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Mitch

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Next to my HB Jagdpanthers this has to be the best released JP. I know the statement is my opinion but, this is just superb. I have just bought the winter version and I think for the money this really is a great AFV. The only thing is the decals are not dry rub but, waterslide so, you can see the backing but, its not a huge problem.

Track and wheel detail is excellent also and, with the recent discussions about detail from Figarti etc I think CS have done some of the better AFV's on the market

I nearly passed on these until I repainted a few and then had to buy some. Now I have four The detail is very good and I like the fact that you get a destroyed track and there is photo etch on the air vents.

You really can't get much better than these JP's
Mitch
 

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Agree that this is a great value for the money and a terrific model.
 

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Mitch i would go as far and say its better than the HB version (This one is IMO).................:salute::

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Wayne...

Nice JP!!! I will be doing a winter job on this one whenever I get time
 
Mitch said:
Wayne...

Nice JP!!! I will be doing a winter job on this one whenever I get time
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Mitch ,

It is ironic for me that you started this Winter Jagdpanther thread today...I just last night ordered my first Jagdpanther (Winter) , it is the K&C one though...I have not seen any of these in person...But the CS one looks great...I have as i have mentioned to you before stayed away from winter themed items...So as to concentrate on DAK , 8th Army, & early war period...That theory has gone by the wayside for me as of late...I believe after seeing your winter weathering technique & AFV's , i bought the TGM Hetzer last month & that sealed my fate !! I am really looking forward to seeing your winter job on the Jagdpanther ! I plan on posting some pic's of the Jagdpanther when i get it {sm4}...I am going to look into the CS one as well...

Thanks...

Joe
 
I love mine ...I have 4 of them ...... but I have not done the size test yet

Are they the big or the small ( in other words do they fit the FL scenario or the mainstream scenario )
 
Mitch said:
You really can't get much better than these JP's
Mitch
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I really like CS vehicles. Unfortunately they made some critical mistakes on some favorites of mine, the cupola of the IVG, wheels of the early Tiger, and the slope of the new Panther bothers me, but the Pershing, PzIII, 88 & 232 are REALLY sweet. If they could just stop these annoying errors

or at least make the errors on late run Tigers, PZ IV's & JP's :)
 
Mitch said:
Next to my HB Jagdpanthers this has to be the best released JP. I know the statement is my opinion but, this is just superb. I have just bought the winter version and I think for the money this really is a great AFV. The only thing is the decals are not dry rub but, waterslide so, you can see the backing but, its not a huge problem.

Track and wheel detail is excellent also and, with the recent discussions about detail from Figarti etc I think CS have done some of the better AFV's on the market

I nearly passed on these until I repainted a few and then had to buy some. Now I have four The detail is very good and I like the fact that you get a destroyed track and there is photo etch on the air vents.

You really can't get much better than these JP's
Mitch
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I think the CS is the best Jagdpanther to date. Unfortunatly the HB Jagdpanther has a major error. The roof is flat not angled as it should be. The CS has a minor problem as the Muzzle Brake is too large. I use the reloader set with mine in a diorama on my desk.
 
Firebat said:
I love mine ...I have 4 of them ...... but I have not done the size test yet

Are they the big or the small ( in other words do they fit the FL scenario or the mainstream scenario )
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The scale of the CS Jagdpanther is 1/27. Works well with CS, K&C and Thomas Gunn. Oversize for First Legion. The Figarti and Honor Bound Panthers are 4.375 "wide The CS Panther/Jagdpanther is 4.750". A Panther tank is 129" wide sans schurtzen. The Figarti and HB Panthers measure at 1/29.48 scale; about as close as you will get to 1/30 scale with Polyresin.
 
katana said:
The scale of the CS Jagdpanther is 1/27. Works well with CS, K&C and Thomas Gunn. Oversize for First Legion. The Figarti and Honor Bound Panthers are 4.375 "wide The CS Panther/Jagdpanther is 4.750". A Panther tank is 129" wide sans schurtzen. The Figarti and HB Panthers measure at 1/29.48 scale; about as close as you will get to 1/30 scale with Polyresin.
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Thanks for the heads up.
 
I believe a dicotomy has arisen with toy soldier collectors. Collectors that build models are more demanding of accuracy than traditional toy soldier collectors who seem to value style over accuracy to a prototype. Firebat and Mitch exemplifie the model building collector mindset; as do I. Figarti and First Legion are the most accurate in both scale and prototype details. Both companies continue to improve their products and experiment with new material and manufacturing techniques. K&C and Thomas Gunn are Traditional Toy Soldier manufacturers who stick with tried and tested techniques and materials. Style is a major factor for product identity with these manufacturers i.e. the over scale weapons of K&C figures which are a problem for collectors seeking accurate figures and details. Collectors Showcase seems to fall into the middle ground between the two approaches; being both innovative and toy like stylistically. Given the considerable price increases in Toy Soldier products over the last few years I think in future accuracy will prevail over style in the marketplace; as evidenced by the success of First Legion and Figarti products.
 
Joe...

As I said to you winter is best!! I look forward to the pics of your repaints of the winter and the new sets your buying.

Katana..

I think you are right about scale and, I was also very surprised at the errors on the HB JP not something I associated with their releases but, it still is stylistically my favourite manufacturer.

With the movement in scale with CS's AFV's I nearly passed on the JP as I mentioned but, this for me is everything good about what CS do.

I nearly posted some pics of the other manufacturers JP's that I have but, did not get around to it
Mitch
 
Mitch said:
Joe...

As I said to you winter is best!! I look forward to the pics of your repaints of the winter and the new sets your buying.

Katana..

I think you are right about scale and, I was also very surprised at the errors on the HB JP not something I associated with their releases but, it still is stylistically my favourite manufacturer.

With the movement in scale with CS's AFV's I nearly passed on the JP as I mentioned but, this for me is everything good about what CS do.

I nearly posted some pics of the other manufacturers JP's that I have but, did not get around to it
Mitch
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I would like to see the photos as it would be a valuable comparison. A tricolor ambush pattern HB Jagdpanther has been on Ebay for some time. No box, slight repaired damage to a fender; otherwise in good condition. I would make the poster an offer as the BIN is somewhat high at $325 as is the starting bid at $249.00 given the condition.
The CS Jagdpanther is the only one with the rear hatch that opens allowing for use of the superb CS reloader set in a diorama. I am pleased the CS Jagdpanther is the larger scale as it looks really nice with the 68MM figures being produced today. I love the Jagdpanther, a superb design very efficient and capable of knocking out anything on a WWII battlefield. A classic shoot and scoot vehicle for long range ambush tactics against a numerically superior foe. I have the Minichamps model which is excellent and over the years I have built many 1/35 and 1/25 scale models. Regards
 
katana said:
I would like to see the photos as it would be a valuable comparison. A tricolor ambush pattern HB Jagdpanther has been on Ebay for some time. No box, slight repaired damage to a fender; otherwise in good condition. I would make the poster an offer as the BIN is somewhat high at $325 as is the starting bid at $249.00 given the condition.
The CS Jagdpanther is the only one with the rear hatch that opens allowing for use of the superb CS reloader set in a diorama. I am pleased the CS Jagdpanther is the larger scale as it looks really nice with the 68MM figures being produced today. I love the Jagdpanther, a superb design very efficient and capable of knocking out anything on a WWII battlefield. A classic shoot and scoot vehicle for long range ambush tactics against a numerically superior foe. I have the Minichamps model which is excellent and over the years I have built many 1/35 and 1/25 scale models. Regards
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I just got my K&C Jagdpanther yesterday...Took a couple of pic's of it before leaving for work...So as to have a comparision to the other maker's...My impression is it is well done , the zimmerit looks good & works well with the winter wash...Come's with two crew members...
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Thanks,

Joe

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jager7080 said:
I just got my K&C Jagdpanther yesterday...Took a couple of pic's of it before leaving for work...So as to have a comparision to the other maker's...My impression is it is well done , the zimmerit looks good & works well with the winter wash...Come's with two crew members...
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Thanks,

Joe

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Thanks for the nice photos. The scale looks correct compared to the figures. The Zimmerit looks good and consistant with the early version mantlet. The sprockets look better blacked. Does the rear hatch open?
 
katana said:
Thanks for the nice photos. The scale looks correct compared to the figures. The Zimmerit looks good and consistant with the early version mantlet. The sprockets look better blacked. Does the rear hatch open?
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Katana ,

No , the rear hatch is sealed...i got one more pic...an aerial view !

Joe

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Does anyone have a size comparison between the K&C and TCS
 
Firebat said:
Does anyone have a size comparison between the K&C and TCS
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A Jagdpanther is 129 inches wide less Schurtzen. The CS is 4.750 inches wide measured at the front. 4.75 into 129=27.15 or 1/27 scale. Measure the width of the K&C and divide into 129 for the scale. The Figarti Panther is 1/29.48 scale as is the Honor Bound.
 
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