Baseball 2012 (1 Viewer)

[theBaron]

Kind of been following this story. Lee has 11 starts, 7 quality, with a team low 3.24 ERA among the starters, and he has exactly ZERO wins. His record is 0-3. Snakebit is right. How do you figure this? Unbelievable.{eek3} -- Al

As far as the lack of run support goes, last season, it was Hamels who was Bad Luck Schleprock. And before him, it was Jamie Moyer, and not just with the Phillies, but over much of his career. Funny the way that goes in baseball.

Prost!
Brad

 

[lancer]

Hi Brad. The Met's Dickey sure put the O's to sleep last night. His second 1 hit shutout in a row. I think ESPN said it's been 24 years since that has happened. I've watched Dickey a few times now and he is really on his game. Got his ERA down to 2.00, 13 quality starts out of 14, more than a strikeout per inning, and most amazingly, for a knuckleball pitcher, only 21 walks in 99 innings. Can anyone say 'Cy Young award winner'? This guy is really kind of out of nowhere, having only a 41-50 lifetime record prior to this season. At this rate, he could better Guidry's 1978 25-3 season. Kind of a nice change of pace to see a pitcher win games and not have to throw 100 mph. -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

Al,

He's actually been with the Mets for a couple of years and actually got his first start against the Nats. This year he's having an amazing year because he's doing things that haven't been done with the knuckler before. He can make the ball go up, which seems to be contrary to what it normally does and he can change speeds on it. Many times with knucklers you don't know where it's going but he seems to have gained a mastery of it. He only had one bad start this year against the Braves and that was because it was raining.

I had read that his consecutive one hitters was the first time since Dave Steib did it since 1988 and the first time in the NL since 1944. I didn't see last night's game but his game against the Rays last week could easily have been a no-hitter. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets one this year, if he continues his success.

I could see him starting the All Star game although Strasburg is the sexier choice. If he wins 20 games, it will be the first time for the Mets since Frankie Viola did it in the 90s.

 

[sammy719]

Dare I say it Al, but our O's righted the ship and are playing some great ball!! to the tune of the 4th best record in baseball, pitching, good hitting, relief pitching are all doing well, yea I know, it's late June but I have been saying that same line now for 3 months in a row!! come on O's keep on rollin...Sammy

See Al, as soon as I posted this positive little comment we lose the very next nite it's the Treefrog Lounge curse!! I should know better then posting anything positive about the O's...Sammy

 

[lancer]

Ouch! Our local teams, the O's and Nats, aren't having a good time against the teams from NY. First the NYY's sweep the Nats in DC, and now the Mets have shutout the O's two games in a row. At least the O's have one more shot at the Mets tonight, so maybe they can salvage the local honor.:rolleyes2: -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

Mets can only do it in sweeps. In the last four series they have been swept or do the sweeping: sweep by Yanks, sweep the Rays, swept by the Reds and sweep the Orioles. Hard team to figure out.

 

[lancer]

Mets can only do it in sweeps. In the last four series they have been swept or do the sweeping: sweep by Yanks, sweep the Rays, swept by the Reds and sweep the Orioles. Hard team to figure out.

They may be hard to figure out, but I was impressed by the starting pitchers in the O's series. O's hadn't been silenced like that all season. No wonder the Mets are doing better than the critics thought they would. -- Al

 

[lancer]

The Nats have just wrapped up the most brutal part of their season, so far, having played 32 straight games against the AL and NL East. When the stretch started, the feeling was that a .500 record would have been doing well, but the Nats went 18-14 against the best baseball has to offer, division wise. They finished the stretch with a 3.5 game lead in the NL East. This team is a legitimate contender. Their pitching continues to be the best in baseball, being the only staff with a sub-3.00 ERA. Four of starters have a sub-3.00 ERA, as well, and the fifth starter's ERA is 3.09. If this continues, the Nats will only get better as their hitting can only improve with the return of Morse and emergence of Harper. Zimmerman is still struggling, apparently with a bad shoulder that effects his swing but not his defense. The future looks bright for the Nats, given the current state of the team. They no longer will be sneaking up on teams, though.:wink2:^&grin -- Al

 

[lancer]

It took them 73 games, but the NYY's own the best record in MLB, while the Nats own the best record in the NL. -- Al

 

[Warrior]

It took them 73 games, but the NYY's own the best record in MLB.....................

Awesome news, thanks for making my morning.

Also saw CC is going on the DL with a groin strain, he felt it during warm ups prior to his last start but pitched away.

What a warrior.

Speaking of the Yankees, read a great on line article of an interview of Derek Lowe, who pitched in game 7 of the 2004 ALCS on two days rest; seems the Yankee clubhouse people "lost" his cleats prior to the game.

He did not have a second pair on hand, so they sent a Red Sox clubhouse kid with cash in hand to a Sports Authority store, where he bought a pair of cleats off the rack that Derek wore in that game.

He threw a one hitter over 6 innings with off the shelf store bought cleats.

Wow.

The more I see and hear about the 2004 ALCS, the more amazing of a story that becomes.

Sort of like game 6 of the 1986 world series.

Only in reverse.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled programing.........................

 

[Warrior]

Awesome news, thanks for making my morning.

Also saw CC is going on the DL with a groin strain, he felt it during warm ups prior to his last start but pitched away.

What a warrior.

Speaking of the Yankees, read a great on line article of an interview of Derek Lowe, who pitched in game 7 of the 2004 ALCS on two days rest; seems the Yankee clubhouse people "lost" his cleats prior to the game.

He did not have a second pair on hand, so they sent a Red Sox clubhouse kid with cash in hand to a Sports Authority store, where he bought a pair of cleats off the rack that Derek wore in that game.

He threw a one hitter over 6 innings with off the shelf store bought cleats.

Wow.

The more I see and hear about the 2004 ALCS, the more amazing of a story that becomes.

Sort of like game 6 of the 1986 world series.

Only in reverse.

Ok, back to your regularly scheduled programing.........................

And on the same day Sherman Klump goes on the DL, so does Pettitte with a fractured ankle, he's out 6 weeks, figure two months after rehab.

But have no fear, Freddie Garcia and his 42 MPH fastball will step into the breach and all will be well in Yankee land.

Or maybe you can talk Catfish Hunter out of retirement........

 

[lancer]

And on the same day Sherman Klump goes on the DL, so does Pettitte with a fractured ankle, he's out 6 weeks, figure two months after rehab.

But have no fear, Freddie Garcia and his 42 MPH fastball will step into the breach and all will be well in Yankee land.

Or maybe you can talk Catfish Hunter out of retirement........

Come on, George. The answer to this is obvious. The Yanks just lost two lefties. I'm sure Gator Guidry and Whitey will be getting the call. Actually, I know where the Yanks can find a good, junkballing lefthanded vet. They need to call the Nats. :wink2: -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

Mets lose two in a row to lowly Cubs (worst record in MLB), 6-1 and 5-3 and then storm back to beat them 17-1. Hello, we could have used some of those runs in the last two days

 

[Warrior]

Come on, George. The answer to this is obvious. The Yanks just lost two lefties. I'm sure Gator Guidry and Whitey will be getting the call. Actually, I know where the Yanks can find a good, junkballing lefthanded vet. They need to call the Nats. :wink2: -- Al

I heard the Orioles released Jamie Moyer; he's what, 82 years old, the Yankees should grab him because if they do, he'll be lights out for them, just like every scrub they pick up; Martin, Garcia, Colon, Chavez, everytime they pick up some scrub, he throws on the pinestripes and is reborn.

 

[lancer]

I heard the Orioles released Jamie Moyer; he's what, 82 years old, the Yankees should grab him because if they do, he'll be lights out for them, just like every scrub they pick up; Martin, Garcia, Colon, Chavez, everytime they pick up some scrub, he throws on the pinestripes and is reborn.

Yeah, I forgot about Moyer. I was referring to John Lannan, who is languishing in the minors (and none too happy), because the Nats have too many starters. Lannan was the staff ace, as it were, for the Nats from 2008 thru 2011. He is only 27 and would make someone a great #3 but the Nats are letting him rot in the minors as an insurance policy against injury or whatever. Lost out to the numbers game in spring training because he doesn't throw 95 mph, but he is a hidden gem for someone. -- Al

 

[lancer]

The O's have sprung a bit of a leak. Getting pounded by the Angels for the second game in a row and will be 5 backof the NYY's in another inning. The culprit is a sudden slump in the hitting/scoring and the continued weakness of the 3-4-5 starting pitchers. The 3 and 4 starters (Arrieta and Matusz) are a combined 2-12 in their last 14 decisions. They are not getting the job done and, as the record indicates, they haven't pitched well at all, with one or two exceptions. Now the hitting is taking a break as well. The O's are now 3-6 in their last 9 games and have only scored 14 runs in that stretch. But, as I keep saying, the starting pitching is what needs attention and pretty soon or the O's are going to keep losing ground. Two effective starting pitchers will not cut it in the AL East. -- Al

 

[Warrior]

Yeah, I forgot about Moyer. I was referring to John Lannan, who is languishing in the minors (and none too happy), because the Nats have too many starters. Lannan was the staff ace, as it were, for the Nats from 2008 thru 2011. He is only 27 and would make someone a great #3 but the Nats are letting him rot in the minors as an insurance policy against injury or whatever. Lost out to the numbers game in spring training because he doesn't throw 95 mph, but he is a hidden gem for someone. -- Al

Fear not Al, I'm sure Theo will send either Dempster or Garza (or both) to the NYY for two bags of balls, four bats and a bag of skittles............speaking of which, boy wonder that he is has done wonders with the Cubs now hasn't he?

 

[Warrior]

The O's have sprung a bit of a leak. Getting pounded by the Angels for the second game in a row and will be 5 backof the NYY's in another inning. The culprit is a sudden slump in the hitting/scoring and the continued weakness of the 3-4-5 starting pitchers. The 3 and 4 starters (Arrieta and Matusz) are a combined 2-12 in their last 14 decisions. They are not getting the job done and, as the record indicates, they haven't pitched well at all, with one or two exceptions. Now the hitting is taking a break as well. The O's are now 3-6 in their last 9 games and have only scored 14 runs in that stretch. But, as I keep saying, the starting pitching is what needs attention and pretty soon or the O's are going to keep losing ground. Two effective starting pitchers will not cut it in the AL East. -- Al

The best part about baseball is it's not a sprint but a marathon, every team has peaks and valleys, it's just a question of how you bounce back from the valleys.

The O's have a RS/RA of -12, the Red Sox RS/RA is +63, yet the Sox sit two games behind Baltimore.............

 

[lancer]

Fear not Al, I'm sure Theo will send either Dempster or Garza (or both) to the NYY for two bags of balls, four bats and a bag of skittles............speaking of which, boy wonder that he is has done wonders with the Cubs now hasn't he?

LOL. I would expect that some such move will be made. I heard Greinke is on the block too, but he didn't want to go to NY when he was a free agent. I think the Cubs have turned out to be a bigger challenge than Theo might have been prepared for.:rolleyes2: Cubs are at the point where they need to push the plunger and start over. You must be pretty happy with the way Boston has hung in after their slow start. They keep winning and staying within range, exhibiting a great 'never say die' spirit. As to the O's record with their negative run differential, I would credit that to their bull-pen, which has been the best in baseball, so far. Long way to go, though. -- Al

 

[Warrior]

You must be pretty happy with the way Boston has hung in after their slow start. They keep winning and staying within range.....................

I'm shocked actually, pretty amazing what they have done without 2/3rd's of their starting outfield and no closer; the bullpen, much like Baltimores, has pretty much been lights out and Crawford, Ellsbury and Bailey are all due to return shortly, not sure where they'll end up, I just want to be entertained until football starts.

The Angels, after a slow start, have gotten their act together, so the other wild card team will come from the East, not sure if Boston has the horses to get past both Tampa and Baltimore to grab the other slot, we'll see..............