Anyone else like film Noir? (2 Viewers)

Rob said:
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So true, and also funy how perception of things change and how we are affected by them. I remember when the classic Horror film 'Halloween' was released (its on tv this weekend actually)it was very frightening and shocking with its killings. Brilliant music score, the guys mask and a good performance from Jamie Lee Curtis all helped make it a film you don't forget-but to todays Horror fans its probably akin to Blue Peter!!.

Ealing studios made some wonderful films, great fun.

Rob
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One seeming problem with films today is the need to do more of everything or make everything larger, longer, louder and more vivid. There is little patience shown and even less attention given to developing characters, building suspense or even realistically displaying action. For action films, it is all about how many automatic weapons can be fired, how many explosions can be ignited and how blurred and fast cut any personal combat can be. I really wonder about the film schools that are churning out today's writers and directors but then it could be the film studio executives that simply insist that the next film make the most noise and reveal the most graphic violence. There have been great films made in the last 20 years but sadly the list seems to get shorter each year. Even critically acclaimed films like Avatar and Inception are awash with such nonsense. The patience and craft to make films like Strangers on a Train or even Key Largo is now elusive at best. If some asked me now to name my top 20 films for 2009 and 2010, I am not sure I could get to 10 and even they would be compromises of some sort.
 
I am not old by any means but, I have to agree everything is OTT and the plot has taken a backseat. Just watched citizen kane and get carter today and they are great. Some films also should never be allowed by law to be remade.
Mitch
 
As seems to be the case with the you guys below, I too am a classic movie fan. I'm big on Noir, especially Bogart and Mitchum. Also agree that the best "new-noir" film is probably L.A Confidential, though Chinatown and The Two Jakes (sequel to C'Town) are also high on my list. A less artsy, but well-done, TV series is the Nightstalker Series with Darren McGavin.

I also got into silent classics in the last few years. Being a classic horror fan (1931 Dracula, etc.) I started studying the German Expressionist films of the 20's and 30's. There's some great films by Murnau and Lang that might interest some here.
 
PJDeluhery said:
As seems to be the case with the you guys below, I too am a classic movie fan. I'm big on Noir, especially Bogart and Mitchum. Also agree that the best "new-noir" film is probably L.A Confidential, though Chinatown and The Two Jakes (sequel to C'Town) are also high on my list. A less artsy, but well-done, TV series is the Nightstalker Series with Darren McGavin.

I also got into silent classics in the last few years. Being a classic horror fan (1931 Dracula, etc.) I started studying the German Expressionist films of the 20's and 30's. There's some great films by Murnau and Lang that might interest some here.
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I agree with all those new-noir choices; I think they are fine examples. The remake of Get Carter with Stallone was painful to watch. Even more sadly, when you google the title, that is the one that comes up first.:eek:
 
I like some of Sly's acting, but I'd never put him in the categoy of "Noir."

I think you have to presume that the average film-goer today has no idea of what "Noir" really is, and has not seen any of the classics. Too bad because these films are treasures.
 
PJDeluhery said:
I like some of Sly's acting, but I'd never put him in the categoy of "Noir."

I think you have to presume that the average film-goer today has no idea of what "Noir" really is, and has not seen any of the classics. Too bad because these films are treasures.
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No doubt you are correct. I liked Sly in somethings too but not so much that re-make.
 
Interestingly, I watched Deadman (1995) last night that I think qualifies as neo-noire. It is a more rare western version but it had the "oneiric, strange, erotic, ambivalent, moral ambiguity and cruel qualities that are at the heart of the genre." While made in 1995, it was shot in B&W and features a common classic noire style of saying much with scene and face shots and little with duologue, although what there is keeps it even more interesting. It is more than a little bizarre but if you liked Fargo, the Getaway (1972), Pulp Fiction, Collateral or Ghost Dog (same writer/director), you should like this one. I know I was quite pleasantly surprised at its craft, featuring Johnny Depp.
 
Never saw Deadman, but will add it to my list. I like anything with Depp, and its pedigree makes it worth a look. Thanks for the tip!!
 
Now that I think about it, another great Noir is Mullholland Falls, with Nick Nolte. Based on the famous LAPD "Hat Squad" with an overall dark and fascinating plot.

A classic Noir you may have missed is Where the Sidewalk Ends, with Dana Andrews as a cop gone wrong. An Otto Preminger film, so it has to be good.

Not exactly Noir, but still a great gangster movie, is Public Enemies, with Johnny Depp as Dillinger (Fantastic protrayal!!) and Christian Bale as Melvin Purvis.

I love this stuff!
 
PJDeluhery said:
Now that I think about it, another great Noir is Mullholland Falls, with Nick Nolte. Based on the famous LAPD "Hat Squad" with an overall dark and fascinating plot.

A classic Noir you may have missed is Where the Sidewalk Ends, with Dana Andrews as a cop gone wrong. An Otto Preminger film, so it has to be good.

Not exactly Noir, but still a great gangster movie, is Public Enemies, with Johnny Depp as Dillinger (Fantastic protrayal!!) and Christian Bale as Melvin Purvis.

I love this stuff!
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Ah yes Mullhalland Falls is another good one. Thanks for mentioning Where the Sidewalk Ends, I always liked Andrews so I will add that to my list. I also loved Depp in P E, Bale, not so much.
 
PJDeluhery said:
Now that I think about it, another great Noir is Mullholland Falls, with Nick Nolte. Based on the famous LAPD "Hat Squad" with an overall dark and fascinating plot.

A classic Noir you may have missed is Where the Sidewalk Ends, with Dana Andrews as a cop gone wrong. An Otto Preminger film, so it has to be good.

Not exactly Noir, but still a great gangster movie, is Public Enemies, with Johnny Depp as Dillinger (Fantastic protrayal!!) and Christian Bale as Melvin Purvis.

I love this stuff!
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Some great ones. Liked them all. As to Public Enemies, I also really liked Stephen Lang's portrayal of Charles Winstead. A very menacing background presence who got the closing scene and a good one it was. -- Al
 
The Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
and two in color
The Ipcress File
China Town
 
Denver said:
The Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
and two in color
The Ipcress File
China Town
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All classics there. I never thought of the Ipcress File as noire but I suppose it could be. Anyway I really like it and watch it again routinely.
 
BTW, Denver your post inspired me to watch the Blu-ray restored version of Ipcress last night. It was as enjoyable as ever and the restoration is first rate. Thanks much for the reminder.:cool:
 
I thought of another film that was really good and dark, but don't know if it fits in "noir". How about "Seven" with Pitt and Freeman? A really well done show with outstanding performances. -- Al
 
Lancer...

Excellent film how about modern noir? I certainly think it would fit. Now you have mentioned that I may have to watch it again. I think I would have shot him also
Mitch
 
Mitch said:
Lancer...

Excellent film how about modern noir? I certainly think it would fit. Now you have mentioned that I may have to watch it again. I think I would have shot him also
Mitch
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Agreed, Mitch. Would have emptied the gun and reloaded just to make sure he wasn't faking.:eek: -- Al
 
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