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Love this one Randy. One of my favourites. Top job!!!
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Love this one Randy. One of my favourites. Top job!!!
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Randy,
It always eluded me as to where/what the weapon systems were on the San Pueblo besides the firehose. Do you know?
Mike
It always eluded me as to where/what the weapon systems were on the San Pueblo besides the firehose. Do you know?
Mike
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Here are stills showing the weapons on the San Pablo-besides the fire hose are basically machine guns. I have not seen the film for a while but think this was about it. In photo 2 the future captain of The Love Boat is doing the firing
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Sand Pebbles & Lewis Gun
Lewis Gun
Updated - Saturday, 3 May, 2003
Designed in the United States in 1911 by U.S. Army Colonel Isaac Newton Lewis (and based upon an earlier overly-complex design by Samuel McLean), the Lewis gun comprised an early light machine gun widely adopted by British and Empire forces from 1915 onwards.
Frustrated in his aim of persuading the U.S. Army to adopt his new design Colonel Lewis retired from the army and set sail for Belgium, arriving in January 1913. The Belgian Army was quick to see the merits of the gun and ordered that it be manufactured at Liege using common British 0.303 inch calibre ammunition. Shortly afterwards the Birmingham Small Arms Company also bought a license to manufacture Lewis' weapon.
Weighing 12kg the air-cooled 1914 model Lewis Gun featured a 47 (later 97 for aircraft) cartridge circular magazine. By means of an adjustable clock-type recoil spring the gun's firing rate could be regulated, ranging from 500-600 rounds per minute, although shorter bursts were more usual. With its adjustable sights and bipod support the Lewis Gun proved effective to some 600 metres.
Nicknamed 'the Belgian rattlesnake' by German forces who came up against the weapon in 1914, the Lewis was formally adopted as the standard issue British Army machine gun from the close of 1915. By 1916 approximately 50,000 had been produced. Although in 1915 each British battalion on the Western Front had just four Lewis Guns, by 1917 each infantry section boasted its own Lewis gunner and backup, with battalions by now deploying 46 Lewis Guns.
As a light automatic machine gun it was considered the best and most reliable available at the time and was soon adapted for use both at sea by the Royal Navy, and for use in the air by aircraft observers (with the Vickers Gun used for forward firing through the aircraft's propeller blades). When used in the air the Lewis' air cooling jacket and fins could be dispensed with: it then weighed just 9kg.
With the advent of armoured cars the Lewis found a ready place, and was similarly used both on tanks and - at the other end of the spectrum - on motorcycles.
The Lewis Gun was belatedly adopted by the U.S. Army in 1917, manufactured in New York using 0.30 inch calibre ammunition. Although a popular choice the gun was nonetheless expensive to manufacture, for all that six could be produced in the time it took to manufacture a single Vickers Gun.
In time the Lewis was replaced in the U.S. Army by John Browning's automatic rifle (BAR). However the Lewis Gun remained in use long after the end of the war given the vast numbers that had already been manufactured.
For some films with the Lewis gun:
The Professionals
Poncho Villa's Gold - Gilbert Roland and Rory Calhoun
The Sand Pebbles - McQueen
ANZAC's - the War Down Under - plenty of scenes with the Lewis chattering away.
Lewis Gun
Updated - Saturday, 3 May, 2003
Designed in the United States in 1911 by U.S. Army Colonel Isaac Newton Lewis (and based upon an earlier overly-complex design by Samuel McLean), the Lewis gun comprised an early light machine gun widely adopted by British and Empire forces from 1915 onwards.
Frustrated in his aim of persuading the U.S. Army to adopt his new design Colonel Lewis retired from the army and set sail for Belgium, arriving in January 1913. The Belgian Army was quick to see the merits of the gun and ordered that it be manufactured at Liege using common British 0.303 inch calibre ammunition. Shortly afterwards the Birmingham Small Arms Company also bought a license to manufacture Lewis' weapon.
Weighing 12kg the air-cooled 1914 model Lewis Gun featured a 47 (later 97 for aircraft) cartridge circular magazine. By means of an adjustable clock-type recoil spring the gun's firing rate could be regulated, ranging from 500-600 rounds per minute, although shorter bursts were more usual. With its adjustable sights and bipod support the Lewis Gun proved effective to some 600 metres.
Nicknamed 'the Belgian rattlesnake' by German forces who came up against the weapon in 1914, the Lewis was formally adopted as the standard issue British Army machine gun from the close of 1915. By 1916 approximately 50,000 had been produced. Although in 1915 each British battalion on the Western Front had just four Lewis Guns, by 1917 each infantry section boasted its own Lewis gunner and backup, with battalions by now deploying 46 Lewis Guns.
As a light automatic machine gun it was considered the best and most reliable available at the time and was soon adapted for use both at sea by the Royal Navy, and for use in the air by aircraft observers (with the Vickers Gun used for forward firing through the aircraft's propeller blades). When used in the air the Lewis' air cooling jacket and fins could be dispensed with: it then weighed just 9kg.
With the advent of armoured cars the Lewis found a ready place, and was similarly used both on tanks and - at the other end of the spectrum - on motorcycles.
The Lewis Gun was belatedly adopted by the U.S. Army in 1917, manufactured in New York using 0.30 inch calibre ammunition. Although a popular choice the gun was nonetheless expensive to manufacture, for all that six could be produced in the time it took to manufacture a single Vickers Gun.
In time the Lewis was replaced in the U.S. Army by John Browning's automatic rifle (BAR). However the Lewis Gun remained in use long after the end of the war given the vast numbers that had already been manufactured.
For some films with the Lewis gun:
The Professionals
Poncho Villa's Gold - Gilbert Roland and Rory Calhoun
The Sand Pebbles - McQueen
ANZAC's - the War Down Under - plenty of scenes with the Lewis chattering away.
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Historical Accuracy and Sand Pebble Weapons (from a review of the film)
Historical accuracy
Although Westerners and Chinese fought at the Taku Forts in 1858–1860, the only large battles between Westerners and Asians on the Yangtze River were the 1937 Panay incident, between the Americans and the Japanese, not the Chinese, and the 1949 Yangtze Incident, between several small Royal Navy ships and Chinese artillery batteries of the People's Liberation Army. The attack on the gunboat USS Panay is often cited as the inspiration for some elements in McKenna's plot. McKenna served in the China River Patrol in 1936.
Although its naval designation was as a "gunboat", the San Pablo's only artillery was a 3-inch/23-caliber deck gun and 1-pounder rapid fire gun astern; its only machine guns were two Lewis Guns and a BAR. The sailors' small arms were M1903 Springfield rifles, bayonets, and .45 caliber M1911 pistols carried by the officers and Chief Petty Officers. Pistols were also worn by the Petty Officer of the Watch (POOW) and mail guards. Frenchy was POOW when Holman first comes aboard San Pablo. Holman and Farren were mail guards when Holman goes ashore with the intention of deserting.
Historical accuracy
Although Westerners and Chinese fought at the Taku Forts in 1858–1860, the only large battles between Westerners and Asians on the Yangtze River were the 1937 Panay incident, between the Americans and the Japanese, not the Chinese, and the 1949 Yangtze Incident, between several small Royal Navy ships and Chinese artillery batteries of the People's Liberation Army. The attack on the gunboat USS Panay is often cited as the inspiration for some elements in McKenna's plot. McKenna served in the China River Patrol in 1936.
Although its naval designation was as a "gunboat", the San Pablo's only artillery was a 3-inch/23-caliber deck gun and 1-pounder rapid fire gun astern; its only machine guns were two Lewis Guns and a BAR. The sailors' small arms were M1903 Springfield rifles, bayonets, and .45 caliber M1911 pistols carried by the officers and Chief Petty Officers. Pistols were also worn by the Petty Officer of the Watch (POOW) and mail guards. Frenchy was POOW when Holman first comes aboard San Pablo. Holman and Farren were mail guards when Holman goes ashore with the intention of deserting.
San Pablo also had a deck gun of unknown type and caliber to me. I do not believe it had a hydraulic recoil system but I am not sure. It was used in the attack on the chinese river junk barricade at a long range, so it must have been of a decently large caliber. -- lancer
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This would seem to be it according to the article about the film
San Pablo's only artillery was a 3-inch/23-caliber deck gun and 1-pounder rapid fire gun astern;
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Randy once again you've provided us with great photos along with documentation in the telling of it. Thought I'd add a little touch to it.......The Lt.
The Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GUDYM_EKdQ&feature=related
The Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GUDYM_EKdQ&feature=related
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Thanks Joe
The trailer shows both the Lewis Gun and artillery piece on the San Pablo in action.
Randy
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"Follow Up"
Since the search of the temple was unsuccessful in locating the insurgents who attacked the American compound, Capt. Harbison is following up a new lead that the men may be hiding in a cave near the entrance to the harbor where they have disguised themselves as Chinese fisherman. To check this out he has dispatched a truck load of Shore Patrolmen to search the area.
Since the search of the temple was unsuccessful in locating the insurgents who attacked the American compound, Capt. Harbison is following up a new lead that the men may be hiding in a cave near the entrance to the harbor where they have disguised themselves as Chinese fisherman. To check this out he has dispatched a truck load of Shore Patrolmen to search the area.
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Great new addition to the story Randy!
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Randy,
I have the movie on DVD and sat down with my father-in-law to watch it. He was a jarhead in Korea and is currently trying to get rid of pancreatic canc#@. He was telling me that he saw this in the theatre, but that it was much more enjoyable this time around 'cause he could just relax and take in a great story with beautiful scenery.
PS-The writing on the boxes says "Made by Panasonic"- really!
Mike
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Thanks Raymond. It is on hiatus for a while as I explore India and the NWF but I will return to it. Those new K&C sampans look perfect for my story.
Randy
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Its been a while since I looked in here Randy but I've caught up with the story again.
Looking forward to developments.
Cheers
H
Looking forward to developments.
Cheers
H
