjoyment.

Best wishes
OD

 

[Cornwallis]

Larry, I quite agree would have been nice to have a seated figure with the wagon sets, also I have scoured other ranges for a suitable figure to use and the best I could come up with was sawing a majority of the legs off of a Del Prado British Marine and using him as a 'British Regular' wagon driver, still not great would have preferred a proper figure!

With regards to preferences on new/old releases I only really started collecting maybe 5/6 years ago so I came in as the Dragoons and the BR034 + were available, so that was my starting point, however obviously figure quality is improving all the time, but I am glad I came into collecting AWI figures from that point.

Right I am off to check out that JJD BAL wagon and Chippawa diorama!

 

[Larry Allen]

Afternoon guys,
In just a few years K&C has made many advances in their Toy Soldier production.

I posted a few pictures (below) from Sager's site, which is a great place for viewing older releases. We can see how the scuplting, posing and painting has changed over the years. I have a hard time deciding which ones I like the best and swing like a pendulum clock, back and forth.
At the moment I still think I am partial to the original releases .... they just seem a bit more like my Armies of the past.

HOW ABOUT YOU? --- >

Larry


Here are two K&C figures from the AWI series - Royal Welsh Fusiliers
The top one is the newer BR079 standing shooting and the bottom is the original BR001 standing shooting.

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Here are two K&C figures from the AWI series - Contential Marines
The top one is the newer AR045 Standing shooting and the bottom is the original AR021 standing shooting.

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Here are two K&C figures from the AWI series - 1st NY Regiment
The top one is the newer AR038 Standing shooting and the bottom is the original AR04 standing shooting.

 

[REVWARBUFF]

Good question Larry and way to go in keeping this thread alive.

I'm voting for the newer figures. Maybe that's because I am relatively new to the hobby having been in since 2005 and have been most familiar with the newer ones. (This is actually the first time I've seen the older figures). The older ones look good but in my opinion K&C has gotten better over the years.

Mark

 

[OldDragon]

Larry

In answer to your question about the newer sculpts versus older ones .. I will have to choose those going back 5-6 years such as the Continental Marines and 1st NY. Whilst I really cannot comment on the very early figures as I have none, the latest Welsh Fusiliers are IMHO a bit on the "portly" side ...

Meanwhile, as promised, a view of the few on the other side of the fence ...

Bests
OD

 

[Cornwallis]

Thats really cool OD, I don't think I can recall seeing anyone's collection of the Rhode Island regiment on TF, I had to pass up on them completely as I was desperately trying to purchase BR61 & BR40's before they retired, therefore I am really looking forward to what K&C are bringing out next on the American side.

I really hope it isn't a french regiment though as you are pretty restricted as to what battles you can use them in...

Also another vote for newer figures, I think the poses are more fluid now.... :wink2:

 

[RISORGIMENTO]

very nice picture OD, one of my favorite periods
Carlo

 

[Cornwallis]

OD/Larry I got back the reply from the National Army Museum about order of colours and looks like we were correct as below:-

'The Clothing Regulations of 1747 are the first standardisation of the principles behind the carrying of colours. For Infantry regiments, they are now limited to two. For 'marching Regiments of Foot' these were to be the 1st Colour (which became the Royal Colour) and the 2nd Colour (which became the Regimental). In marching order, the 1st Colour would obviously come first - suggesting it would be displayed on the right (from the perspective of the Army). The Regulations, however, do not specify and they were not rigorously enforced in the Eighteenth Century in any case'.

I would recommend the following works for information on the colours carried by the British Army:

Dino Lemonfides, 'British Infantry Colours'
Dino Lemonfides, ' British Cavalry Standards'

Might have to check those books out on Amazon now...

 

[OldDragon]

Cornwallis

Thank you for the reference .. I will be on the lookout for the recommended titles.

Bests
OD

 

[OldDragon]

... I don't think I can recall seeing anyone's collection of the Rhode Island regiment on TF, I had to pass up on them completely as I was desperately trying to purchase BR61 & BR40's before they retired :wink2:

Cornwallis

That's quite unfortunate that you missed the Rhode Islanders from K&C. Most of them were offered in "advancing" poses and a small number of multiples would have allowed one to create a mean looking advance. Somehow I missed their early retirement.

Bests
OD

 

[Larry Allen]

Larry

In answer to your question about the newer sculpts versus older ones .. I will have to choose those going back 5-6 years such as the Continental Marines and 1st NY. Whilst I really cannot comment on the very early figures as I have none, the latest Welsh Fusiliers are IMHO a bit on the "portly" side ...

Meanwhile, as promised, a view of the few on the other side of the fence ...

Bests
OD

Hey OD,
You have shown a splendid display of Colonial Firepower. Gotta’ love those first NY figures and the RI fit so great with the others. I also see the “RARE” (at least in these parts) the Woodsmen and Militia. They are protecting the flanks against any sneaky British end-around maneuver. Very nice!!!!

It still appears to me that the Colonial forces are in for a whooping if the Brits get off the first volley. {sm2} {sm2}

Starting this weekend you will start to see my armies appearing here. I only hope that I can do such a wonderful job as you guys have done here on this thread and in the past!

Larry

 

[Larry Allen]

Thats really cool OD, I don't think I can recall seeing anyone's collection of the Rhode Island regiment on TF, I had to pass up on them completely as I was desperately trying to purchase BR61 & BR40's before they retired, therefore I am really looking forward to what K&C are bringing out next on the American side.

I really hope it isn't a french regiment though as you are pretty restricted as to what battles you can use them in...

Also another vote for newer figures, I think the poses are more fluid now.... :wink2:

Hummmm ..... Looks like I am losing the vote on old vs. new :rolleyes2:

I was more aggressive collecting with the K&C Rhode Island AWI sets than I have with other sets in the past; mostly because I missed getting the required number of figures that I needed before they retired.

I have very mixed feeling about K&C retiring sets. On one hand, yes they make the ones you have (possibly) more valuable and more unique. And I understand K&C need to make space for new sets. However, when you need multiples for marching columns, firing lines, parades, troop reviews, advancing in rank and more ….. it makes it very difficult to get what you need so you have to move quickly and that is just not always possible.

That is why I decided to focus on just the AWI these days.

Anyway, I got quite a sizable RI Regiment to show you in a short time from now. I think it was third or fourth on my list to display.
Larry

 

[Cornwallis]

Hummmm ..... Looks like I am losing the vote on old vs. new :rolleyes2:

I was more aggressive collecting with the K&C Rhode Island AWI sets than I have with other sets in the past; mostly because I missed getting the required number of figures that I needed before they retired.

I have very mixed feeling about K&C retiring sets. On one hand, yes they make the ones you have (possibly) more valuable and more unique. And I understand K&C need to make space for new sets. However, when you need multiples for marching columns, firing lines, parades, troop reviews, advancing in rank and more ….. it makes it very difficult to get what you need so you have to move quickly and that is just not always possible.

That is why I decided to focus on just the AWI these days.

Anyway, I got quite a sizable RI Regiment to show you in a short time from now. I think it was third or fourth on my list to display.
Larry

That will be good to see your RI collection as well Larry. I can only second your comments with increasing figure costs and retirements taking place
around the 2 year mark, it is very hard to get the multiples required for where you want your diorama to be. I know what you mean about making space for new sets, but what I don't understand is the loss of revenue when there is still demand. I honestly would just keep purchasing BR040's as I had available funds but now its picking up the odd one off ebay for exorbatant prices (which I am not in the position to do)!

 

[REVWARBUFF]

I can't wait to see your RI regiment Larry!! Those massive formations always look impressive.

Mark