WSS104SL Assassination of Heydrich (1 Viewer)

[jrsteel]

I try to stay out of these things, but I too would like to know how Andy has changed this hobby "not for the better". Please enlighten me, with the money I have invested in K&C maybe I can still get out while there is time!
Gary

I said he's changed it "not for the better" for me. I enjoyed the hobby better when it had a nostalgic antique feeling about it and was focused British Colonial armies,Napoleonics, Zulu War etc. I prefer the gloss figures.
K&C changed the focus to the Nazis and German Army of WW2. Isn't that where most of his profits come from? And all the other companies have followed along. I'm just not into the Nazis or all of their tanks and equipment and that seems to be the main focus of the hobby right now.
And I don't feel that the new matte style figures from K&C and everyone else are all that great. If I hold up a K&C figure or a matte Britains figure next to an Imperial, for me the Imperial is better. The only matte figures that are really impressive to me are St. Petersburg. That's just my opinion.

 

[Pierre]

Pierre

Rude? No I dont take your editing my earlier postings beyond their orginial meaning rude - deceptive or wrong - perhaps.

I went ahead and printed the entire train of thought for those who might not have read my posting that you so skillfully edited. Your version is what you have implied - and in turn made a misinterpretation of my expressed opinion.

I am not angry over your postings or your opinions which you are free to speak at anytime you wish - your argument is what we call in Washington "Rights Grandstanding" - this where if your argument is on a faulty premise you immediately denounce your opponent of hold your "Right of Free Speech" down or back. We are having a open conversation here - you might not like what is being said - but, no one has denounced anyone from their freedom of speech. I think you know that.

My simple point is there are no 100% right answers and we are all only the experts of our own opinion.

That should be clear and simple enough in any language.

Sincerely, Ron

Ron-

Michael expressed my views better than I can do in thousand years.

It has nothing to do with K&C products or the way it is managed but there is certainly room for amelioration in respect of their public relations department (and I am not referring to Tammi or Fanny).

Andy C. Neilson (and K&C) is on the top of the mountain, I agree with that and that's why I do not understand why he tries to kill a fly with a cannon every time he thinks that there may be a fly around.

As you know, I am for the freedom of speech but that certainly not includes the right of insulting.

Pierre.

 

[Rob]

I for one would love to see some of the Colonial Wars represented in miniature,wasn't there talk of this for K&C Anniversary next year?.

Rob

 

[Pierre]

I for one would love to see some of the Colonial Wars represented in miniature,wasn't there talk of this for K&C Anniversary next year?.

Rob

Hi Rob-

Are you sure that you are in the good thread?

Seriously, I agree with you and Zulu War would be a good choice.

Pierre.

 

[Rob]

Yes, Zulu War,Boer War,Sudan campaign would all be cool.

Rob

 

[OldCelt]

Ron-

Michael expressed my views better than I can do in thousand years.

It has nothing to do with K&C products or the way it is managed but there is certainly room for amelioration in respect of their public relations department (and I am not referring to Tammi or Fanny).

Andy C. Neilson (and K&C) is on the top of the mountain, I agree with that and that's why I do not understand why he tries to kill a fly with a cannon every time he thinks that there may be a fly around.

As you know, I am for the freedom of speech but that certainly not includes the right of insulting.

Pierre.

Pierre. O.C. here!
Andy is a character as most of we Celts are. I do not offer apolgies for him.
I now he can do it for himself! We Celts do like to kid around and are quick to laugh at others and equally quick to laugh at ourselves.
There is a thin line between friendly kidding and insult, and it becomes very blurred depending on the angle it is viewed.
Wit is a fine art and can be both a comfort and cudgle.A good wit is eqully a good diplomat. And as any Frenchman will inform you. A good diplomat is one who can .."tell you to go to Hades in a way that makes you look forward to the trip.
I for one (being the eternal optomist.) feel that the afore mentioned individuals wit will improve with the quality of his product.
Cheerio O. C.

 

[Capitolron]

Ron-

As you know, I am for the freedom of speech but that certainly not includes the right of insulting.

Pierre.

Pierre

I think you had good points when you questioned the actual existance of the WS100 in the German Army. And I am very sorry that you were insulted by the tonuge and cheek remarks Andy made back to you in French. It was an attempt at humor that went wrong. Knowing Andy, I dont think insulting you was what he had in mind when he made the joke.

Having made several jokes on this forum myself and having them blown back in my face - I can easily understand how this happens. Comments of humor are usually innocent in nature.

But, this has caused a rift - an attitude if you will - towards Andy and that is a shame.

You seem like a very fine gentleman - well, when you are not jabbing me on other forums. I do have respect for you and your legal background. I do not hold any grudges toward you.

At some point we must stop this baiting Andy game that a few of your friends play. First, There is the flaming post to taunt Andy for a reaction - then when you get it - all the friends rush out to jump him for his statements (many which are not said in a rude tone - although you disagree). Yes, I agree with Michael as well .... this tit - for - tat or the taunt and attack tactics are becomming tiring for us all.

The King and Country Thread will have people like me and many others - quick to defend, promote and praise King and Country and Andy Nielson. This is a well known fact and yet we still have this bait and switch stuff all the time - I just dont understand? Everyone has their own opinions and speak them freely - and we all can learn from other observations that are not our own. But, this throw the handgernades and laugh about somewhere else is counterproductive in my opinion.

Treefrog has many folks who have very different views - we all participate because we can learn from each other. We are not bound together in a club that hates one Toy Soldier Maker - but, embraces all - yet we promote our favorites too - K&C, NMA, JJD, Britians, Conte and HB to name a few. Thats the joy of a free forum with free expression and even free speech.

We will never reach a point where we will all get along and agree with what each other says all the time - but, we can respect the fact that everyone can post their mind and not be affraid of saying what they believe - even defend their points of view.

This has turned into a long post - but, you like those, right - and probally could been done with a PM - but, there are other parties who need to read this too. Therefore, we have a public posting.

I have restrained myself from the silly postings of my past out of respect of the forum as a whole. I would hope you and others could do the same when it comes to critizing Andy and his fine company.

Very Sincerely,

Ron

 

[Harrytheheid]

Woosh....just got home from a night in my local, logged in to check my company emails, then decided to have a quick look at the forum.
Can't believe it...!!! Calm down everyone please
This is a Toy Soldier hobby. It's not the REAL WORLD.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion - agreed, but when those opinions cause such such an amount of high blood pressure, I begin to wonder.
K&C are my favourite figurine manufacturers, no doubt about it and I shall continue to purchase their wonderful product. That doesn't mean to say that other manufacturer's product don't have value - cos I have other people's stuff in my collection - especially AFV's that IMO are superior to certain of those on offer from K&C. Its just that I like K&C overall.
Sure, it's a business that K&C are running, but at least the Head Honcho makes time to communicate with his customers. This is outwith my experience in the industry I work in. I would please ask that the more heated members count to ten and remember that we are all collectors according to our own individual tastes.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Pierre]

...I would please ask that the more heated members count to ten...

Hi Harry-

I had count to ten and will reply to Ron.

Pierre.

 

[Pierre]

Pierre

I think you had good points when you questioned the actual existance of the WS100 in the German Army. And I am very sorry that you were insulted by the tonuge and cheek remarks Andy made back to you in French. It was an attempt at humor that went wrong. Knowing Andy, I dont think insulting you was what he had in mind when he made the joke.

Having made several jokes on this forum myself and having them blown back in my face - I can easily understand how this happens. Comments of humor are usually innocent in nature.

But, this has caused a rift - an attitude if you will - towards Andy and that is a shame.

You seem like a very fine gentleman - well, when you are not jabbing me on other forums. I do have respect for you and your legal background. I do not hold any grudges toward you.

At some point we must stop this baiting Andy game that a few of your friends play. First, There is the flaming post to taunt Andy for a reaction - then when you get it - all the friends rush out to jump him for his statements (many which are not said in a rude tone - although you disagree). Yes, I agree with Michael as well .... this tit - for - tat or the taunt and attack tactics are becomming tiring for us all.

The King and Country Thread will have people like me and many others - quick to defend, promote and praise King and Country and Andy Nielson. This is a well known fact and yet we still have this bait and switch stuff all the time - I just dont understand? Everyone has their own opinions and speak them freely - and we all can learn from other observations that are not our own. But, this throw the handgernades and laugh about somewhere else is counterproductive in my opinion.

Treefrog has many folks who have very different views - we all participate because we can learn from each other. We are not bound together in a club that hates one Toy Soldier Maker - but, embraces all - yet we promote our favorites too - K&C, NMA, JJD, Britians, Conte and HB to name a few. Thats the joy of a free forum with free expression and even free speech.

We will never reach a point where we will all get along and agree with what each other says all the time - but, we can respect the fact that everyone can post their mind and not be affraid of saying what they believe - even defend their points of view.

This has turned into a long post - but, you like those, right - and probally could been done with a PM - but, there are other parties who need to read this too. Therefore, we have a public posting.

I have restrained myself from the silly postings of my past out of respect of the forum as a whole. I would hope you and others could do the same when it comes to critizing Andy and his fine company.

Very Sincerely,

Ron

Ron-

Just to tell you that there is no plot against Andy or K&C in the other forum in which I am a member and I am also well aware that what I post there can be read by anyone who becomes a member (using his right identity, a false one or by a third person).

If you want to PM me throught TF about anything I wrote on the other forum, feel free. Despite the fact that we publicly had some arguments, I am the kind of person that a good argumentation galvanized and I show great respect (even if I may not agree) both for the discourse and the speaker when it is done rigorously.

I am a person of conviction as you are. PM me and tell me everything you would like to me. I will answer you, maybe not right away as it can take me a lot of time to translate from french to english my ideas (when I have one ).

Pierre.

 

[Pierre]

To return to the subject of the thread, I will purchase the WS104SL set even if the colour of the car is not the good one (and I will not buy the Rammjäger. For me, there is no difference between that and a flying saucer )

Pierre.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Hi back Pierre,
Nice to hear from you again.
Not very often that I take on the role of peacemaker - usually I'm the one who's stirring the pot with delighted glee. And I do enjoy lively debates, but in this case, I saw some of the posts on this thread and thought - Woa Betsy, take a step back.
Don't mean to interfere if some want to take up the hatchet with each other. Just thought I'd contribute my tuppence-worth.
PS. I might take a different view in the morning when I look through the posts again. Might be some vastly entertaining posts appear, and if so, then maybe it'll seem to me like I actually do "get out of the house enough".

 

[Pierre]

...Woa Betsy, take a step back...

Hi Harry-

I am also happy to hear from you but... who is Betsy?

Pierre.

 

[nmrocks]

To return to the subject of the thread, I will purchase the WS104SL set even if the colour of the car is not the good one (and I will not buy the Rammjäger. For me, there is no difference between that and a flying saucer )

Pierre.

Just last night I found a picture I had purchased on ebay a year or so ago and forgot. I got it from a woman who lived in Antwerp, Belgium through the war. In 1945 this along with a V-1 and a V-2 were displayed in the town. I have all three pics.
Ray

 

[Louis Badolato]

Wow! Work late one night and all heck breaks loose. I am not touching this one with a ten foot pole (I think Harrytheheid handled the peacemaker role quite well in my absence) except to say that Andy Neilson is my friend, and while he can certainly have strong opinions which rub other people the wrong way on occasion (just like the rest of us) he is a really good guy. I wish more folks can come to the Chicago Show, Westcoaster and NY Symposium and meet Andy in person. Like Old Celt put it, the point of view of a person can often change a comment from a joke to a personal attack. Its easier to get a good read on a person's intentions when you can hear his voice and look him in the eye. That being said, let's get back on topic: That is one really interesting photo, NMROCKS. If it isn't the Rammjager, its pretty darn close. I would love to see the other photos you bought.

 

[Pierre]

Just last night I found a picture I had purchased on ebay a year or so ago and forgot. I got it from a woman who lived in Antwerp, Belgium through the war. In 1945 this along with a V-1 and a V-2 were displayed in the town. I have all three pics.
Ray

Hi Ray-

That's a pic of a Fieseler Fi 103 Re Reichenberg.

Just type the name in Google and then seach for images, you will have a lot of pics. Try the same with Focke-Wulf Rammjäger and find one (apart the WS100 from K&C)... I wish you good luck.

I repeat it, Focke-Wulf never produced a jet. That is as simple as that.

Pierre.

 

[Steven Chong]

... If it isn't the Rammjager, its pretty darn close ...

WS100 does not have the engine mounted above the cockpit. I believe the picture is of the Fieseler Fi 103R or the manned version of the V-1, which has the pulse jet mounted above the main body of the missile.

 

[Pierre]

...If it isn't the Rammjager, its pretty darn close.

Hi Louis-

You are right, it is pretty darn close but... it's not.

Focke-Wulf never produced a jet.

Here is the list of the planes produced by Focke-Wulf during WWII:

Fw 44 Stieglitz
Fw 56 Stösser
Fw 189 Uhu
FW 190 Würger
Fw 200 Kondor
Fw Ta 152

Sorry but no Rammjäger.

BTW, the Uhu is a great model for the warbirds.

Pierre.

 

[Pierre]

WS100 does not have the engine mounted above the cockpit. I believe the picture is of the Fieseler Fi 103R or the manned version of the V-1, which has the pulse jet mounted above the main body of the missile.

Hi Steven-

Didn't have the time to read your post before posting mine.

Pierre.

 

[nmrocks]

WS100 does not have the engine mounted above the cockpit. I believe the picture is of the Fieseler Fi 103R or the manned version of the V-1, which has the pulse jet mounted above the main body of the missile.

HMMM.... do I smell conversion material here?
might make a nice project!
Ray