Where do collectors hail from? (2 Viewers)

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I think over here cities are set by size. The city I live has a population of about 250,000 but we don't have a cathedral. I don't believe we have any Boroughs either or Hamlets or Villages for that matter. I think everything is either a town or a city.
 
Cardigan600 said:
A statement like that used to get peoples heads on Traitors gate, and the thing I always thought about US guys was that they like us Brits because we had so much history to write about. Put the 300 years of US history against the 2000 years of history the Brits have need I say more Trooper.
Bernard.:mad:
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Well not to put to fine a point on it but we are part you so your history is our history before the sea cruise.;):D Of course in that case we will disavow the losses to Rome.:D:D
 
panda1gen said:
Guys, many thanks, great answers - OK now - what is the difference then between a town, borough, village etc. Anglo-Saxon and Roman derivatives again I think, is that right?

Is there a clear definition? :confused: Does anyone care?;)

In the UK a city is a city because it has a cathedral - relates to status greater than town and episcopal seats/Royal Burghs

After pondering I looked others up:

Village - English - late middle English and old French - collection of buildings larger than a hamlet and smaller than a town - US - minor municipality with limited corporate powers 1888.

Borough - UK - old English - from burgh -

1. castle, fortress or citadel, from 'to protect'.

2. fortified town

3. town possessing municipal corporation and special privileges conferred by Royal Charter, also town that sends representative to parliament.

4. property held by Burgage and formerly qualifying for parliamentary vote

5. part of city outside the wall

the US version????
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Well, though they're all more or less the same as applied to municipalities, etymologically, you're correct.

Burg/burgh, borough/boro all go back via Anglo-Saxon to the old Germanic root *bhurg, (cognate with German Burg, meaning a castle or other fortified place. I think that borough was more common among the Scots, based on the way they heard and repeated the old English word, but I may be wrong about that.

Right, village comes to us from Latin via Old French, from villa, an estate in the countryside, often close to being self-sufficient, and usually the seat of the local landlord.

Town goes back to an old Anglo-Saxon word, cognate with the German Zaun (sounds almost the same, except that it's "ts" at the beginning), which originally meant an enclosure surrounded by a palisade. In modern German, that's why a picket fence is the Gartenzaun.

They all stood for a dwelling or collection of dwellings and other buildings, surrounded by some kind of enclosure, usually for defence.

Putting my language degree to good use...
 
Cardigan600 said:
A statement like that used to get peoples heads on Traitors gate, and the thing I always thought about US guys was that they like us Brits because we had so much history to write about. Put the 300 years of US history against the 2000 years of history the Brits have need I say more Trooper.
Bernard.:mad:
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Bernard,
What are them English!?:confused::eek:
 
Cardigan600 said:
A statement like that used to get peoples heads on Traitors gate, and the thing I always thought about US guys was that they like us Brits because we had so much history to write about. Put the 300 years of US history against the 2000 years of history the Brits have need I say more Trooper.
Bernard.:mad:
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Bernard do you actually believe that the US likes us Brits-history or not????:eek:Oh! dear oh! dear!

Don't get confused with all the good US guys here on the forum!

After all they did kick our butts out of their homeland and they definitely didn't like Monty:D:D

Reb
 
Well, those of us who have a deeper knowledge and understanding of history than the average high schooler does today like the British. We understand that we're cousins, and that our political system is rooted in the English Enlightenment. In fact, the English Enlightenment, and the ideals expressed in our political philosophical heritage, represent the peak of political development, in my opinion.

So here's to all my cousins in the British family, all Amercians, Brits, Canadians and Australians, and Kiwis! For whatever faults it has, our system is still better than any other!

Prost!
Brad
 
UKReb said:
Bernard do you actually believe that the US likes us Brits-history or not????:eek:Oh! dear oh! dear!

Don't get confused with all the good US guys here on the forum!

After all they did kick our butts out of their homeland and they definitely didn't like Monty:D:D

Reb
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As a Brit here in Canada and a stones throw from the US border, Americans and Canadians alike are always intrigued about my homeland and always love to hear my British accent. Unfortunately I have lost it but it does come straight back when I start talking to a Brit. Most want me to say something with an Enlgish accent LOL kinda hard when you are put on the spot :)
 
UKReb said:
Bernard do you actually believe that the US likes us Brits-history or not????:eek:Oh! dear oh! dear!

Don't get confused with all the good US guys here on the forum!

After all they did kick our butts out of their homeland and they definitely didn't like Monty:D:D

Reb
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Hate Monte, why on earth would we hate a ketchup (catsup, katsup?)company:confused: Afterall it is all natural and how else would you make Edna's Chip Butty? .;)
http://www.delmonte.com/products/VegetableItem.asp?id=136
 
theBaron said:
Well, though they're all more or less the same as applied to municipalities, etymologically, you're correct.

Burg/burgh, borough/boro all go back via Anglo-Saxon to the old Germanic root *bhurg, (cognate with German Burg, meaning a castle or other fortified place. I think that borough was more common among the Scots, based on the way they heard and repeated the old English word, but I may be wrong about that.

Right, village comes to us from Latin via Old French, from villa, an estate in the countryside, often close to being self-sufficient, and usually the seat of the local landlord.

Town goes back to an old Anglo-Saxon word, cognate with the German Zaun (sounds almost the same, except that it's "ts" at the beginning), which originally meant an enclosure surrounded by a palisade. In modern German, that's why a picket fence is the Gartenzaun.

They all stood for a dwelling or collection of dwellings and other buildings, surrounded by some kind of enclosure, usually for defence.

Putting my language degree to good use...
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Thanks I am learning - but - you didn't answer my question unless US boroughs are surrounded by fences - you started this with the only town in PA - why boroughs and not towns - or is it time to go to the pub now;)
 
panda1gen said:
Thanks I am learning - but - you didn't answer my question unless US boroughs are surrounded by fences - you started this with the only town in PA - why boroughs and not towns - or is it time to go to the pub now;)
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lol

Have a stout for me! Prosit!

Brad
 
thebritfarmer said:
As a Brit here in Canada and a stones throw from the US border, Americans and Canadians alike are always intrigued about my homeland and always love to hear my British accent. Unfortunately I have lost it but it does come straight back when I start talking to a Brit. Most want me to say something with an Enlgish accent LOL kinda hard when you are put on the spot :)
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Accents are interesting, but like most Aussies I have trouble picking a Canadian accent from an American one, but I guess they may have trouble picking an Australian accent from a New Zealand one.
 
OzDigger said:
Accents are interesting, but like most Aussies I have trouble picking a Canadian accent from an American one, but I guess they may have trouble picking an Australian accent from a New Zealand one.
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An American comes "out of his house and runs about", a Canadian comes "oht of his hohss and runs aboht, eh" (although there are some regions of the US, where you can hear the "ou" contorted into a longer, flatter "oh" sound, too)

And we wear hats, but a Canadian can put on his toque (pronounced, "took", long u sound).

Prost!
Brad
 
theBaron said:
An American comes "out of his house and runs about", a Canadian comes "oht of his hohss and runs aboht, eh" (although there are some regions of the US, where you can hear the "ou" contorted into a longer, flatter "oh" sound, too)

And we wear hats, but a Canadian can put on his toque (pronounced, "took", long u sound).

Prost!
Brad
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I knew about the "eh" extension from Southpark which is of course a very reliable source of information, but there was no mention of a took, so I've learned something there.
 
I first became aware of the Canadian accent, from watching "SCTV" and seeing Dave Thomas and Rick Moranis as Bob and Doug McKenzie and their talk show, "The Great White North". "Take off, eh"

Probably makes Canadians wince, nowadays.

Then there were The Kids in the Hall, another great sketch comedy group, utterly fantastic!
 
VIRIATO said:
I have already noticed collectors in this forum from other countries:
Slovenia, Belgium, France, Spain, they probably haven't yet bumped into this poll:D
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I thought I'd "bump" this thread to give them another chance. :)
 
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