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Yes sir. Orioles Park at Camden Yards is the daddy of the new, more intimate ball park craze that we are in the middle of. Several current ball parks were unabashedly 'copied' from Camden Yards. It is a fantastic venue to watch baseball and just enjoy the whole big league experience. Now, all Baltimore has to do is put a professional product on the field for the fans to enjoy.:rolleyes2: -- Al
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Just saw on the team website that the Cardinals have named former catcher Mike Matheny as their new manager. He played 13 seasons overall in the bigs, with 5 of them for St. Louis. He is reported to be a well-respected figure within the organization, but I'm still a little surprised. He was the only cantidate with no managerial experience of the six who interviewed. Not even a minor league stint as manager......
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think being the GM's 'special assistant' helped Matheny's case a little bit.
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Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think being the GM's 'special assistant' helped Matheny's case a little bit.
Noah
I'm a lot surprised by this choice. It's a real leap of faith to hand a WS Champion team over to a manager with no managerial experience. I wonder if this will influence what Pujols chooses to do? -- AlJust saw on the team website that the Cardinals have named former catcher Mike Matheny as their new manager. He played 13 seasons overall in the bigs, with 5 of them for St. Louis. He is reported to be a well-respected figure within the organization, but I'm still a little surprised. He was the only cantidate with no managerial experience of the six who interviewed. Not even a minor league stint as manager......
Will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think being the GM's 'special assistant' helped Matheny's case a little bit.
Noah
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That's the $64,000 question Al. Since Mathney and Pujols played together for five seasons, you know Albert is familiar with the new manager, at least from a player's stand point.
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Hi Noah. From what the paper here reported, it sounds like the Matheny hire is a real popular move amongst the players, some of who apparently urged the front office to pick Matheny. Could be Pujols was one of them as they are friends. At any rate, it would be nice to see a player like Pujols stay with his team instead of bolting for another year guarentee and a few jillion more dollars. Can't imagine Pujols wearing another uniform any more than I could have seen Ripken in one. -- Al
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Hey Al. Yeah, the more I see about it, it does appear that the players wanted Matheny over some of the other choices. Could be partly cause he is such a good baseball mind and partly because some of the guys remember playing with him and are seeking the same clubhouse presence.
Of course, in regards to Albert, I hope he stays. As you say, Pujols is in the situation where, like Ripken, a fan can only picture the guy in one uniform!
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I have seen in the last week where both the Marlins and the Orioles are trotting out new uniforms for the 2012 season. The bright orange jerseys of the O's are certainly noticeable, along with the 'throwback' Oriole character emblem. Was there a lot of fan input or desire to go back to this older style emblem?
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Noah, your post is the first I've heard of it. I doubt fan input was involved. It sounds hideous. I never liked any of the orange unis worn by the Orioles, or that cartoon bird head emblem, for that matter. The black hat with the 'normal' Oriole on it is the winner for me, with the normal home whites and road grays with the apropriate trim. All that orange hurts my old eyes.
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Hey Al. I just saw it earlier this morning on Yahoo Sports. Here is the link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...d-makes-triumphant-return-to-?urn=mlb-wp26964
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...d-makes-triumphant-return-to-?urn=mlb-wp26964
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Thanks for the link, Noah. That is what I was afraid of, they are hideous. I might be stuck looking at that stupid bird head on that stupid multi-color hat, but at least I can kill the color on the TV when the team wears that orange jersey. Aw, the nostalgia of it all. Cartoon unis and B/W TV.{sm2}
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Thanks for the link, Noah. That is what I was afraid of, they are hideous. I might be stuck looking at that stupid bird head on that stupid multi-color hat, but at least I can kill the color on the TV when the team wears that orange jersey. Aw, the nostalgia of it all. Cartoon unis and B/W TV.{sm2}
Sorry Al, but as you say, they are bad. I didn't want to 'hate' on another team's uniforms right off, so that is why I asked if fans were requesting this change. Don't teams, like corporations, do focus groups for stuff like this?^&grin If not, they should!
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Brad, my memory isn't sharp enough to recall when that cartoon bird head came into use, so I looked it up. I know that the early hats had an Oriole bird in orange outlined thread on the hats up thru 1965. Evidently, they went to the cartoon bird head on the cap in their championship year of 1966 and kept it in one form or another until 1988. They then changed to the realistic bird on the hat in 1989 (when I bought my Oriole cap that I wear to this day). Guess my 22 year old cap is now a collector's item.:rolleyes2: -- Al
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Thanks for the link, Noah. That is what I was afraid of, they are hideous. I might be stuck looking at that stupid bird head on that stupid multi-color hat, but at least I can kill the color on the TV when the team wears that orange jersey. Aw, the nostalgia of it all. Cartoon unis and B/W TV.{sm2}
I sympathize with you, Al. I hated the Phillies' New Era uniforms, absolutely hated them, with that stupid, ugly sperm-P logo. It got even worse after the second season, when they switched the road greys for powder blue, because it looked better on color TV (you have to be vintage like me, to remember a time when black-and-white was still very common, and color was a selling point). Absolutely ugly.
I hated the Vet, too. Big, ugly, impersonal concrete O, with its AstroTurf, and those uncomfortable seats. Event as a kid of 8, 9, 10 years, I knew that it wasn't right. What's even tougher is that those uniforms, and that ugly, ugly park, are bound up with the great World Series victory in 1980, and can't be separated.
I got to see a Phils-Cardinals game with my dad at Connie Mack Stadium that last season, and it still sticks with me, and I remember today how it looked, and felt and sounded, when I go to Citizens Bank Park, or to Reading's cozy Double-AA park.
And when the Phils reintroduced the look of the Whiz Kids' uniform, with the "retro" look, in '92, I was thrilled. That is a baseball uniform. Just like the Yankees--much as I hate 'em, and hate to say it, I have to give them credit, their pinstripes convey tradition and taste.
Speaking of bird team mascots, a little trivia--the Phillies were officially known as the Blue Jays, back in the doldrums of World War II baseball, from'43 through '48. Owner Bob Carpenter, Jr, tried to shake up the image, after taking over the team from disgraced owner William Cox, held a contest for the fans to pick a new nickname, and the winning choice was "Blue Jays". But no one was fooled, and in '48, the team officially went back to "Phillies" (short for "Philadelphians", by the way). The "Blue Jay" nickname was thus available when the Toronto expansion club was added in 1977.
Prost!
Brad
Brad, as bad as those unis were, and the new O's will be, at least they don't approach the White Sox softball unis with the shorts and big, floppy collars. Those unis were a disgrace to the human race.
-- Al