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trooper said:
Dudley Doright is a cartoon mountie, very correct and upright, a bit like Fraser in "Due South", which IMO was one of the best programmes on TV in recent years. Trooper
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I loved that show. :cool: Because of Deafon Baker, my kids are getting an Alaskan Malemute as soon as the local breeder has a litter.;)
 
Louis Badolato said:
I loved that show. :cool: Because of Deafon Baker, my kids are getting an Alaskan Malemute as soon as the local breeder has a litter.;)
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There were several dogs used in that show. I liked the one with blue eyes.

Johnny, here is another photo for your files. This one shows the drummers of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Interesting in that it shows the drummers of the pipes and drums wearing the fly plaid and using the normal side drum while the band side drummer carries the narrow rod tension drum and wears the full plais. Note also that he does not have the drummers lace on the seams of his arms. If you recall the photo I posted showing the bass drummer of the 2nd Btn wearing a tigerskin, this was peculiar to the 2nd as the 1st wore a normal leopardskin. This forum could do with a uniform section where things like this could be posted, but I doubt if it will ever materialise. Trooper
 

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Hi trooper, thanks for the latest photo. Photos like this are really a Godsend for people trying for a complex group of figures at any point in history - for a number of reasons. When trying to source castings, for example, it is not always possible to obtain EXACTLY what you would like. What these photos show, is that there are a number of permutations possible for what (say) a drummer could be wearing at any moment in time, depending upon where he would have played,what instrument used, what section he belonged to, what battalion he was in - or even just what the Colonel specified on that day!

So, when I go get my castings for the Gordons c.1879 - If I want the drummer to wear a fly-plaid - BUT- I can only obtain a drummer with the full plaid - then I can say, that's what the Colonel specified for that particular parade! Good news!

I will give my whole proposed layout a great deal of thought though - and try and match what I want - with what is around. So, many thanks for this latest photo. Every piece you have sent me is priceless stuff, so thankyou for them

As regards a uniform section for the forum - what a really good idea. At present, it looks like you're it! An archive section would also be good for a number of other items. Weapons and fighting vehicles spring immediately to mind.

For me, and others interested in Military Bands, musical instruments used over time by such bands might be another category. I really wanted some Sousaphones in my collection - so looked around - but could find no evidence of use in the British Army. Thinking laterally - I thought about Commonwealth countries - and then found a pic of a guy dresed in the tunic of the forefathers of the present day RCMP. Light bulb went on - and my 1930 Mounties got their men - playing Sousaphones. That took a while for me to get there. How easy would that have been - if we had some archive photos for that particular instrument, or that particular body of men.

Doubtless, people with other interests could think of many other specialist subjects. Depends upon your interest I suppose. Have suggestions like these already had an airing on the forum? Could be problematic if it needed a librarian - though perhaps it could be a bit like Wikipedia - where stuff just pours in from donors - and we - the forum members with specialist knowledge police it? Might work. Could we take this idea further via the moderators???

Just a thought. Thanks again for latest. johnnybach:)
 
Trooper - just had a closer look on the blown up picture of the AS Bass drummer - and noticed the date - 1881 - and the Bass drummer is wearing a leopardskin!
That could resolve another issue for me - as one problem I had was that the Gordons picture from you that I have been using as the basis for the proposed band - didn't have any apron on at all. I couldnt find a BD casting without one - so was thinking of having to adapt something else.

If I were to base the band on the Arglyle's, I could go with this figure.

You HAVE got me thinking again!
 
Hi trooper - me again.

Just double-checked with Bill Carman's book - and the military band HAS to be 1871 - as they changed from white to the red jacket after then. (in practice it was 1873 when they finally changed - and the white jacket ended). Do you think that a bit of "artistic licence" is allowed - and I could still have the Base Drummer in a leopardskin that early? jb
 
trooper said:
There were several dogs used in that show. I liked the one with blue eyes.

Johnny, here is another photo for your files. This one shows the drummers of the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders. Interesting in that it shows the drummers of the pipes and drums wearing the fly plaid and using the normal side drum while the band side drummer carries the narrow rod tension drum and wears the full plais. Note also that he does not have the drummers lace on the seams of his arms. If you recall the photo I posted showing the bass drummer of the 2nd Btn wearing a tigerskin, this was peculiar to the 2nd as the 1st wore a normal leopardskin. This forum could do with a uniform section where things like this could be posted, but I doubt if it will ever materialise. Trooper
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I agree with you about the uniform section but don't worry, I'll just keep pinching the photos I don't already have.:D

Martin
 
Back to the point of this thread though - painted castings. We return to the usual array of "odds and ends" which turn up in just about everyone's collection. I'm no different - and these are a few pics of some of mine.

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The Mounties appeared to have struck a chord with some - and on the right is an example of one in the saddle, for a change, with carbine. This is an example from Asset - and is also available carrying a lance with pennant.

The figure on the left is from Dorset Soldiers - and is reminiscent of an old Britains favourite. He isn't one though, as he has a cast in saddle girth - which the old hollowcast Britains never had.

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Next up are an assortment of Marines and one RN sailor - over the years. All figures are by Sarum Soldiers - alas - no longer available from them. The first figure on the left is an RMLI Sergeant Major, c.1855. Next is a Royal Marine dressed for overseas duty in China in 1900. The modern-day sailor from the 1990's is next with SA80 at the slope. A corporal RM Commando in 1944 carries a Thompson, whilst the last figure is a Falklands veteran carrying a Jimmpy (General Purpose Machine Gun).

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My odds and ends of Scots figures I have grouped next. The first three are again old Sarum Soldiers. From the left they are: Black Watch Highlander c.1900; An Ensign of the Gordon Highlanders at Waterloo, 1815: A Black Watch Lewis Gunner from WW1, with weapon, wearing an apron over his kilt, around 1917. Next comes a Gordon's soldier from 1833. This is another figure sculpted by martin Tabony originally provided by BMSS - so not available from them. Hopefully Martin can tell us all more about when and if these splendid figures may re-emerge one day? Next though, comes a simple one-piece casting of a Gordons Piper, dressed for active service abroad, c.1900 from Dorset Soldiers. Last is an Officer of the Caledonians (Scottish Rifles) in best parade dress around 1953, which is another Asset figure.

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This next pic is of two groups - all plastic kits these - and used as practice figures for painting - mounted on washers, to give them base-heavy weight. On the left are four WW2 Germans, kiited out for Normandy 1944 and carrying a variety of anti-tank and personal weapons.

To their right are four Russian snipers, in various forms of uniform and carrying an assortment of sniper tools of the trade. These groups are good fun to do from cheap plastic kits - and are excellent ways to practice before moving on to more expensive metal kits.

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Lastly - and cheapest of the lot - "What have the Romans ever done for Us?"
is the title I have given to these simple plastic soldiers you can buy ready made in packets. Again, very easy to practice on - and - mounted on washers, cheap enough for the kids to play with.

That just about cleans me out of things left to photograph - and doubles up as a convenient way to end for today. The added bonus for me of doing all of this photo work - is that I now have a photographic record of all of my collection - and so you have seen the lot.

What began as a discussion with Obee about providers of castings for collectors to paint for themselves, has shown that there are still plenty out there. What I hope that I have shown, is that it is perfectly possible to build up a reasonable collection of figures for a comparatively modest amount of money - and have a bucket-load of fun and enjoyment along the way. Thanks for giving me the opportunity of showing you "my lads". :D

Regards, johnnybach
 
Ooops - sorry 'bout that. A last browse around the shelves has unearthed two more small groups. Both from Asset Miniatures.

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These are five Kings Royal Rifle Corps c. 1914.


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These four are a Color Party of RMLI c. 1910

That's all folks johnnybach
 
Hi Jeff - Be still my beating heart - Literally with those Aztecs!

Two more interesting and slightly different companies there Jeff. We can certainly add them on to our growing list of companies who sell castings - often described as kits - when you put them together.

Incidentally, if ever you are unsure about whether a company who only advertise their products as "painted" actually do sell them in unpainted form - never be afraid to ask. The worst they can say is "No". As my experience with ATS demonstrates - many DO - even though they don't advertise this.
 
Trooper _ I have a question for you with reference to that photo you gave me of the Mountie in front of the cannon with Drum Major's mace. He is wearing two chevrons on his right arm. This makes me think that as a Mounted force - his title should really be "Corporal Major"" i.e,. he is in charge of discipline whilst marching in front of the band - but he is not, strictly speaking, the "Drum Major",
(as is the case for -say- our own Household cavalry), whilst marching on foot.

Anyone else out there - feel free to give your opinion. (e.g Martin?)

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This is the guy.

Also, on his right cuff - just above the gauntlet - he has a blue patch with a badge. Any idea what it is - and possibly a picture?

I am reproducing him for the band - and would like to do a good job on him - as he will stand out once the rest are finished - because he will be out there on his own.

Regards, johnnybach
 
Drum Major is not a rank, it is an appointment. In the same way that Company Sergeant Major is an appointment held by a person with the rank of Warrant Officer Class 2. Originaly he was incharge of the drummers of an infantry regiment.
In the Household Cavalry the rank sergeant is replaced by corporal. So Squadron Corporal Major is the equivalent to C.S.M. (I won't go into the history).
R.S.D.G. are the only regular cavalry with a drum major as they have full pipes and drums.

Martin
 
Okay Martin - thanks for that. So my Mountie toy soldier, who looks like the picture, is a Drum Major - even though that he is wearing the two chevrons of a corporal on his upper right arm?

Is that my correct interpretation? johnnybach.
 
Yes, he has the rank of corporal and the appointment as the drum major. As trooper has said a uniform section would be good. Wait until you get into Bugle Major, Sergeant Drummer and Band Sergeant Major!:D:D

Martin
 
Cheers! In fact three of them - Can't wait for all of those fancy titles/ appointments/ ranks to come along. Give me the Signals every time - no nonsense, three stripes your an effin sergeant - two and you ain't! Mind you we still had our own peculiarities with "Foreman of Sigs" and "Yeoman of Sigs" etc.

However, if we didn't have 'em - they would all be wearing khaki now - and we would have b****er all to Paint!

Thanks for resolving that little problem anyway Martin, I got there in the end! I just didn't want to stick the wrong label on his bum! johnnybach.:)
 
ohnny, couldn't find a picture clear enough to reproduce so have done a hasty sketch of the drum major's badge for the RCMP. Apologies for the indifferent quality. To explain, a crown surmounts a musician's lyre, below this a DM's mace crosses a DM's baldric, below this a rope tension drum. Hope this is clear. Trooper/I]
 

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johnnybach said:
Cheers! In fact three of them - Can't wait for all of those fancy titles/ appointments/ ranks to come along. Give me the Signals every time - no nonsense, three stripes your an effin sergeant - two and you ain't! Mind you we still had our own peculiarities with "Foreman of Sigs" and "Yeoman of Sigs" etc.

However, if we didn't have 'em - they would all be wearing khaki now - and we would have b****er all to Paint!

Thanks for resolving that little problem anyway Martin, I got there in the end! I just didn't want to stick the wrong label on his bum! johnnybach.:)
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The Royal Sigs band has a drum major! The three gold golden rules of a tank crewman = Nick it, paint it or fix it.:D:D

Martin
 
Wow - trooper - that's fantastic - thank you very much for that drawing - it's perfectly clear now. Shame a lot of it is covered by the gauntlet - or I would really have a go at that!

Martin has done his best to explain that this corporal IS a drum major. He also assures me that the Royal Signals has a drummie too. Though I must confess that despite 20 years of undetected crime within that organisation, in one form or another, our paths never crossed! Too busy getting my knees brown - and nicking everything that wasn't screwed down to make our kit work, I expect!
(and a lot of it that WAS screwed down too!). Trouble is - I love the ceremonial - but never saw any of it - perhaps that's why.

The cop in question is coming along nicely now though - thanks for all your help - from all of you. johnnybach.
 
The Royal Sigs indeed have a drum major, Johnny, here he is. Trooper
 

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Good Lord! Is that what our best bib and tucker looks like then? He looks like the clerk who works for the Doctor who deals with the naughty bits! (Can't say p** Drs Clark on here).

Well, thank gawd they didn't try to get me into that rig-out! Much preferred shorts, boots and rolled down socks - with maybe a floppy hat to keep the sun off the old noggin, any day.

What a twerp he looks. Much better if he wore blues with a white crash-helmet. Now, don't tell me - you've got a pic of that too.

Maybe I could do the band on motor-bikes. Hmmmmmmmm......

I was right when I said you must be sitting in the archives of some Military Museum. We don't need a uniform section - we have one. IT'S YOU

Nos da bach - jb
 
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