70th anniversary of the Bangka massacre (1 Viewer)

[Mitch]

Now now leave Maggie alone!!!!
Mitch

Although I was once heard to observe in a very left leaning staffroom 'Wasn't Margaret Thatcher attractive when she was young'.

 

[Jack]

Now now leave Maggie alone!!!!
Mitch

Too my shame - I was serious - I do think she was very attractive! Something about that woman when she welcomed the fleet home in 1982 - very, very alluring! Now there's a toy soldier I'd collect!

If they make a set Mitch, I'll swap you three Julia Gillards for one Maggie Thatcher!

 

[uksubs]

If you read my post #14 in this thread, I explain what I feel about the use of the A-bomb. The A-bomb is a bad weapon, but so are all weapons. As bad as the A-bomb is, it's use drove the Japanese to surrender, something the bombing of Tokyo and other cities had NOT accomplished. I'm not getting into a discussion about the merits of the bombing campaigns of WW2, regardless of who was doing the bombing or getting bombed. It was all horrible. My point is that the A-bomb was neccesary to convince the Japanese that further fighting was pointless. They realized that it was a weapon for which they had no answer. The Japanese felt that they could resist and survive regular bombing and could continue the fight, not so with the A-bomb. -- Al

Fair point Al and agree with that , my point way that the fire bombing killed more than one of the A bomb did

 

[Rob]

I may be totally wrong here so please correct me if I am. But didn't the USAAF towards the end of the War have such air superiority that they would give notice to the Japenese of three or four cities they may bomb so as to give residents time to evacuate and then pick a target, sure I read this somewhere?.

Rob

 

[Mitch]

Jack...

Rob will be having nightmares at what you just said!!! Never thought of her in that way. We are not renowned for attractive female politicians in this country!!! She was a beast when it came to the Falklands and the security of the UK so, she gets my respect for what she did. When you had these thoughts had you been in the outback for a while??LOL
Mitch

Too my shame - I was serious - I do think she was very attractive! Something about that woman when she welcomed the fleet home in 1982 - very, very alluring! Now there's a toy soldier I'd collect!

If they make a set Mitch, I'll swap you three Julia Gillards for one Maggie Thatcher!

 

[Mitch]

Rob...

They did but they sent it by the bloody post service and, it never got there on time!!!!LOL
Mitch

I may be totally wrong here so please correct me if I am. But didn't the USAAF towards the end of the War have such air superiority that they would give notice to the Japenese of three or four cities they may bomb so as to give residents time to evacuate and then pick a target, sure I read this somewhere?.

Rob

 

[Rob]

Too my shame - I was serious - I do think she was very attractive! Something about that woman when she welcomed the fleet home in 1982 - very, very alluring! Now there's a toy soldier I'd collect!

If they make a set Mitch, I'll swap you three Julia Gillards for one Maggie Thatcher!

Whatever works for you my friend!^&grin She showed strong leadership in regard to the Falklands^&cool

Now speaking for myself I'd like the next Prime minister to be Faith from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, attractive and aggressive in her policies!:wink2:

Rob

 

[waynepoo]

I may be totally wrong here so please correct me if I am. But didn't the USAAF towards the end of the War have such air superiority that they would give notice to the Japenese of three or four cities they may bomb so as to give residents time to evacuate and then pick a target, sure I read this somewhere?.

Rob

Rob,
I have just yesterday finished reading ''TARGET TOKYO'' by Lawrence Cortesi, I quote the last few lines of the book.

''The Operation Meetinghouse raid of 10 March 1945 became the first of more than a
100 future devastating fire raids on Japanese cities. By August of 1945 the B-29s would
gut a total 178 square miles in 69 cities, affecting a population of more than 21 million.
In Tokyo alone, fire raids would burn up a astounding 57 square miles of the city by the
war's end. In fact, during the six months of fire bombings, Japan would suffer twice as
many civilian casualties as military casualties during 45 months of war.
In truth, by the time the atom bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese
populace had already witnessed similar or even more horrifying destruction on their
cities - such as the evening fire raid of 10 March 1945 over Tokyo. The atom bomb
attacks had simply given Emperor Hirohito the excuse he needed to override his
stubborn army generals and to seek surrender terms."
Wayne.

 

[uksubs]

Rob...

They did but they sent it by the bloody post service and, it never got there on time!!!!LOL
Mitch

Rofl . Wonder if they sent it by airmail

 

[Louis Badolato]

{sm4}

Morning Louis, how are you today mate?

Rob

I'm good Rob. My favorite American Football team, the New York Giants, (unexpectedly) plays in the Super Bowl this Sunday, so my mind is more on the game (which is in my humble opinion too close to call). This is only the 5th time in my life that my favorite football team (which has a storied history from primarily before I was born) has played in the Super Bowl, so I am praying they can find a way to win.

How are you?:smile2:

 

[uksubs]

Rob,
I have just yesterday finished reading ''TARGET TOKYO'' by Lawrence Cortesi, I quote the last few lines of the book.

''The Operation Meetinghouse raid of 10 March 1945 became the first of more than a
100 future devastating fire raids on Japanese cities. By August of 1945 the B-29s would
gut a total 178 square miles in 69 cities, affecting a population of more than 21 million.
In Tokyo alone, fire raids would burn up a astounding 57 square miles of the city by the
war's end. In fact, during the six months of fire bombings, Japan would suffer twice as
many civilian casualties as military casualties during 45 months of war.
In truth, by the time the atom bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese
populace had already witnessed similar or even more horrifying destruction on their
cities - such as the evening fire raid of 10 March 1945 over Tokyo. The atom bomb
attacks had simply given Emperor Hirohito the excuse he needed to override his
stubborn army generals and to seek surrender terms."
Wayne.

Very interesting read Wayne, would you recommend the book?

 

[Rob]

I'm good Rob. My favorite American Football team, the New York Giants, (unexpectedly) plays in the Super Bowl this Sunday, so my mind is more on the game (which is in my humble opinion too close to call). This is only the 5th time in my life that my favorite football team (which has a storied history from primarily before I was born) has played in the Super Bowl, so I am praying they can find a way to win.

How are you?:smile2:

All fine here Louis, well I hope the Giants do the business on Sunday for you, sometimes I stay up and watch Super Bowl so maybe I will this year too:salute::

Rob

 

[Rob]

Sounds a very good read Wayne, might have to pick that one up at some point.

Rob

Rob,
I have just yesterday finished reading ''TARGET TOKYO'' by Lawrence Cortesi, I quote the last few lines of the book.

''The Operation Meetinghouse raid of 10 March 1945 became the first of more than a
100 future devastating fire raids on Japanese cities. By August of 1945 the B-29s would
gut a total 178 square miles in 69 cities, affecting a population of more than 21 million.
In Tokyo alone, fire raids would burn up a astounding 57 square miles of the city by the
war's end. In fact, during the six months of fire bombings, Japan would suffer twice as
many civilian casualties as military casualties during 45 months of war.
In truth, by the time the atom bombs fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Japanese
populace had already witnessed similar or even more horrifying destruction on their
cities - such as the evening fire raid of 10 March 1945 over Tokyo. The atom bomb
attacks had simply given Emperor Hirohito the excuse he needed to override his
stubborn army generals and to seek surrender terms."
Wayne.

 

[waynepoo]

FYI gents, a interesting read
Wayne.

 

[Jack]

Jack...

Rob will be having nightmares at what you just said!!! Never thought of her in that way. We are not renowned for attractive female politicians in this country!!! She was a beast when it came to the Falklands and the security of the UK so, she gets my respect for what she did. When you had these thoughts had you been in the outback for a while??LOL
Mitch

Not in the Outback - I was at an all boys Catholic school being taught by monks. It was a barren landscape, but not in the way you think!l

 

[Terp152]

Another anniversary of another inhuman act against unarmed people.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/ex...-Indonesian-island-haunted-by-a-massacre.html

Rob

There was a similiar atrocity when the Japenese overran a military hospital in Singapore. Patients, orderlies and doctors were shot and bayoneted. Some in the operating rooms. The staff were rounded up and executed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Military_Hospital,_Singapore
Chris

 

[Currahee Chris]

Terribly ironic but I was up pretty early this morning and was channel surfing and came across a movie called Paradise Road. Made in 97 and stars Glen Close and follows a group of Women who were captured by the IJA- A little boring but still gave a good look at some of the nonsense they had to put up with. I only saw the last 30-40 minutes or so.

 

[Rob]

There was a similiar atrocity when the Japenese overran a military hospital in Singapore. Patients, orderlies and doctors were shot and bayoneted. Some in the operating rooms. The staff were rounded up and executed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Military_Hospital,_Singapore
Chris

Chris, yes I remember seeing this in a docu series a few years back, horrific event that there really can be no excuse for.

Terribly ironic but I was up pretty early this morning and was channel surfing and came across a movie called Paradise Road. Made in 97 and stars Glen Close and follows a group of Women who were captured by the IJA- A little boring but still gave a good look at some of the nonsense they had to put up with. I only saw the last 30-40 minutes or so.

Chris, over here in the 80's (I think it was) the BBC made 'Tenko' a superb series (three in all) that followed the lives of British ex pat women in prison camps from their capture in Singapore to the their release and reunion after the war. Well worth catching.

Rob

 

[lancer]

Hey guys, don't forget the classic film "Three Came Home". It is based on Agnes Keith's memoir about her and her family's internment in Borneo by the Japanese. It starred Claudette Colbert and it is a very good film. -- Al

 

[Terp152]

Chris, over here in the 80's (I think it was) the BBC made 'Tenko' a superb series (three in all) that followed the lives of British ex pat women in prison camps from their capture in Singapore to the their release and reunion after the war. Well worth catching.

I caught some of the series when it was on tv here many yrs ago. Bought the series on dvd last yr. Very good production. Chris