Britains Early Hollow Cast (2 Viewers)

[vandilay]

a few more imperial sets

 

[vandilay]

a last couple

 

[vandilay]

Hi Again Guys,

Here's a picture of the small band of Hollow Cast Vintage Troopers guarding their General.

Dave

Nice group Dave ,its amazing any of these old lead figures survived considering the beatings they must have taken.

 

[aujj65]

I must say that those Imperial sets are quite something!

Thanks for sharing.

Jeff

 

[hhenry]

Awesome job. A good place to get Britains recasts if you're in the U.S is London Bridge Collector's Toys. If I knew how, I'd provide a link. They have a website.

Check London Bridge Collector's Toys

Awesome to see some old figures photos posted. Once I'm able to unpack some of my collection and ship the rest here to my new home, I can post also. Unfortunately, it may be a while.

Dave, You are right that the Field Marshal is from set 201. This set was produced pre- and post-war.

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Hugh,

Thanks for the confirmation on the Field Marshall set number. I was wondering are there any markings on the figure that would enable me to ID it to a particular year or pre/post war?

As for the Imperial sets I love them and with I had more...

All the best

Dave

 

[hhenry]

Dave,

Probably by the Britains copyright description on the belly of the horse. The wording/display used to change over the years, but I'm not an expert, so can't say. I know that it was produced in the 1950s and I think into the 60s. I have a post-war set, easily identified since its in a post-war "Regiment of All Nations" box instead of a pre-war Whistock style box.

 

[wadepat]

Hi Hugh,

Thanks for the confirmation on the Field Marshall set number. I was wondering are there any markings on the figure that would enable me to ID it to a particular year or pre/post war?

As for the Imperial sets I love them and with I had more...

All the best

Dave

Dave,

Probably by the Britains copyright description on the belly of the horse. The wording/display used to change over the years, but I'm not an expert, so can't say. I know that it was produced in the 1950s and I think into the 60s. I have a post-war set, easily identified since its in a post-war "Regiment of All Nations" box instead of a pre-war Whistock style box.

Dave and Hugh,

I have one small concern about the identity of this figure. Do either of you have a copy of O'Brien's Collecting Foreign Made Toy Soldiers, 1997 edition? If you look on page 56, you will find a black and white picture of the Britains #201, postwar figure. If you have access to this picture, examine the position of the arms. The arms are clearly held at right angles to the figure's body and the binoculars are held at approximately waist level. Dave's figure shows the forearms in a more angled, elevated position with the binoculars held closer to chest level. It is a small difference, but a noticable one.

Having stated the above, I do know that O'Brien's guide has mistakes in it. Further, I have no idea if the difference in arm position is anything about which to be concerned. I just thought I should point out the difference that I noticed. Whatever the case, the figure is still a great one!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Pat,

I dont have a copy of that book but I have heard of it. I will tell you that the horse has what appear to be the correct Britains marks on its belly so I dont think its a fake however I do think it may be from post war 1950-1960s production be cause of the way the arms are attached. I am still doing some research and will let you all know if I find out anything significant. These points not withstanding I still am very happy to picked him up,plus you know me Pat it was a really good price

All the best

Dave

 

[wadepat]

Hi Pat,

I dont have a copy of that book but I have heard of it. I will tell you that the horse has what appear to be the correct Britains marks on its belly so I dont think its a fake however I do think it may be from post war 1950-1960s production be cause of the way the arms are attached. I am still doing some research and will let you all know if I find out anything significant. These points not withstanding I still am very happy to picked him up,plus you know me Pat it was a really good price

All the best

Dave

Hi Dave,

I was not suggesting that the piece was a fake. I was only puzzled at the difference in the position of the arms. I will be interested in your observations about the way in which the arms are attached. If the arms were attached in a different manner than those in O'Brien's picture, then that might explain the difference in arm positions. Wow! Sometimes this hobby gets entirely too detailed for this old man!

Oh! And, about the price you paid for the figure? I have no doubt, Half-Price Dave, that you got it for an excellent price!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Pat,

I found a picture in the WBritains Collectors Club magazine The Standard of a Field Marshal from set 201 and his arms and paint look the same to me so I think its a good one its just trying to narrow down the period of manufacture. I will see if I can find any other marks on it that will help clear up the mystery about this figure. The arms appear to plug in to sockets sort of like the old swoppets would go together excet these are lead. Its really interesting to look at these older figures and see how the technology of toy soldier manufacturing has evolved.

All the best

Dave

 

[wadepat]

Hi Pat,

I found a picture in the WBritains Collectors Club magazine The Standard of a Field Marshal from set 201 and his arms and paint look the same to me so I think its a good one its just trying to narrow down the period of manufacture. I will see if I can find any other marks on it that will help clear up the mystery about this figure.

All the best

Dave

Dave,

If the picture in The Standard matches your figure, I would say there is no mystery remaining. Unless, of course, you think it might be of prewar manufacture. O'Brien's Guide is the best available for identifing figures of various makers, but it is far from perfect. I would trust the information in The Standard.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Pat,

Glad to see you are still awake although its pretty late there. I am glad to get your advice on these issues I too have found that a lot of the books out there seem to have many inaccuracies and make the sorting out a lot more difficult, thats why I prefer to work with original cataloges from the various companies out there which leads me to my next point...

I sent an email to the folks over at Marlborough with a couple of questions about a month ago and received a really great responce from them promising a cataloge and low and behold what appears in my mail box the othere day but a complete color cataloge of their Durbar offerings! Its really nice and has a price list so I now know what it will set me back when I decide to get it straight from them. So this has motivated me even more to get the software fixed so you and Kilted Vampire can view the Durbar cataloge I compiled for WBritains it is looking good for Monday if the guy I need to talk to is in his office.

Anyway I will probably see if can get cataloges from Nicholsons and WHocker also they are just about the best way to get to the bottom of what is what when you are doing research into things like the Durbar because it is such a speciallized field and there arent too many folks making sets for it.

Talk to you later

All the best

Dave

 

[wadepat]

Hi Pat,

Glad to see you are still awake although its pretty late there. I am glad to get your advice on these issues I too have found that a lot of the books out there seem to have many inaccuracies and make the sorting out a lot more difficult, thats why I prefer to work with original cataloges from the various companies out there which leads me to my next point...

I sent an email to the folks over at Marlborough with a couple of questions about a month ago and received a really great responce from them promising a cataloge and low and behold what appears in my mail box the othere day but a complete color cataloge of their Durbar offerings! Its really nice and has a price list so I now know what it will set me back when I decide to get it straight from them. So this has motivated me even more to get the software fixed so you and Kilted Vampire can view the Durbar cataloge I compiled for WBritains it is looking good for Monday if the guy I need to talk to is in his office.

Anyway I will probably see if can get cataloges from Nicholsons and WHocker also they are just about the best way to get to the bottom of what is what when you are doing research into things like the Durbar because it is such a speciallized field and there arent too many folks making sets for it.

Talk to you later

All the best

Dave

Hi Dave,

Yes, I was up way too late last night. It took me forever to read all the posts that appeared on the forum.

The people at Marlborough are really nice. I also e-mailed them a week or ten days ago. I asked a specific question and within 24 hours, Brian provided me with an answer. Two days later, Brian sent me a follow-up e-mail in which he inquired concerning the helpfulness of his answer. I was very, very impressed with his interest in me and his interest in providing me with good service.

Now, if I had only thought to ask him for a catalog............

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Pat,

I have to say that the folks over at Marlborough are really nice also and Brian did the same for me he sent me an email much the same and has answered questions in the past and offered to send a repair part once which I will probably take him up on when I make an order from him which will be this summer. He has a set of soldiers The Nawanger Regiment which is 3 sets of soldiers one at Slope Arms the Colour Party and the 12 piece band which I would really like to add to my already huge display and since I have never seen them anywhere but the cataloge I will probably go ahead and drop the $400 bucks to get them. Unless of course there is a really wild stroke of luck on ebay, but we both know that nearly never happens...

All the best

Dave

 

[wadepat]

Hi Pat,

I have to say that the folks over at Marlborough are really nice also and Brian did the same for me he sent me an email much the same and has answered questions in the past and offered to send a repair part once which I will probably take him up on when I make an order from him which will be this summer. He has a set of soldiers The Nawanger Regiment which is 3 sets of soldiers one at Slope Arms the Colour Party and the 12 piece band which I would really like to add to my already huge display and since I have never seen them anywhere but the cataloge I will probably go ahead and drop the $400 bucks to get them. Unless of course there is a really wild stroke of luck on ebay, but we both know that nearly never happens...

All the best

Dave

Dave,

One of these days, I must find a way to Washington and see your Durbar collection up close and personal! The Nawanger Regiment would be an awesone addition! I would love to see you add it to the rest of your goodies.

However, I have one thought about your proposed purchase. I don't wish to cause you any anxiety, you understand. But,...THAT $400 COULD PURCHASE YOU A BEAU GESTE ELEPHANT!

Yes, the Nawanger Regiment would be nice.

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Pat, Pat, Pat


Thanks Thats just what I need a little glittler to make me loose my focus...

Just when I was feeling really good about the latest acquisition you had to mention the Beau Geste Elephants and muddy up the water.

I think I'll try some zen here focus grasshopper focus! Nope its too late he said Beau Geste...

All the best

Dave

 

[wadepat]

Pat, Pat, Pat


Thanks Thats just what I need a little glittler to make me loose my focus.

Just when I was feeling really good about the latest acquisition you had to mention the Beau Geste Elephants and muddy up the water.

I think I'll try some zen here focus grasshopper focus! Nope its too late he said Beau Geste...

All the best

Dave

Dave,




I couldn't resist the opportunity to "enhance your pleasure" concerning your new acquisition! After all, what are friends for?

Enjoy your new Elephant to the max!

Warmest personal regards,

Pat

 

[DMNamiot]

Hi Pat,

I will do exactly as you suggest, enjoy the elephant .

I have to say its always fun to laugh and joke around on this site with you and the other Britains collectors. Hope you have a great day and find something cool.

Talk to you later.

All the best

Dave

 

[jrsteel]

Here's a picture of The 13th Lancers,1940's Production.Picture not too great. I'm trying.